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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:16 PM
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Please Russia, please China
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 02:25 PM by Ironpost
When you decide you have had all you can stomach of the US aggression toward the world, please don't do as we have, are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. Lets try diplomacy first, I think most Americans are against this war in Iraq. I don't want to have to become an insurgent.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 02:33 PM
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1. they won't need to invade
All China has to do is stop buying our treasuries and either let their yuan float on the open market (not happening any time soon) or change the yuan from being tied to the dollar (as it is now) to the Euro.

If that happens, the already slowly sinking dollar will enter a free fall. Bye bye US economy.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:09 PM
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2. Ummm.. I think Russia has less diplomatic plans-Nuclear Weapons!
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:10 PM
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3. USA's epitaph: The war is over, Europe and Asia won. . .
they took all our money,
and they never used a gun.


:evilfrown:
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 03:18 PM
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4. China isn't going to invade any time this decade for certain
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 03:25 PM by Lone Pawn
They have quite a bit of economic power. Of course, much of the rapid growth in Shanghai, Beijing, and Guangzhou (and to a lesser extent Chongqing and Tianjin) is driven by American investment, so it's to their advantage to keep us strong. We're too economically linked to do anything to each other.

The only problem is that Taiwan knows that, and has been acting somewhat restlessly. Taipei really ought watch how far it pushes, because if Beijing decides to retaliate with missile strikes, it's not certain Washington will dare to assist. If we do, there's always the possibility of an economic war between America and China--one the Chinese will probably come out on top of, unless we can get significant assistance from other nations.

When it comes to military power, Russia is a joke. They have nukes, an underequipped army, and a rusted-over navy.

China's got the land strength to potentially repel a US invasion (assuming a US draft--which I would support in event of inevitable war with the Middle Kingdom--it's difficult to say who would come out on top) but America has unquestioned air and naval superiority. The war would probably turn into a very large-scale Vietnam/Iraq combination, with a few years of steady bombing and missile strikes on Chinese cities accomponied by naval blockade followed up by a D-Day-type invasion both from the coast and from Pakistan--potentially India, given that the two have an icy relationship. From there, it's a hell of a fight. Casualties would undoubtedly rival WW2's Russian front. Fortunately, once we capture and hold cities, they'll be pacified a bit faster than Iraq. Unfortunately, Mao Zedong literally wrote the book on asymmetric warfare.

But because of our sheer naval and air power, China couldn't invade no matter how hard they tried.
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