Wow! The Fundies are getting more and more arrogant

[Ishoutandscream]

They have seen the past election as a mandate on their faith and "morals." I see it with my co-workers, too. One just asked me (knowing I'm a Democrat) if I go to church, and when I replied "yes," asked if I were Catholic (I'm not, but down here, Catholics are pretty much considered "heathens" by our fundies).

Now I'm reading all of the news stories coming out. The cross dressing day here in Texas. Dobson lecturing Stephanopolis on being a Christian. Falwell dissing Dean, and restarting a new "Moral Majority." Etc., etc., etc.

All I can hope is that this will backlash against the Republican party. My father-in-law is your typical freeper type who is into militias and openly talks about a future war between whites and blacks in this nation (very Mansonesque). However, he hates religion, and doesn't like the fundies getting so involved in Republican politics. Maybe there are more freepers like my father-in-law who will bolt the party and start looking at even more radical political parties and candidates in the future.

I can hope, right?

[sandnsea]

1. The Constitution Party

Push him towards that one, wohoo, real nut cases. Nothing personal against your fil. We need to start having this info available, divide and conquer, that's what they do.

[BJ]

3. We can only hope so.

[Patiod]

4. I'm always relieved to listen to Christian radio

And hear them trashing Catholics and Mormons.

I don't want to think about a world where all three got along.

[lastliberalintexas]

12. What's different about what we have now?

A world where all 3 vote the same is just as bad as them actually getting along.

[shoelace414]

2. It's Moral correctness(tm) gone too far

[undergroundpanther]

6. OooOOh

"moral correctness"

Good one

Considsering all the SHIT some liberals got over"pc" Which was basicaly an attempt to demand that bullies racists and fundies develop a heart,learn civility, and to stop dehumanizing people and verbally abusing them.
There was a backlash of bullies playing victim to manipulate people and undermine the church/state barrier screaming about why can't they use the"n" word and call gay people abominations ,andf prominately display a washing machine sized hunk of granite with the ten commandments on a public courthous..ect.

The bullies don't want to be civil they want control.It'sa time we stopped thinking they are like us with the same motives.

Liberals don't want people to be abused

Freepers want to get away with abusing people, and do it without being told to not do it by people who are hurt by it or people who are defending people hurt by it.

Moral corrrectness has a nice ring. MC..Hehhehe..

[shoelace414]

8. I'm hoping it will catch on

[RaleighNCDUer]

18. "moral correctness"

I like it -- ties into many of our tried and true messages like, "hate is not a family value" and "war is not good for children and other living things".

Where is the moral correctness in hating the 'sinner' as well as the 'sin'? Where is the moral correctness in violating "thou shalt not kill", whether it is in war or death penalty?

We need to put this into play.

[lovedems]

5. My dad and 2 brothers are republicans

but they are what I would call "old fiscal conservatives". My dad hasn't been to church in 20 years and is a republican who believes in evolution (gasp!). They are all pocketbook republicans and I can't wait to see what happens when they finally realize their party has been hijacked by people they have absolutely nothing in common with. I sense a swell in the libertarian party from people like my dad who wants conservative fiscal policies ( which * hasn't delivered) yet is somewhat liberal on social issues.

Bush not only started a war in Afganistan and Iraq but also started a culture war right here in the good ol' USA.

[undergroundpanther]

7. oh yeah

"moral correctness"

Good one

Considsering all the SHIT some liberals got over"pc" Which was basicaly an attempt to demand that bullies racists and fundies develop a heart,learn civility, and to stop dehumanizing people and verbally abusing them.
There was a backlash of bullies playing victim to manipulate people and undermine the church/state barrier screaming about why can't they use the"n" word and call gay people abominations ,and prominately display a washing machine sized hunk of granite with the ten commandments on a public courthous..ect.

The bullies don't want to be civil they want control.It'sa time we stopped thinking they are like us with the same motives.

Liberals don't want people to be abused

Freepers want to get away with abusing people, and do it without being told to not do it by people who are hurt by it or people who are defending people hurt by it.

Moral corrrectness has a nice ring. MC..Hehhehe..

