BBVers ... Can anybody help out with a small amount of research?

[hedda_foil]

I hope I'm not pushing my luck by having two research threads up at once. Here's what's going on. I'm working very closely with a group of lawyers, writers, funders, PR people, activists and others to pull together the huge amount of resources to handle a high-powered recount in Ohio in support of the Cobb/Badnarik filing.

Since DU is research central for BBV, I offered to post requests for several key pieces of research. The work I'm asking for will play a major role in making the recount a success instead of another coverup ... which is no doubt Blackwell's intent.

Here's the request. After the dates are filled in, could someone please volunteer to put this together and either post it here or PM me with the results?

Here's what's needed:

Key dates for the following: deadline for state selection of electors, final date for electors to meet in all states, date electors vote, date electors votes from state must be submitted to Congress, date electoral votes submitted to Congress, date Congress votes to accept electoral votes.

and deadlines for Key states, incl. Ohio, NH, and Florida plus New Mexico and Colorado if possible, as follows:

Actual dates for the above activities in each state. (Most will probably be the same as the federal deadlines.)

Date election must be certified in each state. Date recounts must be completed in each state, if there is such a deadline.

Thank you, thank you, thank you DU patriots!!

hedda

[shraby]

1. Kick this thread.

She needs answers.

[ClassWarrior]

2. kick again...

:kick:

NGU.

[Ladyhawk]

Kick!!! nt

[Straight Shooter]

3. Should this be posted in 2004 Election Results and Discussion

That forum seems to attract the DU'ers most on top of the situation.

:thumbsup:

[rockedthevoteinMA]

5. how would i find it? n/t

[DARE to HOPE]

4. Could you call the Kerry lawyers?

I read that the DNC had asked for official responses on these very dates from all the SOS. I would try to find out myself, but the higher the official, the clearer the response. (Remember the precincts in Ohio who were told to vote on Nov 3!)

I do believe that that's the LEAST the Kerry people could give us, and they would have the clout to get straight answers.

[Eloriel]

8. I think we would do much better to not count on getting the info

from them. We've had to do this ourselves up til now and I see nothing to indicate that will change in any way.

[bleever]

6. Anybody got Congressional Quarterly's Guide to Elections?

...further details on the history and current functioning of the Electoral College are available in the second edition of Congressional Quarterly's Guide to U.S. Elections, a real goldmine of information, maps, and statistics.

...and, ironically,...

For answers to these, as well as to a number of other "what if" questions, readers are advised to consult a small volume entitled After the People Vote: Steps in Choosing the President edited by Walter Berns and published in 1983 by the American Enterprise Institute.

[Eloriel]

13. If you have that, could you look up some of this info? n/t

[Roger_Otip]

7. some dates here

December 13, 2004 - Meeting of the Electors. The electors in each state cast their votes on "Certificates of Vote," sign the certificates, and forward them to the President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States, and other federal and state officials. December 27, 2004 is the deadline for receipt of the Certificates of Vote.

December 22, 2004 - Deadline for reciept of electoral votes by the National Archives and Records Commision.

January 6, 2005 - Counting of Electoral Votes: Congress meets in a joint session to count the electoral votes. Any member of Congress may challenge any electoral vote. If this occurs, the House and Senate must vote on whether to accept or reject the vote. A simple majority vote of both chambers is required to reject an electoral vote.

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/legman/elect/ElectoralCollege.htm

[Eloriel]

16. Great info -- also has a list of the 29 states with "faithless electors"

laws (requiring the state's electors to vote in accordance with the popular vote in their states):

There is no federal law requiring electors to vote as they have pledged, and over the years a number of electors have voted against the instructions of the voters. 29 states and the District of Columbia have laws binding electors to the popular vote winners, but most constitutional scholars believe that electors remain free agents and that such laws would not survive constitutional challenge. The states with laws seeking to bind electors to the popular vote winners are:

(just listing those key states we're interested in which have these laws):

Colorado
Florida
New Mexico
North Carolina (not on your list, but maybe should be)
Ohio

[Oreo]

9. Just found a good site

http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/officials.html

http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/2004/04electionbrochure.pdf

Know Your Key Dates

The Constitution of the United States and Federal law place certain Presidential election responsibilities on State executives and the electors for President and Vice President.

* Review the Summary of Key Dates, Events & Information

By November 2, 2004
What: Hold general election to appoint Electors.
Who: Governors' legal counsel, Secretaries of State, and other State election officials.

* Read the "Appoint Electors" instructions on qualifications of electors and restrictions in the U.S. Constitution.

As soon as possible after the November 2, 2004 election results are finalized
What: Prepare and distribute the Certificate of Ascertainment.
Who: Governor of each State, Secretaries of State, and other State election officials.

* Read the "Certificate of Ascertainment" instructions for details on where / who / how to send the documents.

By December 7, 2004
What: Resolve any issues regarding election recounts, controversies, or contests.
Who: Governors' legal counsel, Secretaries of State, State courts.

* Read the "Hold the Meeting of Electors" instructions.

December 13, 2004
What: Meeting of Electors.
Who: Electors of each State, Governor of each State, and Secretaries of State.

* Read the "Hold the Meeting of Electors" instructions.

By December 22, 2004
What: Prepare and distribute the Certificate of Vote.
Who: Electors of each State, Governor of each State, and Secretaries of State.

* Read the "Certificate of Vote" instructions for details on where / who / how to send the documents.

January 6, 2005
What: Count the electoral votes.
Who: Congress.

* Review "Counting electoral votes in Congress"

[Oreo]

10. THis place is a goldmine

Key Electoral College Dates and Events

View all the 2004 Presidential Election Key Dates

* November 2, 2004 - General Election:
The voters in each State choose electors to serve in the Electoral College. As soon as election results are final, the States prepare seven original "Certificates of Ascertainment" of the electors chosen, and send one original along with two certified copies to the Archivist of the United States at the Office of the Federal Register.

* December 13, 2004 - Meeting of Electors:
The electors in each State meet to select the President and Vice President of the United States. The electors record their votes on six "Certificates of Vote," which are paired with the six remaining original "Certificates of Ascertainment." The electors sign, seal and certify the packages of electoral votes and immediately send them to the Federal and State officials listed in these instructions.

* December 22, 2004 - Deadline for Receipt of Electoral Votes:
The President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States, and other designated Federal and State officials must have the electoral votes in hand.

* January 6, 2005 - Counting Electoral Votes in Congress:
The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes (unless Congress passes a law to change the date).


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Electoral College Instructions

1. Appoint Electors
The United States Constitution and Federal law do not prescribe the method of appointment other than requiring that electors must be appointed on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November (November 2, 2004). In most States, the political parties nominate slates of electors at State conventions or central committee meetings. Then the citizens of each State appoint the electors by popular vote in the state-wide general election. However, State laws on the appointment of electors may vary.

Under the Constitution, State legislatures have broad powers to direct the process for selecting electors, with one exception regarding the qualifications of electors. Article II, section 1, clause 2 provides that "no Senator, Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States" may be appointed as an elector. It is not settled as to whether this restriction extends to all Federal officials regardless of their level of authority or the capacity in which they serve, but we advise the States that the restriction could disqualify any person who holds a Federal government job from serving as an elector.

2. Prepare the Certificate of Ascertainment
After the general election, the Governor of each State prepares seven original Certificates of Ascertainment listing the persons appointed as electors. Federal law does not govern the general appearance of the Certificate of Ascertainment. The format conforms to the law or custom of the submitting State. Federal law requires that the Certificates of Ascertainment be prepared and authenticated in the following manner:

* Each Certificate must list the names of the electors chosen by the voters and the number of votes received.
* Each Certificate must list the names of all other candidates for elector and the number of votes received.
* Each Certificate must be signed by the Governor and carry the seal of the State.

