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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:51 PM
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Is genocide the goal?
They are now going city to city. They won't let aid workers in. Is this their way of ethnic cleansing? This article made me think that that's a possibility.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/nov2004/vet-n11.shtml

We actually left all of the humanitarian MRE’s in Kuwait,” he recalled. “We were supposed to give these out for relief, and we left them in Kuwait. They were just for show when the film crews came into the camps. We also had this big show with the medical supplies that we were prepping for Iraqi casualties. We were supposed to get in there and take care of them.

“But I’ll give you an example of what we actually did. After we shot up this car with civilians, I called in the corpsmen to bring in stretchers. They came in and put two men on stretchers. Five minutes later, they brought them back and dumped their bodies on the side of the road. They were still alive. They were riddled with bullets—one guy was just rolling in agony on the side of the road.”

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A recent study estimated the number of Iraqi deaths since the start of the war in March 2003 at around 100,000. When asked if this number seemed accurate, Massey responded:

“Yes, but that of course does not include the thousands more who will be dying from disease because of a lack of medical supplies, clean water, or proper sanitation. It does not include the hundreds of thousands that died in Iraq before the war even began from the sanctions. We are committing genocide in Iraq, and that is the intention.”



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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:52 PM
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1. Sure seems like a genocidal crusade, eh?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:52 PM
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2. it certainly seems that way.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:53 PM
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3. Clearly.
Wide spread war crimes. Not just at the individual level.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:54 PM
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4. They've been following the Hitler playbook so far
9-11 = Reichstag, emergency powere/Patriot act, Iraq = Poland.

Genocide would be the logical next step.
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wickywom Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:54 PM
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5. Liberation is the goal..
the genecide is just the process.
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:59 PM
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7. If liberation were the goal.........
wouldn't they be a little more concerned about the people they're liberating?
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wickywom Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:24 PM
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9. sarcasm.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:52 PM
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11. people? we're liberating the oil.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 02:58 PM
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6. They better start claiming that's the goal,
or else the whole campaign is a total loss. :crazy:
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:04 PM
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8. I think it's mostly accidental
I think there is some small truth that is part of the foundation of this war -- to kill Muslims. It is not the dominant one, or the one that people speak about officially, but we all know there is at least a thread of it in the fabric of this war.

Because there was never a clear "enemy" in this war, or target, or objective, or plan for success -- it has turned into genicide. It's going to be a regional war soon, and like it or not, it is Christians and Jews against Muslims. Everyone is going to get pulled into this. This is what we warned the war pigs against. Now, as more and more people turn against us, people who might NEVER have dreamed of taking up arms against Americans and killing us -- now have the burning desire to kill Americans and exact revenge.

They used to just hate us for supporting Israel and for supporting despotic regimes that repress them. Now they have the invasion and occupation and slaughter of Iraq -- which did NOT have plans to attack America -- to hate us for.

We have been dragged into an immoral war. As the "insurgency" spreads, it will become a genicide. I don't think it was fully intentional, although we know there are some who welcome the death of those who oppose Israel, and those who think this is the end of the world, and with each dead Muslim, we are that much closer to Jesus the Caped Crusader returning to earth and condemning Democrats to eternal damnation and rapturing them all to the big WalMart in the sky.

Sad thing is -- there are young men killing over there who have consciences and decency, who are obeying orders to slaughter people because their Commander in Chief tells them to. We will have a generation of young men as scarred as that of those who fought the immoral war in Viet Nam. Consequences will be felt for decades. But His Chimperial Majesty sleeps well at night, because he is absolutely devoid of morals and accountability and even a sliver of good sense.

The longer we allow it to continue, the worse it is going to get. It's not too late just quite yet, but boy oh boy, are we close to meltdown....
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:37 PM
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10. Well, I think OBL wants a Muslim vs. US showdown, and
I fear we are pretty far down the road to it. How many "terrorists" have we created this week in Fallujah alone?
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