[ktowntennesseedem]

9. Let 'em get arrogant! Better for us in the long run.

Rove & Co. used the passions and energies of the religious right to push thru another * term, with 4 more years to fulfill a lot of big promises. If they do push thru their agenda, it will only anger moderate Republicans and drive them to the middle, where hopefully a savvy Democratic party can pick up a few of them. Even better, though, and more likely IMHO, would be when they fail to delivery on some of those extremist promises: the anger of the moderate Republicans wouldn't hold a candle to the outrage the religious-right fundamentalists would express.

I personally hope it will be enough to drive them to start their own extremist politial party, where there will be no moderates to soften their platforms and where everyone will see them for the fanatics they really are. No telling how this might play out, but I'm hoping with you that we soon see a big split in the Republican party, along what lines I don't care.

Let the backlash begin!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[tandot]

10. I hope more of those pseudo-Christian fundies speak up loud and often

more interviews on national TV, more articles written by them...

They also should use the term HOLY CRUSADE more often to make clear that Iraq is about killing Muslims (and about oil, of course)

And we should always use the word HOLY CRUSADE when we talk about them and Bush's foreign policy. How they don't just want to be free to practice their religion...they want EVERY ONE of us either to convert to their particular faith or to be stoned to death

They should talk about their view that a woman's place is in the home, that she is subservient, and that she must submit to her husbands.

[starroute]

11. Wedge issues

I've pretty much given up hope that we can actually make common cause with either the libertarians or the Paleocons like Pat Buchanan. There is simply too much racism, too much violence, too much general nastiness there.

But we can still use religion and government intrusiveness as wedge issues. The point, quite bluntly, would be to use scare tactics -- but scare tactics aimed at the right, not at our own people.

A large part of the right has had it drilled into their heads for years that "The Democrats want to take away your guns." We need to trump that. What would be some good memes?

"The Republicans want to take away your right to live your life the way you choose."

"How you choose to live your life is nobody else's goddamn business. But the Republican majority in Congress doesn't agree."

"Freedom is indivisible. How many of your Constitutionally-protected rights are at risk? Let's name a few."

"They say the way to boil a frog is slowly, so that it doesn't notice and jump out of the pot. Loss of your freedom works the same way. Don't be a frog -- sit up and take notice before it's too late."


(Hey -- I like that last one. Anybody for "Don't be a frog" t-shirts and bumper stickers?)

[LisaLynne]

14. Right. Too many of those people

hold views that are just nothing we want to be a part of (racism, etc), but I think it might divide this teetering coalition they've put together. They used to want to keep the Fundies hidden, out of sight. They wanted their votes, but they didn't really want to see them, ebcause they knew it would freak out the other half or whatever of their base. Well, I think the Fundies are getting sick of it. They feel they've handed the Republicans several elections now (well, with the help of Diebold, but they don't know that) and are ready to get their rewards. And I don't know how well that's going to sit with other factions of even the radical right.

[RaleighNCDUer]

19. Don't be a frog!

But the other side would proudly wear them thinking it's a slam against the French.

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. The Spiritual Left far outnumber the fundagelical Pharisees. We just

need to be more outspoken in terms of OUR beliefs:

NO, we are not a Christian nation. YES, separation of Church and State is a good thing.

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[seabeyond]

15. huge number of increase in w04 stickers and confederate

flag...........

literally i am looking into options have getting cash, and moving north. researching areas.

pulling kids out of private school this christmas, and putting them in public. telling them it is time they keep mouth shut. the people around here dont know what to do with them, and their beliefs.

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. Things will get extreme.

You don't raise people and tell them that being American means that they have the freedom to express themselves, then suddenly take it away without suffering some backlash.

[SmokingJacket]

17. I wish Jesus would come down and whack some people around.

"It's about LOVE, not HATE!" *whack!*

"Don't you remember the one about the camel and the eye of the needle? What, was I talking to myself around here?" *whack!*

Etc.

[Sophree]

20. It's gotten out of hand.

Completely out of hand.

These "leaders" in the Christian churches have gotten SO sanctimonious and outrageously prideful.

A co-worker of my Dad's, who also happens to go to the church I recently left, almost didn't come into our house because we had a John Kerry sign in the window. My Dad, a person of faith inside and out, in word and action, the one who taught me about God and the importance of prayer. It's hurtful and infuriating and I blame the leaders of the Christian churches, who are supposed to be discouraging this type of divisiveness and teaching us to love one another.