3. Distribute the Certificate of Ascertainment
One of the seven original Certificates of Ascertainment, along with two certified copies (or two additional originals) must be sent by registered mail to:

John W. Carlin
Archivist of the United States
National Archives and Records Administration
c/o Office of the Federal Register (NF)
8601 Adelphi Road
College Park, MD 20740-6001

The original Certificate and two certified copies (or duplicate originals) should be sent to the Archivist as soon as possible after the November 2 election results are finalized. At the very latest, they must be received by the electors on the statutory deadline of December 13, 2004 and submitted to the Archivist no later than December 14, 2004.

The Legal Staff of the Office of the Federal Register will examine the Certificates for legal sufficiency and send the certified copies or duplicate originals to the U.S. House and Senate. The other six originals must be retained by the State for the meeting of the State's electors on December 13, 2004. Those six originals will be attached to the Certificates of Vote executed at the Electoral College meeting.

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4. Hold the Meeting of Electors
On the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December (December 13, 2004), the electors meet in their respective States. Federal law does not permit the States to choose an alternate date for the meeting of electors - it must be held on December 13, 2004. The State legislature may designate where in the State the meeting will take place, usually in the State capital. At this meeting, the electors cast their votes for President and Vice President.

If any electors are unable to carry out their duties on the day of the Electoral College meeting, the laws of each State would govern the method for filling vacancies. Any controversy or contest concerning the appointment of electors must be decided under State law at least six days prior to the meeting of the electors.

* See Title 3, Section 6 of the U.S. Code

There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law requiring electors to vote in accordance with the popular vote in their States. Some States have such requirements.

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5. Prepare the Certificate of Vote
Federal law does not govern the general appearance of the Certificate of Vote. The format is determined under the law or custom of the submitting State. The electors must execute six Certificates of Vote. Federal law requires that the Certificates be prepared and authenticated in the following manner:

* The Certificates of Vote must contain two distinct lists, one for President and one for Vice President.
o The Certificates must list all persons who received electoral votes for President and the number of electors who voted for each person.
o The Certificates must list all persons who received votes for Vice President and the number of electors who voted for each person.
o The Certificates do not contain the names of persons who did not receive electoral votes.
* Each of the six Certificates of Vote must be signed by all of the electors.
* One of the six Certificates of Ascertainment provided to the electors by the Governor must be attached to each of the six Certificates of Vote.
* Finally, each of the six pairs of Certificates must be sealed and certified by the electors as containing the list of electoral votes of that State for President and Vice President.

6. Distribute the Paired Certificates of Vote and Certificates of Ascertainment
The six pairs of Certificates must be sent to the designated Federal and State officials as follows:

* One is sent by registered mail to:

The Honorable Richard B. Cheney
President of the United States Senate
The Capitol
Washington, DC 20510

* Two are sent by registered mail to:

John W. Carlin
Archivist of the United States
National Archives and Records Administration
c/o Office of the Federal Register (NF)
8601 Adelphi Road
College Park, MD 20740-6001

* Two are sent to:

The Secretary of State of each State.
o One of these is held subject to the order of the President of the United States Senate or the Archivist of the United States in case the electoral votes fail to reach the Senate or the Archivist.
o The other one is to be preserved by the Secretary of State for public inspection for one year.

* One is sent to:

The Chief Judge of the Federal District Court located where the electors meet.
o It is held subject to the order of the President of the United States Senate or the Archivist of the United States in case the electoral votes fail to reach the Senate or the Archivist.

The statutory deadline for the designated Federal and State officials to receive the electoral votes is December 22, 2004. Because of the very short time between the meetings of the electors in the States on December 13 and the December 22 statutory deadline, followed closely by the counting of electoral votes in Congress on January 6, 2005, it is imperative that the Certificates be mailed as soon as possible.

We strongly recommend that the sealed pairs of Certificates be taken to the Post Office on December 13, or no later than the morning of December 14, to minimize delays that could occur during the holiday mail season. Some States may find it useful to alert their local Postmaster to the extraordinarily important nature of the mailing. When the paired Certificates of Vote and Certificates of Ascertainment have been delivered to the designated Federal and State officials, the States' Electoral College duties are complete.

Prior to the election this year, the Legal Staff of the Office of the Federal Register will telephone Secretaries of State and other election officials to establish contact with the States and assure the smooth operation of the Electoral College process.

Contacts

For more information on the Electoral College and the election responsibilities of the States and the Archivist of the United States, contact the Office of the Federal Register:
Telephone: [phone]
Email: [e-mail]

Your Electoral College contacts at the Office of the Federal Register are:

* Michael White, Director of Legal Affairs and Policy
* Amy Bunk, Attorney-Advisor

[shraby]

12. Even if individual states have rules, don't

the Federal laws override them? I looked at Colorado and they have no rules that I found.

<http://i2i.org/Publications/ColoradoConstitution/cnart7.htm>

[Ladyhawk]

11. California Information

I got this information from http://www.cadem.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=fvLRK7O3E&b=190089&ct=262799

3. Where/When does the Electoral College meet?

The list of electors is certified by the Secretary of State in each state by the first Monday in December.

This year, the Electoral College will meet on Monday, December 13, 2004 in every state capital in the nation plus the District of Columbia (the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December- as set by federal law).

California: Electoral College will meet at 2pm PST in the Assembly Chambers at the State Capitol in Sacramento.

[Oreo]

14. NARA Electoral College Website

I can't say enough how amazing this site it. All the answers are here.

State by State Electoral College Links
http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/state_links.html

OHIO election calendar
http://serform2.sos.state.oh.us/sos/elections/index.html

[caligirl]

15. state electoral sites

http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/state_links.html

[Eloriel]

18. Can the two of you start extracting the info?

Maybe one of you take the top half (alphabetically)? Do you have the time?

[dewaldd]

17. Ohio recount procedures--they only do 3% by hand--DANGER!

Each county's board of election will randomly pick precincts so that the number of votes hand-counted is at least 3% of the county total. They will then compare that to a machine count of the votes, and if they match, they will STOP the hand-count. That is right--the election will be rubber-stamped if the suspicious precincts aren't hand-counted right off the bat.

HOWEVER, the candidate can specfically ask for certain precincts to be checked, so we need to get those suspicious precincts to Cobb/Badnarik so they will ask for them ahead of time. THIS IS CRITICAL!!!

