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PurpHaze69 Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:34 PM
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Gen. Clark
just might be the straw that breaks the camels back. I believe he would have the best chance of anyone running to not just beat Bush, but beat him in a landslide victory. All the tough talk, "bring em on" and posing in a flight suit on the aircraft carrier that "AWOL" did is gonna come back to bite him in the ass if this 4 star General and Purple Heart receipient decides to run. On top of that, he's a Rhodes Scholar from Oxford. Kinda like someone else we all know that spent the past 8 years in the White House. God, I hope he runs.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:35 PM
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1. Now you've done it.
<ducking>
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:40 PM
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2. Besides his politics I like his LIKABLE, OPEN FACE!
Edited on Wed Sep-03-03 04:42 PM by glarius
:)
edit: I'm not American and all I care is that he's a Democrat and NOT BUSH!!!!
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PurpHaze69 Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:42 PM
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3. Although, I have to be honest with ya,
I would much rather have it be Clark-President, Dean-Vice, instead of the other way around.
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Brazosboomer Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:02 PM
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11. Me, too
To be honest, I don't think it matters diddle-squat who the veep nominee is during the actual race. Races aren't won by who the second man on the slate is (unless he has a hacking cough and significant chaffing). Look, this country elected Dan Quayle veep.

I do, however, think a strong veep can help win a second term.

Clark has more experience with leadership and dealing with grand and large matters - he was Supreme Commander of NATO, for Pete's Sake - that's kinda like being King of the World.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 06:05 PM
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20. Hey Glarius! You started Wesley-mania on DU!
Thanks! :7
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 06:29 PM
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21. ORCHESTRATED "Clark-Mania"
In my opinion, the whole "Clark thing" has been orchestrated by the Draft Clark people. Typical boiler-room politics. I have decided to pay no attention to all of these silly "I worship the General" posts. By the way, there are some longtime DUers who support Clark - I'm not talking about them, obviously. I get sick when I read another poster with 23 posts saying, "I'm not sure who I'm going to support." BUT, by post 31 -- there is a HUGE Clark banner at the bottom of their posts.

Orchestrated - in MY opinion.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:17 PM
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25. Where do ya get
those HUGE Clark banners?
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 06:53 PM
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23. I DID?
I remember once, early on, saying something complimentary about him but that's about it!
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:55 AM
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26. Actually I remember saying he impressed me in that he was concerned
about the way the Bush government was alienating many of the U.S.A.'s former allies. As a Canadian I am concerned that we get back to our former good relations with our neighbours to the south. Also it would be a welcome change to have a person as President who is intelligent and informed about the world. Wasn't Clark a Rhodes Scholar? My post #23 sounded like I was being dismissive and I didn't mean it to be.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:42 PM
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4. Over/Under Is 7.5 Posts
Before someone bashes Clark.

:eyes:

BTW, welcome to DU, PurpHaze69!

DTH
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:55 PM
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9. I'll take the Under for $50 American, DTH
:-)

Welcome to DU, PurpHaze69!!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:44 PM
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5. I like him
Dean/Clark, Clark/Dean, doesn;t really matter much to me. Hell, Kerry/Clark would get me active and I really don't like Kerry after the Iraq war vote (but Clark on the ticket would get me active).
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:48 PM
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6. The real man for the job is... Dennis!
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PurpHaze69 Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:50 PM
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8. He's a cornrod compared
to Clark.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:04 PM
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13. Kucinich is no Cornrod.
I admire Dennis, always have, always will.

But, speaking of Cornrods...



:-)
Jennifer
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:17 PM
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15. i like the pic
it look like uncle cheney just crapped his pants :evilgrin:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 03:53 PM
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30. a cornrod?
Excuse me you know how hard this man has been fighting against the war and Bush.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 04:49 PM
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7. As far as I am concerned he is just one more candidate we could be proud
to vote for.

