I've had it with MSM!!!!!

[kuozzman]

I saw the headline and thought they actually wrote a descent article for once, but I was wrong...

In ATMs, Not Votes, We Trust

By Anne Applebaum
Wednesday, November 17, 2004; Page A27

(mid-article)
Two weeks after the election, the Internet rumor mill continues to spout stories of computer-stolen votes. No sooner are they disproved than others appear. Some are demanding an Ohio recount. Otherwise sober people are asking whether there can be smoke without fire. Last weekend the New York Times published an editorial that found "no evidence" of vote fraud but called electronic voting "a problem" all the same.

I hate how they pull that sneaky BS. Bloggers wrong, however, we should make some changes by 2008.

And when the fuck did NYT become such an expert in voting fraud?
I can't believe WP quoted them!
Isn't that libel or something? To say there is no evidence?

[DireStrike]

1. I know. "something is wrong and someone should fix it somehow."

What crap.

But don't worry, there was already an effort made... somewhere around here... to rebut this article.

[countmyvote4real]

2. Their masters have told them to ignore the truth.

Don't count on mainstream media anymore unless you want things filtered for the fascist state.

[eleonora]

3. huuuh, they haven't heard of what happened in Indiana??

The idiots. I give up.

[dbt]

4. The "Internet rumor mill" is driving a stake through the alleged heart

of the so-called Mainstream Media. And anybody who works at the level of, say, Assignment Desk knows this. The well-groomed airheads at the anchor desks are blissfully ignorant of it, as they believe whatever appears on the TelePrompTer.

Meanwhile, the Five Old White Men (whose grandchildren had to show them how to use a mouse) who control all media in this country are in fat denial, believing to their rotting souls that they have a LOCK on all information.

This is just what happened to the American automobile manufacturers in the late 1970s: a wise competitor slipped in and shot the wheels right out from under them.

:evilgrin:
dbt

[The Minus World]

5. Blame it on the Bloggers!

Seems to me that a vibrant, ever-changing, self-regulating environment where information can flow freely is probably the mainstream networks' worst nightmare in this situation.

Anyone with a computer and a couple of bucks can go online and inform themselves on just about any subject, and they don't have to slog through the incessant rabble of "Scott Peterson this," or "Michael Jackson that" to get to the core of the issues they're concerned with.

I believe the internet is making people aware of what a tremendous smoke-machine the mainstream media has become; billowing out distraction after distraction, disowning rational men from political thought. America's waking up much faster to the idea of theft in 2004 than it did in 2000.

[dmac]

6. I agree, however,

as long as the majority of Americans are still getting their news from the MSM, it is awfully easy for the MSM to totally discredit the Internet as a reliable source. Everyone I have told about what is going on with the vote recounts and the election results, says, yes, sure, but if there were really anything to it the mainstream press would be reporting on it. And double unfortunately, most of the people who really need to be reading what we are reading wouldn't dare - they see this type of information as psycho dribble. This is the most frustrating thing I have experienced in a long time. Some of my best friends, who are LIBERALS, for God's sake, offer little or no comment to the posts that I send them to try to keep them abreast of the situation. Being fairly new to this myself, have any of you found a way to deal with this lack of respect for the truth found here?

[The Minus World]

9. Unfortunately,

there is no universal approach.

Those who believe that this is forum for nothing more than "liberal whining" will never believe the strength and vigor our party can have. They have only seen us mischaracterized and belittled by right-wing media.

Those who believe that any speculation about something not yet proven,- regardless of mountainloads of evidence to believe the contrary - is a conspiracy theory, and many will shut it out of their minds long before it has a chance to make an impact.

Those apolitical ones who have not formed an opinion tend to be more skeptical than those who have already formed a divergent one, based on party lines. It's possible to reach those individuals, but many right-wingers are so far off in a self-gratification spiral that they refuse to be humbled by any force larger than themselves.

This is becoming more and more a struggle between the free-thinkers and the narrow-minds; the intelligent vs. the barbarians.

[SoCalDem]

7. Gee "they" loved the bloggers during the CBS memo flap.

Kill the messenger,,that's all it is..

[dmac]

10. Very good point. So it is only the left bloggers who have

no basis in reality. I see.

[HootieMcBoob]

8. The NY Times (Judith Miller) sure was right about those WMD

There will be a recount and I'm thankful for the work that BBV and all the other groups are doing.

I expected no less from the MSM, they're a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican party as far as I'm concerned - Keith Olberman being the only exception to that.

I'm furious with the Democratic party at this point. Unless I find out that they are doing something behind the scenes they may have lost me.

[dmac]

11. Me too. I am trying to keep the faith but they aren't giving us

much to hold on to. The little bits that come out are all derogatory and dismissive.