Here is a very useful summary of recount procedures: http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/news/guide/recount.pdf

[henslee]

19. Here's a link to a pdf handbook of florida election laws...

It's many many pages. And has an inex. All sorts of details in it. Looking for deadline dates right now. My PC is a slow loader.


http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLaws.pdf

[bleever]

20. Full state-by-state list -- The SOS's have an assoc.! How cute!

http://www.electionline.org/site/docs/html/post_election_certification_timetable.htm

[bleever]

21. And here's the table of contents from the SOS's Assoc. site

Absentee Ballot Deadlines
Absentee Voting
Automatic Recounts
Central Statewide Voter Registration Systems
Counting Absentee Ballots
Definition of a Valid Vote on Optical Scan Systems
Definition of a Valid Vote on Punch Card Systems
Early Voting
Polling Place Accessibility and Voter Assistance
Post Election Recount/Contest Timetable
Post Election Certification Timetable
Provisional Ballots
Provisions re: Election Day Workers
Recount Provisions
Recount Provisions (continued)
States with Same-Day Voter Registration
Student Election Day Workers
Voter Registration Deadlines

[caligirl]

22. Thanks! your good! n/t

[Sydnie]

23. Another interesting "Fun Fact"

No Legal Requirement
Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:

ARIZONA - 10 Electoral Votes
ARKANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
DELAWARE - 3 Electoral Votes
GEORGIA - 15 Electoral Votes
IDAHO - 4 Electoral Votes
ILLINOIS - 21 Electoral Votes
INDIANA - 11 Electoral Votes
IOWA - 7 Electoral Votes
KANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
KENTUCKY - 8 Electoral Votes
LOUISIANA - 9 Electoral Votes
MINNESOTA - 10 Electoral Votes
MISSOURI - 11 Electoral Votes
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 4 Electoral Votes
NEW JERSEY - 15 Electoral Votes
NEW YORK - 31 Electoral Votes
NORTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
PENNSYLVANIA - 21 Electoral Votes
RHODE ISLAND - 4 Electoral Votes
SOUTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
TENNESSEE - 11 Electoral Votes
TEXAS - 34 Electoral Votes
UTAH - 5 Electoral Votes
WEST VIRGINIA - 5 Electoral Votes


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Legal Requirements or Pledges
Electors in these States are bound by State Law or by pledges to cast their vote for a specific candidate:

ALABAMA - 9 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - § 17-19-2
ALASKA - 3 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - § 15.30.040; 15.30.070
CALIFORNIA - 55 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 6906
COLORADO - 9 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 1-4-304
CONNECTICUT - 7 Electoral Votes
State Law § 9-175
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA - 3 Electoral Votes
DC Pledge / DC Law - § 1-1312(g)
FLORIDA - 27 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - § 103.021(1)
HAWAII - 4 Electoral Votes
State Law - §§ 14-26 to 14-28
MAINE - 4 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 805
MARYLAND - 10 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 20-4
MASSACHUSETTS - 12 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - Ch. 53, § 8, Supp.
MICHIGAN - 17 Electoral Votes
State Law - §168.47 (Violation cancels vote and elector is replaced).
MISSISSIPPI - 6 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - §23-15-785(3)
MONTANA - 3 Electoral Votes
State Law - §13-25-104
NEBRASKA - 5 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 32-714
NEVADA - 5 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 298.050
NEW MEXICO - 5 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 1-15-5 to 1-15-9 (Violation is a fourth degree felony.)
NORTH CAROLINA - 15 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 163-212 (Violation cancels vote; elector is replaced and is subject to $500 fine.)
OHIO - 20 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 3505.40
OKLAHOMA - 7 Electoral Votes
State Pledge / State Law - 26, §§ 10-102; 10-109 (Violation of oath is a misdemeanor, carrying a fine of up to $1000.)
OREGON - 7 Electoral Votes
State Pledge / State Law - § 248.355
SOUTH CAROLINA - 8 Electoral Votes
State Pledge / State Law - § 7-19-80 (Replacement and criminal sanctions for violation.)
VERMONT - 3 Electoral Votes
State Law - title 17, § 2732
* VIRGINIA - 13 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 24.1-162 (Virginia statute may be advisory - "Shall be expected" to vote for nominees.)
WASHINGTON - 11 Electoral Votes
Party Pledge / State Law - §§ 29.71.020, 29.71.040, Supp. ($1000 fine.)
WISCONSIN - 10 Electoral Votes
State Law - § 7.75
WYOMING - 3 Electoral Votes
State Law - §§ 22-19-106; 22-19-108

http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/laws.html

[mcg]

24. Here are some web references

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer nor an expert in election law.

General info:

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/legman/elect/ElectoralCollege.htm

December 13, 2004 - Meeting of the Electors. The electors in each state cast their votes on "Certificates of Vote," sign the certificates, and forward them to the President of the Senate, the Archivist of the United States, and other federal and state officials. December 27, 2004 is the deadline for receipt of the Certificates of Vote.

December 22, 2004 - Deadline for reciept of electoral votes by the National Archives and Records Commision.

January 6, 2005 - Counting of Electoral Votes: Congress meets in a joint session to count the electoral votes. Any member of Congress may challenge any electoral vote. If this occurs, the House and Senate must vote on whether to accept or reject the vote. A simple majority vote of both chambers is required to reject an electoral vote.

Ohio information:

2004 Ohio Election Calendar (pdf format):

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/pubaffairs/elections/elecalen.pdf

Nov. 17 Boards of elections must begin official canvass of ballots no later than this date (15 days after the election) . . . . . . . . .3505.32

2005
*Jan. 1 General election ballots from 2004, except for federal office, may be discarded unless ordered by the Secretary of State (60 days after the election) . . . . .3505.31

Recounts and Election Contests
An application for a recount must be filed not later than five days after official results are declared . . . . . . . . . . . .3515.02

A petition contesting an election must be filed in the appropriate court within 15 days after the official results are declared, or within 10 days after the official results of a recount are declared . . . . .3515.09

Election 2004 Key Dates (general):

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/dates.html

December 7 (Tuesday) Deadline for resolution of any controversies under state law concerning appointment of electors to Electoral College

December 13 (Monday) Meetings and Votes of the Electoral College in each state

January 5 (Wednesday) Congress counts the Electoral College votes from the states

Ohio info: Part 5: Voting Procedures
Section 5.3 - Recounts and Other Remedies

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/procedures_recount01.html

Relevant Ohio Revised Code Statutes (regarding recounts):

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/procedures_recount_os.html

[Oreo]

25. COLORADO INFO

Election Dates
http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/2004master.pdf
November 24 - Last Day for SOS to compile and total returns from all counties and order appropriate recounts

November 29 - Last day a losing candidate may request a recount at their own expense

December 10 - Last Day to complete a mandatatory or requested recount

It's not worth typing... the pdf is 10 pages

Late Voter Registrations
If a County Clerk and Recorder receives unquestionable voter registration forms after the cut off date for registration, but it is obvious the voter completed the form prior to the October 4 deadline, we will not prevent that voter from being registered because it was the fault of a political party or voter registration drive in delivering the forms too late. The Secretary of State is charged under the State Constitution with protecting the voters right to register and vote.

Emergency Voter Registration
The law (C.R.S. 1-2-217.5) allows an individual to register using an emergency registration so long as:
* the voter was registered to vote in a different county
* the voterfailed to register in their new county within the limits of the law
* the voter can provide the name, date, and location where they registered using a third party; or
* the voter registered by Federal postcard or mail registration, which includes voter registration drives.
If a voter chooses to emergency register they must under oath state they have completed all the requirements described in Colorado law.
Every elector is allowed to register and vote only once. If you do emergency register, bring your ID to the polling place.

[caligirl]

26. state provisions for recount info still need dates for deadlines

http://www.electionline.org/site/docs/html/recount_provisions_-_part_1.htm
and part 2
http://www.electionline.org/site/docs/html/recount_provisions_-_part_2.htm

[caligirl]

27. recount deadlines by state

http://www.electionline.org/site/docs/html/post-election_recount_-_contest_timetable.htm

[caligirl]

28. state by state election cert deadlines

http://www.electionline.org/site/docs/html/post_election_certification_timetable.htm

[caligirl]

30. Can we compile this into a single page of links?

[Hobbes199]

32. Go up a level...

http://www.electionline.org/site/docs/html/

[Carolab]

29. A page that cites each state's statutes regarding electors

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G04/EC-Appointed.phtml

2004 Electors for
President and Vice President
of the United States

This information was compiled for the 2000 Presidential Election
and is subject to updating and/or changes for 2004.

