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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:40 PM
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93,000 Extra Votes In Cuyahoga County - Outrage In Ohio
Sorry if this was posted already.

http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html


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You may have seen the associated press story about the precinct in Cuyahoga county that had less than 1,000 voters, and gave Bush almost 4,000 extra votes.

But that turns out to be only the tip of a very ugly iceberg. The evidence discovered by some remarkably careful sleuthing would convince any reasonable court to invalidate the entire Ohio election.

In last Tuesday's election, 29 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, reported votes cast IN EXCESS of the number of registered voters - at least 93,136 extra votes total. And the numbers are right there on the official Cuyahoga County Board of Elections website:

Bay Village - 13,710 registered voters / 18,663 ballots cast
Beachwood - 9,943 registered voters / 13,939 ballots cast
Bedford - 9,942 registered voters / 14,465 ballots cast
Bedford Heights - 8,142 registered voters / 13,512 ballots cast
Brooklyn - 8,016 registered voters / 12,303 ballots cast
Brooklyn Heights - 1,144 registered voters / 1,869 ballots cast
Chagrin Falls Village - 3,557 registered voters / 4,860 ballots cast
Cuyahoga Heights - 570 registered voters / 1,382 ballots cast
Fairview Park - 13,342 registered voters / 18,472 ballots cast
Highland Hills Village - 760 registered voters / 8,822 ballots cast
Independence - 5,735 registered voters / 6,226 ballots cast
Mayfield Village - 2,764 registered voters / 3,145 ballots cast
Middleburg Heights - 12,173 registered voters / 14,854 ballots cast
Moreland Hills Village - 2,990 registered voters / 4,616 ballots cast
North Olmstead - 25,794 registered voters / 25,887 ballots cast
Olmstead Falls - 6,538 registered voters / 7,328 ballots cast
Pepper Pike - 5,131 registered voters / 6,479 ballots cast
Rocky River - 16,600 registered voters / 20,070 ballots cast
Solon (WD6) - 2,292 registered voters / 4,300 ballots cast
South Euclid - 16,902 registered voters / 16,917 ballots cast
Strongsville (WD3) - 7,806 registered voters / 12,108 ballots cast
University Heights - 10,072 registered voters / 11,982 ballots cast
Valley View Village - 1,787 registered voters / 3,409 ballots cast
Warrensville Heights - 10,562 registered voters / 15,039 ballots cast
Woodmere Village - 558 registered voters / 8,854 ballots cast
Bedford (CSD) - 22,777 registered voters / 27,856 ballots cast
Independence (LSD) - 5,735 registered voters / 6,226 ballots cast
Orange (CSD) - 11,640 registered voters / 22,931 ballots cast
Warrensville (CSD) - 12,218 registered voters / 15,822 ballots cast

The Republicans are so BUSTED.




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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:42 PM
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1. Nominated, even if it was a dupe.
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benevolent dictator Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:43 PM
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2. wow...
is that 93,136 more votes than registered voters, or more votes than people who voted? either way, still an incredibly impressive number.

can anyone say, "election fraud"?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:44 PM
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3. Interesting.n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:45 PM
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4. Ok this is NO LONGER accidental
this is a PATTERN
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:54 PM
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11. Yes, a definite pattern.
Even if it was an "oops, our voting machines / scanners goofed" we need to get rid of them.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:47 PM
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5. VOTED FOR FRONT PAGE
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:49 PM
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6. And I love how the media can't decide how to spin in
Cuyahoga county said one day it was absentee ballots added to the wrong side of the page or something.


Warrensville (CSD) - 12,218 registered voters / 15,822 ballots cast


Wow. Not only did they get 100% of registered voters, but they managed to come up with a few thosands absentee ballots too!


ANd then yesterday I read that it had been 'typed in wrong'.


Uh...guys...why are you typing in votes...?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:50 PM
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7. What's the law on do-overs in Ohio?
This cannot stand, it's pure fraud.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:51 PM
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8. This is going to Olbermann, Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy.
I'd say they're BUSTED! Big Time!
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:52 PM
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9. They tried to explain this away by saying that the "extra" votes...
...were due to absentee ballots and people voting in districts that weren't their own.

The "absentee ballots" excuse is bogus because absentee voters are still registered voters. What about that other excuse? 93,136 people voting in different districts/precincts. Why would so people go out of their way unless it had something to do with not enough voting machines?

Analysis, please, oh mathematically inclined.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:53 PM
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10. Same thing is true in FL
Only the # is about 250,000 more votes than registered voters... I wonder who benefited from all these extra votes? hmmmm, could it be...
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:55 PM
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12. Hmmm....could it be...
SATAN!!!!!

Yes, or the dumbed-down earthly version.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:11 PM
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16. Rhandi Rhodes said:
"It's a miracle people, It's a MIRACLE!!!"

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dmac Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:56 PM
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13. Busted yes, but
watch, this won't get the press it deserves either and they will get away with it yet.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 09:57 PM
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14. Haven't we already been through this a thousand times before?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:32 PM
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18. oh, yes, the excessively complicated "explanation"
--does not "debunk" anything, just obfuscates it.
the more complicated the explanation, the less it can be trusted (IMO).
one person = one vote. now that's simple.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:52 PM
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19. It DOES debunk it and it explains why (yes, it is complicated and long)
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 10:54 PM by high density
Using bad information does not further the cause of exposing vote fraud. The explanation is complicated and long because Cuyahoga county's system is complicated.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:19 PM
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20. does it explain how absentee ballots were attributed with the discrepancy
when they hadn't actually been counted?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 07:58 AM
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21. the "system is complicated"--now isn't that convenient?!
sorry, I don't buy that. it's "complicated" when it could be simple. gee, I wonder why that is?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:02 PM
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15. Apparently, this had been debunked. :(
http://pages.ivillage.com/americans4america/id20.html

Do they count the absentee ballots like this for every election? Seems crazy to me.
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 10:22 PM
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17. edit - yes, the debunk explanation is sound.
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 11:12 PM by CabalPowered
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