Anybody else freak out over the NPR story on detainees

[PassingFair]

in Pasaic NJ and other institutions today. Holy Cow!
More tomorrow!
Dogs! Beatings! Torture! Right here in RiverCity.

[billyoc]

1. First time to Jersey, eh?

:evilgrin:

[Spiffarino]

2. Damn.

I was going to respond seriously, and now all I can do is chuckle.

[PassingFair]

3. Please collect yourself and respond seriously, spiff

I'm more than freaked out by this.
Seems I've been seeing bits and pieces, but this NPR expose seems to be a barn burner.
I mean, they have audio on these guys.

[billyoc]

5. Yeah, they're brutal.

Farouk Abdel-Muhti, a palestinian journalist was tortured out there for two years.

http://www.democracynow.org/static/farouk.shtml

Land of the free. :puke:

[Syncronaut Seven]

4. What the fuck do you think has been going on in

American prisons all these years. That kind of sadism doesn't just appear. These guys torturing detainees have had years of experience doing these same things to our 2 million incarcerated for many many years.

Surprised?

[PassingFair]

6. No Syn Sweetheart...

I AM not surprised, I am SHOCKED that NPR is doing a serious piece on it.
Did you hear it?

[Syncronaut Seven]

7. No, Sorry

I'm Left coast, we get a delayed feed, I'll have to turn it on.

[Spiffarino]

8. I had a hell of a time collecting myself.

The guy talking about the guards siccing the dog on him and it biting him to the bone; the fellow from Guayana who had spent so many years living in and loving the U.S., only to find out there is another, much darker side...

Yeah, it was a bit of a surprise that NPR ran it, especially since they won't touch the BBV thing at all. Feeling a bit guilty, maybe?

[PassingFair]

9. Do you think that any of it will break through?

Tomorrow they are going to air the interviews of 2 different detainees who witnessed the same beating, interviewed separately from 2 different locations, thousands of miles away, and contrast them with the "official story".
This could be big.

[Spiffarino]

11. I hate to admit, but I doubt it will

So many of us (not here, but Americans on the whole) prefer to ignore suffering. Whether it's Iraq, BBV, or our country turning into a fascist theocracy, people don't want to face the mess we're in.

I think most of us are so busy and working so hard that it all becomes just so much noise. I think this is why BushCo succeeds in spite of all the evidence that he's been a total failure...people would rather not face facts and have one more damn thing to worry about.

Simplistic, sure. But I bet it's close to the truth.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

10. My sis heard a story yesterday about Guantanamo detainees

being flown out on jet streams on 300 occasions last year and being taken to countries that torture..so this is a new story today?

[PassingFair]

12. Yep, specificallly about treatment of "detainees" within our prison system

seems feds are "jobbing out" there torture.
Interviews with other prison wardens and prison experts say that the use of attack dogs is WAY beyond legal.
Would be interesting to see the numbers from companies that train ATTACK dogs, not drug sniffing, but attack dogs. Bet their businesses are booming.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

13. No doubt

this is the story my sister told me about:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1000700