"Each State shall appoint, in such manner as the legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors..."
(U.S. Constitution: Article II, Section 1, clause 2)

STATE chosen by citation on General Election
ballot as Pledged by statute to support winning ticket?
ALABAMA Political Party organization Ala. Code 17-19-2(c) unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
ALASKA Political Party organization Ak. Statutes 15.30.020 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
ARIZONA Political Party primary election Ariz. Rev. Statutes 16-344 named slate (at-large) No
ARKANSAS Political Party state convention Ark. Code 7-8-302(1) unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
CALIFORNIA Political Party per statute Calif. Elections Code 7100, 7300 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
COLORADO Political Party state convention Colo. Rev. Statutes 1-4-302 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
CONNECTICUT Political Party state convention Conn. Gen. Statutes 9-175 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Political Party central committee D.C. Code 1-1312(d) unnamed slate (at-large) Yes (oath or affirmation required when chosen)
DELAWARE Political Party state convention Del. Code 15:3301 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
FLORIDA Political Party central committee Fla. Statutes 103.021 unnamed slate (at-large) No
GEORGIA Political Party organization Ga. Official Code 21-2-130 unnamed slate (at-large) No
HAWAII Political Party state convention Hi. Rev. Statutes 14-21 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
IDAHO Political Party state convention Ida. Code 34-707 named slate (at-large) No
ILLINOIS Political Party state convention Ill. Compiled Statutes 10-5/21-1(a) unnamed slate (at-large) No
INDIANA Political Party state convention Ind. Code 3-8-4-2 unnamed slate (at-large) No
IOWA Political Party central committee Code of Ia. 54.5
unnamed slate (at-large) No
KANSAS Political Party central committee Kan. Statutes 25-804 unnamed slate (at-large) No
KENTUCKY Political Party state convention Ky. Rev. Statutes 118.325 unnamed slate (at-large) No
LOUISIANA Political Party organization La. Rev. Statutes 18:1253 named slate (at-large) No
MAINE Political Party state convention Me. Rev. Statutes T.21-A; 321.2 unnamed (1 per congressional district/ 2 at-large) Yes
MARYLAND Political Party organization Code of Md.: Art.33(Elec.Code), 8-503 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
MASSACHUSETTS Political Party central committee Mass. Gen. Laws c. 53, 8 unnamed slate (at-large) No
MICHIGAN Political Party state convention Mich. Compiled Laws 168.42 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
MINNESOTA Political Party state convention Minn. Statutes 208.03 unnamed slate (at-large) No
MISSISSIPPI Political Party state convention (nomination) / primary election (choice) Miss. Code 23-15-771 unnamed slate (at-large) No
MISSOURI Political Party central committee Mo. Rev. Statutes 115.399 unnamed slate (at-large) No
MONTANA Political Party organization Mont. Code 13-25-101 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
NEBRASKA Political Party state convention Neb. Rev. Statutes 32-710 unnamed (1 per congressional district/ 2 at-large slate) No
NEVADA Political Party state convention Nev. Rev. Statutes 298.020 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
NEW HAMPSHIRE Political Party state convention N.H. Rev. Statutes c. 655, 54 unnamed slate (at-large) No
NEW JERSEY Political Party state convention or central committee (conflicting statutes) N.J. Rev. Statutes 19:13-2 conflicts with 19:13-15 unnamed slate (at-large) No
NEW MEXICO Political Party state convention N.M. Statutes 1-15-3 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes (failure to do so: subject to criminal prosecution)
NEW YORK Political Party central committee N.Y. Election Law 6-102 unnamed slate (at-large) No
NORTH CAROLINA Political Party state convention Gen. Statutes of N.C. 163-1 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes (failure to do so: subject to fine)
NORTH DAKOTA Political Party state convention N.D. Century Code 16.1-03-14 named slate (at-large) No
OHIO Political Party state convention Ohio Rev. Code 3513.11 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
OKLAHOMA Political Party state convention Okla. Statutes 26-10-101 named slate (at-large) Yes (oath required: violation subject to fine)
OREGON Political Party organization Ore. Rev. Statutes 248.355 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes (must sign pledge upon being chosen)
PENNSYLVANIA Political Party presidential nominee Pa. Consolidated Statutes 25*2878 unnamed slate (at-large) No
RHODE ISLAND Political Party state convention Gen. Laws of R.I. 17-12-13 named slate (at-large) No
SOUTH CAROLINA Political Party central committee Code of Laws of S.C. 7-9-90 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes (declaration of intent required: violators subject to criminal prosecution)
SOUTH DAKOTA Political Party state convention S.D. Codified Laws 12-5-21 named slate (at-large) No
TENNESSEE Political Party organization Tenn. Code 2-13-203 named individually Yes (but 'free agent' if either- or both- candidates on winning ticket are deceased at the time Electors meet)
TEXAS Political Party organization Tex. Election Code 192.003 unnamed slate (at-large) No
UTAH Political Party organization Utah Code 20A-13-301 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes (failure to do so: automatic resignation of Elector and replacement by vote of remaining Electors)
VERMONT Political Party state convention Vt. Statutes 17-2319, 17-2721 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
VIRGINIA Political Party state convention Code of Va. 24.2-508 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
WASHINGTON Political Party organization Rev. Code of Wash. 29.71.020 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes (failure to do so: subject to fine)
WEST VIRGINIA Political Party state convention W.Va. Code 3-5-21 unnamed slate (at-large) No
WISCONSIN Political Party state legislative candidates and state officers Wis. Statutes 8.18 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes (unless candidate is deceased)
WYOMING Political Party state convention Wyo. Statutes 22-19-102 unnamed slate (at-large) Yes
Place and Time of Meeting on December 13, 2004
May Electors Defect?
THE "FAITHLESS SEVEN" - Presidential Electors who have defected in the past

Pledged by statute to support winning ticket?
This is a tricky area: in many states which so require by law , the statute specifically states that the Electors shall cast their ballots to the national ticket which received the most popular votes; in other states, the statute is not so specific- however, the language regarding how the vote of the voter is to be applied to the allocation of Electors implies just such a pledge. When in doubt, this column has been marked "No"- the reason being that these state laws pledging (or implying a pledge of) the Electors to vote for the winning national ticket are of dubious constitutionality (theoretically, the Electors- like U.S. Senators- though representing the State, are Federal officers: the State cannot legally "instruct" Federal officers which, nonetheless, represent it; thus, at least in theory, the Electors are 'free agents' who can cast their ballots for President and Vice President as they see fit- the only check on this being whether or not the Joint Session of Congress which counts and tabulates the Electoral Vote accepts the Elector's votes as valid. Keep in mind, however, that- even re: States where this column reads "No"- there may be political party intradiscipline which will keep an "appointed" Presidential Elector from not voting for the winning ticket!)

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31. Federally mandated

It looks like it is consistent federally, but will continue to look. Please find some information here.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G04/EC-Meeting.phtml
http://www.pirate969.org/ical/month.php?cal=all_calendars_combined971&getdate=20050101

If it goes in parallel to 2000 then...

Dec. 7: the date when states must select the members of the Electoral College. (Dec 12, 2000)

Dec. 13: known, when the electors in each state will meet in their statehouses and cast their votes for the next president. (Dec 18, 2000)

Dec. 22: deadline for receipt of the electoral votes by the President of the Senate. (Dec 27, 2000)

Jan. 3: known, congress convenes. (Jan 3, 2001)

Jan. 6: known, when the new Congress is to meet to count the electoral votes. (Jan 6, 2001)

[Carolab]

33. Colorado's statute

1-4-304. Presidential electors.
Statute text
(1) The presidential electors shall convene at the capital of the state, in the office of the governor at the capitol building, on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in the first December following their election at the hour of 12 noon and take the oath required by law for presidential electors. If any vacancy occurs in the office of a presidential elector because of death, refusal to act, absence, or other cause, the presidential electors present shall immediately proceed to fill the vacancy in the electoral college. When all vacancies have been filled, the presidential electors shall proceed to perform the duties required of them by the constitution and laws of the United States. The vote for president and vice president shall be taken by open ballot.