All of our candidates have more integrity in their little toes than GWB has in his whole family, genetic and political.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:01 PM
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10. Clark is a mighty player!
I'm not a Clark fan, but if he does step into the race it'll be hard to ignore him. He has the cred, the look, and the talk. Matching him up against Bush would be hillarious as well as great for the Dems. Can someone imagine awol fratty who looks like he's been beat with a bat vs. well dressed, well spoken general with a golden smile.

I'm hopeing for a Clark/Braun ticket. Yeah maybe that's way out there but I'd be exited. Clark/Kerry is also very good.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:04 PM
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12. Clark/Kucinich would win in a landslide
Everything the Democratic party needs to be the majority party again. Clark/Kucinich is strong on national security and defense, strong on civil rights and the rule of law, strong on economic justice and a fair society. Expect a ticket like that to win a landslide of 40 states.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:12 PM
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14. If Clark teamed with Kucinich
I would instantly develop respect for him and get behind them both.

I like Dean but have some reservations:

Example
1. the selector page claims that Dean was opposed to the war, but I recall that he voted for it. WTF??? I thought Kucinich was the only one to put his vote where his mouth is. No Dean claims he's anti war after voting for it?

2. my wife told me Dean grew up in the Hamptons - this has the negative connotation of people with too much money and detachment.
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:20 PM
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16. voted for it?
he couldn't have he was the governor of vermont until a few years ago, he couldn't have voted for the war resolution since he wasn't in congress
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:23 PM
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17. Dean grew up on Park Avenue, and his family has roots in Smith Barney.
Edited on Wed Sep-03-03 05:25 PM by tjdee
HIs family's business was the Wall Street scene, and one of his great whatevers was a founder of Smith Barney.
His parents belonged to the Maidstone Club, which is really exclusive (if memory serves correctly, they wouldn't even let Clinton play golf there--AFTER he was President).
Howard was a Wall Streeter until he realized his calling was medicine.

But, Dean didn't vote for the war because he was governor of Vermont, not a member of Congress.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 06:33 PM
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 10:12 PM
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24. TJ is not a liar. She could be wrong about something..
Edited on Wed Sep-03-03 10:13 PM by Kahuna
and would be the first to adit it if she is. But she is not a liar. It's also against DU rules to call another DUer a liar.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 03:51 PM
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29. Thanks Kahuna...
Edited on Thu Sep-04-03 03:52 PM by tjdee
Didn't even see this until just now...hope that Newsweek link is enough to "redeem" myself... :eyes:
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 03:45 PM
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28. Nice try, here's the link. Is NEWSWEEK good enough for you?
Oh PLEASE with your childish nonsense.

"After a post-college year skiing in Aspen, Dean returned to New York in 1972 to become the next (fourth) Dean—stretching back to Herbert Hollingshead Dean, a founder of Smith Barney—to be an investment banker."
http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/937672.asp?0sl=-21
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:32 PM
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19. wouldn't Clark/Kucinich be amazing?
I can't imagine a more winnable ticket for the Democratic party, and the coattails would win us Congress. Clark has wide appeal to most Americans, and Kucinich appeals to our base, and is the most credible candidate on labor issues.

This could really happen, and the next 20 years in the United States would be much better off for it.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:25 PM
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18. The more the merrier
We have some excellent excellent candidates. There are a few that I would be very proud to support. Clark getting into the race is icing on the cake. Each and every one of them make the Bush Crime Family look like...well, a bunch of incompetent criminals. :toast:
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shatoga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 02:31 PM
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27. beat Bush in a landslide victory
Edited on Thu Sep-04-03 02:32 PM by shatoga
yes!
that is entirely the point.
A Democrat with impeccable military dredentials.
How that must scare the fake Liberals who seek only to give Bush 4 more years.

by supporting sure losers!
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 05:02 PM
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31. I hope he runs, too.
I'm very excited about a Clark entry.

I just hope he's as good as his hype, but I'm liking him very much.
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