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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:26 AM
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When will these jerks be satisfied?
They have the whole government why are they still sending me these obnoxious e-mails? :grr:

Got a long diatribe from a wingnut acquaintence ranting about how we aren't a Democracy, we are a Republic - it perports to quote founding fathers and actually does quote Robert Welch, founder of John Birch society.

I know I should ignore it but if anybody knows the e-mail (I won't post it unless someone asks - you know the kind of crap it is) and has a Snopes like rebuttal handy I would sure appreciated it.

Its title is "A Republic, If You Can Keep It"
by John F. McManus
:puke:
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:39 AM
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1. Yes, we are supposed to be a "government of laws, not men".
--that's what a republic is. (Or was, till this administration started ignoring laws it found inconvenient.)

Pure democracy would be "majority rule". We don't have that--in the sense that there are rights the minority retains that cannot be taken away by the majority. (Especially important to note when the voting "majority" in this country was 59 million people, and the "minority" was 56 million.) Our Constitution states this explicitly.

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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:49 AM
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2. Yes I realize the fact of the structure
but this essay twists it in a sickening way. I also googled the author - he's the CURRENT pres of the JBS. I just want something to send back to this guy that is factual and a little "in your face". I haven't finished Lakoff's book yet so I'm not ready to write on my own ;)
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:55 AM
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10. If 51% of the electorate can vote to ban gay marriage and overturn
roe v wade etc. I would call that democracy at its worst. Seems like a real republic would stand up for the rights of the minority, especially if the constitution stands for equality before the law.
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:51 AM
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3. never(eom)
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:51 AM
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4. Never. eom.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:56 AM
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5. The Chinese have a "Republic", too. Iraq had one as well.
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 10:57 AM by Cat Atomic
We have a Democratic Republic.

What's the point of that argument, exactly? Is it just to belittle the word "Democrat"? Seems a little 3rd grade-ish to me, but I suppose that hasn't stopped them before.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 12:07 PM
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11. actually after I rag on the guy
for sending me crap from the JBS I think this is a good comment. Thanks.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:01 AM
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6. They want you converted
Kool-Aid, getyerassovertoIraq ("cuz us repukes don't do that"), or dead.
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RUDUing2 Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:01 AM
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7. they will only be satisfied when we are living in a fundamentalist
christian theocracy.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:02 AM
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8. Sore winners!
Never satisfied.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:24 AM
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9. The entire Republican mentality can be summed up in 3 words:
It's never enough.
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