(2) The secretary of state shall give notice in writing to each of the presidential electors of the time and place of the meeting at least ten days prior to the meeting.

(3) The secretary of state shall provide the presidential electors with the necessary blanks, forms, certificates, or other papers or documents required to enable them to properly perform their duties.

(4) If desired, the presidential electors may have the advice of the attorney general of the state in regard to their official duties.

(5) Each presidential elector shall vote for the presidential candidate and, by separate ballot, vice-presidential candidate who received the highest number of votes at the preceding general election in this state.

History
Source: L. 80: Entire article R&RE, p. 324, § 1, effective January 1, 1981. L. 92: Entire part amended, p. 675, § 4, effective January 1, 1993. L. 2001: (5) amended, p. 1002, § 3, effective August 8.

Annotations
Editor's note: This section was contained in an article that was repealed and reenacted in 1980. Provisions of this section, as it existed in 1980, are the same as those contained in 1-17-101 as said section existed in 1979, the year prior to the repeal and reenactment of this article.

Annotations
ANNOTATION

Annotations
Am. Jur.2d. See 25 Am. Jur.2d, Elections, § 5

34. Re: Mainstream media for possible BBV story

I think Aaron Brown or Sam Donaldson might look into your proposed story if you send it to them. I sent them a possible story and they wrote me back. I had emails for them but I lost them.

I don't know if the story ever was printed but I ended up getting an award I have no idea why from Rosa Parks and the civil rights organization she is a member of.

[hedda_foil]

35. I love you guys!!!

Please keep it up, folks. The info for Ohio and Colorado is perfect. Broken out just the way we need it. Can you work the links and get the same treatment for Florida, Nevada and New Mexico please?

This is SO important to make sure that all the dates are met and nothing is overlooked. Honestly, by finding the key dates in each state you may be contributing the key link to save democracy. That sounds cheesy but it's the truth.

hedda :grouphug:

[Oreo]

46. Glad I could help

I enjoyed listening to you last night.

It's amazing that the main thing the country is worried about now is that a girl took off her towel and jumped into the arms of a football player. Unreal.

[bleever]

36. Link to National Assoc. of SOS's election law listings

Absentee Ballot Deadlines
http://www.nass.org/electioninfo/laws&admin.htm


Absentee Voting
Automatic Recounts
Central Statewide Voter Registration Systems
Counting Absentee Ballots
Definition of a Valid Vote on Optical Scan Systems
Definition of a Valid Vote on Punch Card Systems
Early Voting
Polling Place Accessibility and Voter Assistance
Post Election Recount/Contest Timetable
Post Election Certification Timetable
Provisional Ballots
Provisions re: Election Day Workers
Recount Provisions
Recount Provisions (continued)
States with Same-Day Voter Registration
Student Election Day Workers
Voter Registration Deadlines

[bleever]

37. NB! n/t

[Carolab]

38. NEW MEXICO

1-15-1. Presidential electors; notification of state chairmen.

On or before June 1 of each year in which the president and vice president of the United States are to be elected, the secretary of state shall send written notice to the state chairman of each qualified political party in New Mexico setting forth the method and requirements for nominating and electing presidential electors in this state at the general election.

1-15-3. Presidential electors; nomination.

A. Any qualified political party in New Mexico desiring to have candidates for president and vice president on the general election ballot in a presidential election year shall, at a state party convention held in the year of such election, choose from the voters of such party the number of presidential electors required by law and no more.

B. The presidential electors shall be nominated by the state convention according to the rules of that party on file with the secretary of state.

C. Upon the nomination of presidential electors, the chairman and secretary of the convention shall certify the names and addresses of such nominees not less than fifty-six days prior to the election to the secretary of state. The secretary of state shall record the nominees' names in his office as the presidential elector nominees of that party.


1-15-4. Presidential electors; election.

A. The names of the presidential elector nominees shall not be placed upon the general election ballot; instead, the secretary of state shall certify to the county clerks the names of persons nominated by each qualified political party for the offices of president and vice president of the United States.

B. The names of such nominees for president and vice president for each qualified political party shall be printed together in pairs upon the general election ballot. A vote for any such pair of nominees shall be a vote for the presidential electors of the political party by which such nominees were named.

C. The presidential elector nominees of the party whose nominees for president and vice president receive the highest number of votes at the general election shall be the elected presidential electors for this state, and each shall be granted a certificate of election by the state canvassing board.

Statute 1-15-6 Presidential electors; organization

A. Presidential electors of the state shall meet at 11:00 a.m. in the office of the secretary of state on the day fixed by the laws of the United States for presidential electors to cast their ballots for president and vice president of the United States.

B. At such meeting the presidential electors shall organize by choosing a presiding officer and a secretary.

C. If the full number of electors required by law are not present at such meeting for any reason, those presidential electors present shall, from a list of names nominated by the state chairman of that party, forthwith choose electors from the voters of that state party.

D. The secretary of state shall provide such clerical assistance as needed by the presidential electors in performing their duties.


1-15-9. Presidential electors; penalty.

A. All presidential electors shall cast their ballots in the electoral college for the candidates of the political party which nominated them as presidential electors.

B. Any presidential elector who casts his ballot in violation of the provisions contained in Subsection A of this section is guilty of a fourth degree felony.


http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-hit-h.htm&2.0

[Carolab]

39. NEVADA

NRS 298.010 Time when chosen; number. In each year when the election of President and Vice President of the United States is to take place, there shall be chosen as many electors of President and Vice President of the United States as this state is then entitled to.

+ <3:108:1866; B § 2601; BH § 1638; C § 1784; RL § 2767; NCL § 4767>

NRS 298.020 Selection of party’s nominees.

1. Each major political party in this state, qualified by law to place upon the general election ballot candidates for the office of President and Vice President of the United States in the year when they are to be elected, shall, at the state convention of the major political party held in that year, choose from the qualified electors, who are legally registered members of that political party, the number of presidential electors required by law and no more, who must be nominated by the delegates at the state convention. Upon the nomination thereof, the chairman and the secretary of the convention shall certify the names and addresses of the nominees to the Secretary of State, who shall record the names in his office as the nominees of that political party for presidential elector.

2. Each minor political party in this state, qualified by law to place upon the general election ballot candidates for the office of President and Vice President of the United States in the year when they are to be elected, shall choose from the qualified electors, the number of presidential electors required by law. The person who is authorized to file the list of candidates for partisan office of the minor political party with the Secretary of State pursuant to NRS 293.1725 shall certify the names and addresses of the nominees to the Secretary of State, who shall record the names in his office as the nominees of that political party for presidential elector.

<1:38:1949; 1943 NCL § 4767.01> + <2:38:1949; A 1953, 135> + <3:38:1949; 1943 NCL § 4767.03>—(NRS A 1969, 65; 1979, 405; 1989, 2172; 1999, 3560)

NRS 298.025 Nominees of candidates who receive highest number of votes at general election become presidential electors. Presidential electors are not nominated at the primary election or placed upon the general election ballot, but the nominees of the presidential and vice presidential candidates who receive the highest number of votes at the general election thereby become the official presidential electors. The presidential electors shall perform the duties of such electors as required by law and the Constitution of the United States.

