Corzine said Dems should vote for Repuke ideas if they are going to pass

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Sen Corzine said he was going to vote for Condi Rice. He was asked if she did a good job so far and Corzine said she was a disaster. He was then asked why not just vote against her. He said because there will be enough votes to confirm her so why bother.

Is this the new fightin' mad Democratic party? Vote for Repuke ideas and nominees because we're gonna lose anyway?

Wow I'm impressed.

[SilverSeraphim]

1. Perhaps this is a case of choosing his battles?

Trust me, nothing would piss the constituency off more than someone holding up the legislative process.

[wtmusic]

2. He wouldn't be holding anything up by his own admission

and would be doing the right thing, dammit.

It's Dems like Corzine that got us where we are.

[rawtribe]

3. Rolling over

and playing nice is pissing me off. We need an opposition party. I guess the Dem's ain't it.

[hfojvt]

4. casting a "no" vote is not the same as a filibuster

I remember and "Liberal Oasis" has mentioned again how the Republicans filibustered back in 1993. They sure paid the price in the 1994 elections too.
A vote against also gives you more credibility when you criticize her job performance later.
Bob Somerby says Condi is treated as an icon without flaws, and there is some risk in voting against an icon, but why not be the one to say: "the icon has no clothes"?

[Proud2BAmurkin]

5. True, voting against people he says are unqualified is a losing strategy

:shrug:

[goddess40]

12. The Dem's have been using that stupid argument for too long

We've let the right whittle this country away a little at a time by our side making that excuse - The right fights all the battles and we roll over for most of them. That's the reason this country is in such dire straight right now. The Dem's have to fight every battle, and then label the right whiners and bullies when they start the name calling.

Sorry but we've been playing nice-nice for too long, it's time to stand up for ourselves and the country like adults that mean business not like some battered housewife that wants to keep her egg money.

[Gloria]

6. How about NOT VOTING???

A vote of no confidence by not voting would be honest, at least...

Jeez, this is really putrid. Putrid.

Is this Reid's plan or are they all freelancing again????

[imenja]

7. They need to vote based on principle

but not oppose every Bush measure or appointee for the sake of it. They need to choose their battles carefully, but not roll over either.

[SilverSeraphim]

8. Put much better than mine, LOL!

[saracat]

9. Wow! And I thought he was a liberal. Maybe he is rolling over because

he was scared by how close it was in Jersey! This is CYA and fuck the people!

[fujiyama]

10. He's probably going to leave

Being in the minority in the senate really sucks.

He's probably going to run for governor. He's a good guy and his talent is probably wasted in the senate anyways. That said, I'm disappointed by this statement. It's important for Dems to still show some backbone...and give Bush's nominees hell.

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. Being in the minority is not all that powerless.

Dems use to know how to fight as a minority group. And quite effectively. They seem to have forgotten.

[fujiyama]

14. The extent

to which we are a minority party is new.

I don't recall when the last time was when the GOP had control of EVERY single branch of federal government. At least during Nixon and Reagan years, democrats had control of the House. During the Clinton years we had the power of the veto. It was enough to block a lot of crazy shit from the republicans.

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. There was a time, when I was very young, when I remember

the Dems making fierce speeches on the floor and making heavy inroads in committee meetings. I don't remember if it was the House or the Senate, but they were in the minority at the time. The media gave them equal time back then, despite their minority status, and it provided a stark contrast.

[ComerPerro]

13. Yeah. ... Great idea, Corzine

Fucking moron. Wasn't he paying attention this last election?

They attacked Kerry for "voting for the war" and then speaking against it.

This strategy makes no sense at all. Why vote for Rethug policies if you don't believe in them?

Sure, your vote won't mean shit. But why not either vote against it or abstain from voting on principle?

Then at least you have a right to criticize about the Rethugs' choices later on.

[NicRic]

16. Maybe after their policies become a diasaster...

their party wont be doing so great. Of course thats probably wishfull thinking, I mean look at what a terrible job bush has done , and yet he is elected to a second term.

[leesa]

17. She just allowed 9-11 to happen with prior knowledge of it.

She lied under oathe during the 9-11 commission. Fine job!

These people are evil...Dems and Repubs alike.

[AP]

18. Got a link? I'd like to hear his own explanation.

[welshTerrier2]

19. Senator Corzine is dead wrong ...

democrats are united and energized as never before ... and nothing will suck that energy dry faster than more appeasement of republicans ...

the "pick your battles" argument is bullshit ... every action taken by democrats in Washington is under significant scrutiny by the legions of democrats who fought so hard in this election ... i don't think there's much margin left for more disappointment ...

democrats need to understand that, being in the minority, we will lose almost every battle in the Congress ... but the REAL battle is how we motivate and energize our own troops ...

trust me, Senator Corzine is dead wrong if he thinks the energized base of the Democratic Party will respond well to rolling over and going along to get along ... we want to fight the neo-con bastards on each and every battle ... this is about building a movement of activists within the party, both left wing and moderates, and not about picking your battles ...

time is short; the party is at risk ...