(Added to NRS by 1979, 405; A 1993, 2782)

NRS 298.030 Time when presidential electors required to convene at seat of government. The presidential electors so chosen shall convene at the seat of government on the 1st Monday after the 2nd Wednesday in December next after their election, at 2 p.m., or on such other date as the Congress of the United States may by law hereafter provide.



NRS 298.040 Filling vacancy upon death or absence of presidential elector. In case of the death or absence of any presidential elector chosen, or if the number of presidential electors shall from any cause be deficient, the national committeewoman, the national committeeman and the state chairman of the party whose nominees for President and Vice President received the greatest number of votes in the State at the next preceding general election shall forthwith elect, from the qualified electors of this state registered as affiliated with such prevailing party, as many persons as will supply the deficiency. A majority of such three party officials shall be sufficient to fill such vacancies.

—(NRS A 1961, 296)

NRS 298.050 Convening and voting for President and Vice President. The presidential electors, when convened, shall vote by ballot for one person for President and one person for Vice President of the United States, one of whom, at least, must not be an inhabitant of this state. The presidential electors shall vote only for the nominees for President and Vice President of the party or the independent candidates that prevailed in this state in the preceding general election.

—(NRS A 1961, 296; 1993, 2783)

NRS 298.060 Presidential electors to use separate ballots. The presidential electors shall name in their ballots the persons voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the persons voted for as Vice President.



NRS 298.070 Lists of persons voted for and number of votes; certification; transmission to President of the Senate. The presidential electors shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice President, and of the number of votes given for each, which lists they shall sign, certify, seal and transmit to the seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate.



NRS 298.080 Proceedings of presidential electors to conform to United States Constitution and laws. In complying with the provisions of NRS 298.050 to 298.070, inclusive, the presidential electors shall, in all respects, proceed conformably to the Constitution of the United States and the laws of the United States.



http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-298.html

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State law provides for the official canvass to commence the Thursday following the election and be completed within 28 days.

http://www.co.nevada.ca.us/coclerk/LJBINTRO.htm

[Carolab]

40. Certification timetable by state

http://www.electionline.org/site/docs/html/post_election_certification_timetable.htm

Post-Election Certification Timetable


County/Local Certification
State Certification

(First line is county/local deadline and second line is state deadline)

Alabama
Friday following election
15 days after election

Alaska
15th day after election
Begins 16 days after election; no deadline for finishing (generally takes two to three weeks)

Arizona
6-15 days after election
Third Monday following election

Arkansas
At least 48 hours after close of election, no later than third day after election; 10th day if number of absentee ballots is sufficient to affect outcome of election


California
Begins no later than Thursday after election; to secretary of state within 35 days of election
39th day after election

Colorado
No later than seventh day after election; to secretary of state no later than eight day after election
No later than 14th day after election, and shall determine whether a recount is necessary

Connecticut
6 pm day after election
30 days after election

Delaware
Canvassing boards meet second day after election at 10 am; must deliver certificates of election to State Election Commissioner within three days
Without delay as soon as certificates are received

Florida
Unofficial returns filed by noon of day following election; by seventh (primary) or 11th (general) day following election; must determine if counts contain any errors due to equipment failure
Seventh day following a primary; 11th day following a general election

Georgia
Not later than seven days after election
14 days from date of election

Hawaii
After the contest period (six days after a primary and 20 days after general)
After the contest period (six days after primary and 20 days after general)

Idaho
Within seven days of primary, 10 days of general
Within 15 days of primary or general

Illinois
Within seven days after election
Within 20 days after election

Indiana
No later than noon on Monday following election
No later than noon on last Tuesday in November

Iowa
First Monday or Tuesday after election
No later than 27 days after the election

Kansas
No later than fifth day following election
First day of next month after election (e.g., Dec. 1 for Nov. election)

Kentucky
10 days after election
3rd Monday after election

Louisiana
12:00 pm on the fifth day after election

R.S. 18:574A
On or before 12th day after election (if no action of contest has been filed)

R.S. 18:574E

Maine
Three business days after election
Within 20 days after election

Maryland
Second Friday after an election, or if canvass is completed after that date, within 48 hours of completion of the canvass
Must begin within 35 days after an election; no deadline

Massachusetts
Within 15 days of election
After 5 pm on the 15th day after the election, or after a recount has been resolved

Michigan
14 days after election
No later than 20th day after election

Minnesota
On or before seventh day following election
Second Tuesday following election

Mississippi
Returns to sec state within 10 days of election
Not later than 30 days after election

Missouri
Second Tuesday after election
Second Tuesday in December

Montana
Within three days after election
Within 20 days of election

Nebraska
Yes
Yes

Nevada
On or before fifth working day following election
Fourth Wednesday of November

New Hampshire



New Jersey
Meet at noon on the Monday after the election; statement of result to secretary of state by seventh day after meeting
No later than 28th day after election

New Mexico
Within 10 days of the election
Third Tuesday after election

New York
25 days after general (with exceptions)
December 20 for general (with exceptions)

North Carolina
11am third day following election
11 am on Tuesday following the third Monday after the general election; may adjourn for up to 10 days to wait for missing abstracts

North Dakota
Board meets not earlier than third day following election and not later than sixth day following election
No later than 17 days after election

Ohio
Must begin no earlier than 11 days after election and no later than 15 days after; no statutory deadline for completion of canvass (effective August 28, 2001: the Secretary of State is required to specify no later than 35 days before the election, a date for the completion for the canvass
No later than 10 days after abstracts received from all counties; no statutory deadline

Oklahoma
5 pm Friday following election
5 pm Friday following election

Oregon
Official abstracts must be sent to secretary of state 20 days after election
Certify official returns no later than 30 days after election

Pennsylvania
County must canvass on third day following election and certify results within five days after the computation is done.

§1404 and 1409
Forthwith upon receipt of canvass returns

Rhode Island
Board meets the day following the election; certificates of election cannot be issued until recounts are resolved
Counting begins at 9 pm on election day; no deadline for completion (a survey by NASED indicates that certification of results must be completed in "sufficient time to allow successful candidates to be sworn in on the appropriate date")

South Carolina



South Dakota
Must certify to sec state within three days of election
Board meets within seven days of election to conduct state canvass

Tennessee
Must certify by second Monday after election
Must certify "as soon as returns are received"

Texas
By the seventh day after the election
No earlier than 15 and no later than 30 days after the election

Utah
Monday after election
Fourth Monday in November

Vermont
10 am on the next Tuesday following the election
10 am on the next Tuesday following the election; constitutional officers not certified until legislature convenes in following January

Virginia
Day after election day
Fourth Monday in November

Washington
10 days following primary; 15 days following general
Third Tuesday following primary; 30 days following general

West Virginia



Wisconsin
No later than 9 am on Thursday following election
No later than December 1

Wyoming
No later than first Friday following election
No later than second Wednesday following election


Source: National Conference of State Legislatures, July 2001

[hedda_foil]

41. Kick and Kudos!

[Carolab]

42. FLORIDA (UGH)

103.021 Nomination for presidential electors.--Candidates for presidential electors shall be nominated in the following manner:

(1) The Governor shall nominate the presidential electors of each political party. He or she shall nominate only the electors recommended by the state executive committee of the respective political party. Each such elector shall be a qualified elector of the party he or she represents who has taken an oath that he or she will vote for the candidates of the party that he or she is nominated to represent. The Governor shall certify to the Department of State on or before September 1, in each presidential election year, the names of a number of electors for each political party equal to the number of senators and representatives which this state has in Congress.

(2) The names of the presidential electors shall not be printed on the general election ballot, but the names of the actual candidates for President and Vice President for whom the presidential electors will vote if elected shall be printed on the ballot in the order in which the party of which the candidate is a nominee polled the highest number of votes for Governor in the last general election.

(3) Candidates for President and Vice President with no party affiliation may have their names printed on the general election ballots if a petition is signed by 1 percent of the registered electors of this state, as shown by the compilation by the Department of State for the last preceding general election. A separate petition from each county for which signatures are solicited shall be submitted to the supervisor of elections of the respective county no later than July 15 of each presidential election year. The supervisor shall check the names and, on or before the date of the first primary, shall certify the number shown as registered electors of the county. The supervisor shall be paid by the person requesting the certification the cost of checking the petitions as prescribed in s. 99.097. The supervisor shall then forward the certificate to the Department of State which shall determine whether or not the percentage factor required in this section has been met. When the percentage factor required in this section has been met, the Department of State shall order the names of the candidates for whom the petition was circulated to be included on the ballot and shall permit the required number of persons to be certified as electors in the same manner as party candidates.

(4)(a) A minor party that is affiliated with a national party holding a national convention to nominate candidates for President and Vice President of the United States may have the names of its candidates for President and Vice President of the United States printed on the general election ballot by filing with the Department of State a certificate naming the candidates for President and Vice President and listing the required number of persons to serve as electors. Notification to the Department of State under this subsection shall be made by September 1 of the year in which the election is held. When the Department of State has been so notified, it shall order the names of the candidates nominated by the minor party to be included on the ballot and shall permit the required number of persons to be certified as electors in the same manner as other party candidates.

(b) A minor party that is not affiliated with a national party holding a national convention to nominate candidates for President and Vice President of the United States may have the names of its candidates for President and Vice President printed on the general election ballot if a petition is signed by 1 percent of the registered electors of this state, as shown by the compilation by the Department of State for the preceding general election. A separate petition from each county for which signatures are solicited shall be submitted to the supervisors of elections of the respective county no later than July 15 of each presidential election year. The supervisor shall check the names and, on or before the date of the first primary, shall certify the number shown as registered electors of the county. The supervisor shall be paid by the person requesting the certification the cost of checking the petitions as prescribed in s. 99.097. The supervisor shall then forward the certificate to the Department of State, which shall determine whether or not the percentage factor required in this section has been met. When the percentage factor required in this section has been met, the Department of State shall order the names of the candidates for whom the petition was circulated to be included on the ballot and shall permit the required number of persons to be certified as electors in the same manner as other party candidates.

(5) When for any reason a person nominated or elected as a presidential elector is unable to serve because of death, incapacity, or otherwise, the Governor may appoint a person to fill such vacancy who possesses the qualifications required for the elector to have been nominated in the first instance. Such person shall file with the Governor an oath that he or she will support the same candidates for President and Vice President that the person who is unable to serve was committed to support.

History.--s. 1, ch. 25143, 1949; s. 7, ch. 26870, 1951; s. 1, ch. 61-364; s. 1, ch. 67-353; ss. 10, 35, ch. 69-106; ss. 7, 8, ch. 70-269; s. 1, ch. 70-439; s. 32, ch. 77-175; s. 8, ch. 83-251; s. 13, ch. 85-80; s. 603, ch. 95-147; s. 5, ch. 99-318.

Note.--Former s. 102.011.
103.051 Congress sets meeting dates of electors.--The presidential electors shall, at noon on the day which is directed by Congress, meet at Tallahassee and perform the duties required of them by the Constitution and laws of the United States.

History.--s. 6, ch. 71, 1847; RS 204; GS 288; RGS 384; CGL 449; s. 7, ch. 26870, 1951; s. 32, ch. 77-175.

Note.--Former s. 105.01.

103.061 Meeting of electors and filling of vacancies.--Each presidential elector shall, before 10 a.m. on the day fixed by Congress to elect a President and Vice President, give notice to the Governor that the elector is in Tallahassee and ready to perform the duties of presidential elector. The Governor shall forthwith deliver to the presidential electors present a certificate of the names of all the electors; and if, on examination thereof, it should be found that one or more electors are absent, the electors present shall elect by ballot, in the presence of the Governor, a person or persons to fill such vacancy or vacancies as may have occurred through the nonattendance of one or more of the electors.

History.--s. 8, ch. 71, 1847; RS 206; GS 290; RGS 386; CGL 451; s. 7, ch. 26870, 1951; s. 32, ch. 77-175; s. 1, ch. 85-19; s. 604, ch. 95-147.

Note.--Former s. 105.03.

103.062 Plurality of votes to fill vacancy; proceeding in case of tie.--If any more than the number of persons required to fill the vacancy as provided by s. 103.061 receive the highest and an equal number of votes, then the election of those receiving such highest and equal number of votes shall be determined by lot drawn by the Governor in the presence of the presidential electors attending; otherwise, those, to the number required, receiving the highest number of votes, shall be considered elected to fill the vacancy.

History.--s. 7, ch. 26870, 1951; s. 2, ch. 67-353; s. 32, ch. 77-175.

Note.--Former s. 103.031.

http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0103/ch0103.htm

[Carolab]

43. New Hampshire

660:26 Canvass. The secretary of state, as soon as may be, shall lay all returns received pursuant to RSA 660:25 before the governor and council, and the votes shall be examined and counted and the election of the person having the largest number of votes declared and certified, and the certificate thereof shall be made out and transmitted in the manner described in RSA 659:84. If upon second balloting 2 or more persons shall have the largest and equal number of votes in any district, so that no choice is made therein, the same proceedings shall be again had as are provided in RSA 660:25; and so from time to time, so long as may be necessary, until some one shall have the largest number of votes.

Meetings of Presidential Electors

660:27 Time. The electors of the president and vice-president shall meet in the state house in Concord on the day fixed by law and, by 12 o'clock at midday, shall give notice to the governor and council of the number of electors present who accept the office.

660:28 Vacancies. If the requisite number of electors are not present or do not accept, or if the requisite number of electors shall not be chosen by reason of 2 or more persons having an equal number of votes, the electors present who do accept, in the presence of the governor and council, shall forthwith choose by ballot the number needed.

660:29 Conduct. The electors shall give their votes for president and vice-president of the United States in Concord on said day and shall proceed according to law.

660:30 Compensation. Each elector shall be paid $3; and each shall receive $.10 a mile for their travel to and from Concord. Also, the electors shall be allowed a reasonable sum, not to exceed $25, to pay for the services of a secretary.

660:31 Depositing Fees and Assessments. There is established in the state treasury a separate nonlapsing account to be known as the recount administrative account. The account shall be used by the secretary of state for the administration of recounts under RSA 660. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, all fees which are paid to the secretary of state under RSA 660:1 shall be credited to this account. All fees which are credited to this account shall be continually appropriated to the secretary of state.

http://www.sos.nh.gov/rsa660.htm

Election Returns

659:71 When to Prepare Return. After the tabulation of votes has been completed and the result has been announced by the moderator as provided in RSA 659:70, the town or ward clerk shall prepare the election return in the presence of the other election officials.

659:72 Secretary of State to Prepare Return Blanks. Prior to any state election, the secretary of state shall prepare and distribute to each town, city, or ward clerk election return forms together with such instructions as the secretary of state shall deem necessary.

659:73 General Content of Return. The election return forms shall include, but not be limited to, the name of each person voted for and the number of votes cast, the number of affirmative and negative votes cast on any question submitted to voters, information relating to the number of voters and to the number and types of ballots cast at the election.

659:74 Preparing Return. The town or ward clerk shall prepare the election return in duplicate on the forms supplied by the secretary of state and shall sign and shall certify such returns.

659:75 Forwarding; Retaining Copies of Return. One copy of the election return shall be forwarded by the town or ward clerk to the secretary of state no later than the Monday following a state election unless the secretary of state orders them sooner. The other shall be kept by the town or city clerk and shall be open to public inspection at reasonable times.

659:76 Return from Unincorporated Place. As provided in RSA 668:7, the town clerk shall prepare and forward a return of the votes cast in his town by voters of unincorporated places, if any, in the same manner as provided in RSA 659:71 - 75.

http://www.sos.nh.gov/rsa659.htm

Federal Officers to Be Elected

653:2 Electors of the President and Vice-President. At the state general election in 1980 and at the state general election every fourth year thereafter, the voters of the state shall elect the number of electors of the president and vice-president of the United States to which the state is entitled.

653:3 United States Senators. At the state general election in l980 and at the state general election every sixth year thereafter and at the state general election in l984 and at the state general election every sixth year thereafter, the voters of the state shall elect one United States senator.

653:4 United States Representatives. At every state general election, the voters of each congressional district shall elect one United States representative.

Election of Delegates to Party Conventions

653:5 Delegates to National Party Conventions. At every presidential primary election, the voters of the state shall vote their preference for party candidates for president and thereby choose the delegates to each presidential nominating convention to which the state is entitled.

653:6 Delegates to State Party Conventions. At every state primary election, the voters in each state representative district shall elect delegates to each state party convention in accordance with the districts layed out in RSA 662:6. In order to be elected as a delegate to a state party convention, a person shall be a registered voter of the same party in the district from which the person is to be elected, and shall receive either a minimum of 10 votes or 10 percent of the votes cast in the district from which the person is to be elected, whichever is less.

Election Dates

653:7 State General Election. The state general election shall be held on the first Tuesday following the first Monday in November of every even-numbered year.

653:8 State Primary Election. The state primary election shall be held on the second Tuesday in September of every even-numbered year.

653:9 Presidential Primary Election. The presidential primary election shall be held on the second Tuesday in March or on a Tuesday selected by the secretary of state which is 7 days or more immediately preceding the date on which any other state shall hold a similar election, whichever is earlier, of each year when a president of the United States is to be elected or the year previous. Said primary shall be held in connection with the regular March town meeting or election or, if held on any other day, at a special election called by the secretary of state for that purpose.

653:10 Assumption of Office. Federal officers-elect shall assume office on the date set by the U.S. Constitution. State officers-elect shall assume office on the date set by the New Hampshire Constitution. County officers-elect shall assume office on the first Wednesday after the first Tuesday in January of the year following the state general election at which they were elected.

http://www.sos.nh.gov/rsa653.htm

[Carolab]

44. A link showing ALL the recount rules for each state

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/procedures_recount04.html

45. MIT Technology Review-The Real Problem with Voting

By Ted Selker
November 17, 2004

http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/04/11/wo_selker111704.asp?trk=nl

PDF Report: http://www.vote.caltech.edu/Reports/VotingMachines3.pdf

As co-director of the Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project (VTP), I have been involved in inventing new secure voting machines, designing better ballots, and analyzing problems in the overall voting experience. Concerns about opportunities for voting equipment fraud have always been central to debates about elections. The VTP’s analysis of elections has shown that registration problems, poor ballot design, and careleess polling place procedures dominate the way votes are lost. Now, people are concerned about the 2004 election; to help, we released a report showing that exit polls did not in fact predict that John Kerry would fare better than he actually did in Ohio polling stations that used electronic voting machines. I have enjoyed the opportunity to carefully watch elections at hundreds of polling places nationwide for the past three-and-a-half years. What I have observed is that grave errors of judgment and protocol are apparent almost everywhere, regardless of the voting method used. Even in a well-run election, a poll-watcher witnesses an array of problems.

A: Well, I don't want to write off legitimate questions about the integrity of the voting system. But turn the question around: Which is more likely -- that an exit polling system that has been consistently wrong and troubled turned out to be wrong and troubled again, or that a vast conspiracy carried out by scores and scores of county and state election officials was successfully carried off to distort millions of American votes? I think the Kerry campaign concluded that the former is what happened. But we'll keep our eyes open for hard evidence of abuse, and we won't be afraid to investigate if we see something significant.

[RedEagle]

47. Be wary of Ted Selker

He and Michael Shamos are the two, alleged computer scientists (I say that because neither of them specialize in security) who have been shilling for no paper for years.

Whenever the industry or organizations on the wrong side of the issue, like the top officers of the LWV (NOT the rank and file) needed to quote someone to shore up their no paper arguments, Selker and Shamos were the ones always quoted.

I believe one or both of these guys were in on the review of the SERVE military internet voting project- and never attended the meetings although that didn't stop them from giving their opinions.

The heavy lifting that got that turkey canned was done by others with some actual credentials that mattered.

Computer scientist does not equal qualified to be consulted in areas outside of their expertise.

Also remember that we need to get accounting professionals into the mix, something that is being obstructed at every turn, as is auditing.

49. I agree the article seems like propaganda for the Republican Taliban

I read the article myself, as I was trying to figure out a way to answer the original question of the thread such as how to get the media interested in this story.

When I first read the title I thought it would be a very well written article by the scientific community that would write about both sides of the issue.

I doubt very much anyone will find a media person that will want to do the research that is necessary to do a story on BBV. BBV, might be best to research it and write it, and then send it to the media to see if one of the media giants will duplicate it.

The media does not do research into stories like most people think they do, in fact they do basically nothing and just duplicate other stories.

The media is just a tool of the military-industrial-complex.

I personally think that the reason why our country has never invented very much that like it once did is because of the military-industrial-complex taking over the scientific community.

In my article on DU I go into it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1366529&mesg_id=1366987

No I guess the reason why I could not ever vote for a Republican is
because of the Republican Party being so militaristic. Republicans actually worship the A bomb.

Even when the scientists that created it such as Ralph Lapp said, that the creation of the bomb was the worst thing they ever did and that they think the A-Bomb should be dismantled the Republicans went nuts.

All the Republicans did from then was takeover the scientific community in America then turned it into a miliary-industrial-complex run by Army generals. With Republican Taliban Generals telling the scientific community what to invent and work on.

Then from the 40's on they went on to takeover all the political, educational, and business organizations as well.

Ralph Lapp an American physicist who, with Teller, built the first hydrogen bomb in 1949 describes why the bomb was such a failure in his book Kill and Overkill.

[Hobbes199]

48. Kick

Kicking.

[Eloriel]

50. message from hedda_foil

Got an email -- she asked me to thank you all profusely. Yesterday she spent 14 straight hours on the telephone and hasn't EVEN had a chance to check back here and today is looking no different.

She also asked if there's anyone available who can pull the info which can be found in these various links in answer to her specific questions into a nice, easy-to=-read Word table?

Anyone?

P.S. She also says that FLorida recounts WILL take place, which have to be done county-by-county and also "for cause." The Berkeley study will likely be used for those 3 counties -- or at least that's one of the things they're working on, of many.

There are a couple of other projects directly for hedda_foil and her Ballot Integrity Project and Help America Recount 527, if anyone's interested please let me know.

www.helpamericarecount.org

www.ballotintegrity.org/

[MsUSA]

51. I just love it here at DU.

How great is this place, where a question is asked a task requested, and boom, it's done. you all are just fantastic.

[Pepper32]

52. kick n/t