If the recounts produce a Kerry electoral lead won't he need money

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to proceed to unseat the counterfeit pretender?

Is this thing so over that he won't need the money he reportedly still has in the bANK?

[Nicholas_J]

1. Well once the votes are certified

Bush is in. All that can be done is to prove that there was purposeful fraud approved of by the White House, and this wopuld lead to a possible attempt at impeachemtn but given the state of tCongress, they are likely to refuse to do so even if criminal intent could be proven. Look at how they are trying to protect Tom DeLay. Even if he is found guilty in Texas, this will not necesarily unseat him. Unless the sentenceing of DeLay results in jail time.

The only benefit Democrats would have is a moral vo\ictory for the next election if it can be proven conclusively that the republicans fixred the election to result in disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters.
While there wil be a recount in Ohio, it will nmot occur until after the curetn votes are certified, so even if it is proven Kerry won the state, it will not change the election results. Priving who did it might result in removing BUsh, but not the Republicans.

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2. It's a big if, I admit

but aren't there expenses that might occur IF we achieve what we all hope beyond hope for?

Also, did all of the candidates spend all of the money he sent them? What are those candidates doing with the money?

[GraphicQueen]

3. Kerry Mulls Lawsuit Against Swiftvet O'Neill

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/18/95310.shtml

Failed presidential candidate John Kerry is considering filing a libel suit against the leader of the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, John O'Neill, whose book "Unfit for Command" is credited with capsizing Kerry's Vietnam War-based campaign.


"I don't know if they will actually go forward," a member of Kerry's inner circle told New York Post's Page Six column, edited by Richard Johnson. "But consideration is serious. If Kerry plans on running again in 2008 — and I'm hearing he will — it would make sense that he'd file the suit."

Co-written by Jerry Corsi, "Unfit" sold more than 800,000 copies, much to the chagrin of top Democrat strategists, who threatened legal action against bookstores that carried it.

Attempts to suppress the book only backfired, catapulting "Unfit" to the top of the New York Times' best-seller list for five weeks in a row.

Sen. Kerry's poll numbers plummeted in the summer when Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (now part of the combined Swiftvets and POWs for Truth) launched TV ads attacking his record in Vietnam and afterward.

One ad detailed Kerry's leadership of the anti-war movement and offered criticisms by former American POWs. The POWs alleged that Kerry had betrayed them and the country by his actions and false claims of war atrocities.

Kerry was particularly fearful of these allegations, and his campaign launched a full counterattack when another group of vets produced a documentary directed by Carlton Sherwood titled "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal."

After Sinclair Broadcast Group announced plans to air the documentary, Kerry's campaign and allies organized boycotts against Sinclair, and even threatened Sinclair with loss of its FCC licenses if Kerry were elected.

Other groups close to Kerry's campaign threatened shareholder lawsuits against Sinclair, and criticism of the TV group caused the company's share value to drop at one point by $140 million.

In the end, Sinclair broadcast only brief clips of "Stolen Honor" as part of a larger documentary it produced.

NewsMax Media Inc. decided "Stolen Honor" was of critical importance and held significant news value, and aired the documentary nationally on the PAX TV network and other stations the weekend before Election Day.

In the end, the criticism of Kerry's activities after he returned from Vietnam may have been crucial in his defeat.


Swift Boat Veterans for Truth spent more than $25 million on TV advertising. Leading Democrats, including Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, have credited the controversy for causing Kerry's defeat.

But the New York Post's report suggests the controversy might not die, thanks to Kerry.

Just last Sunday, in comments covered exclusively by NewsMax.com, O'Neill said that if Kerry attempted a comeback in 2008, Swiftvets and POWs for Truth would be there to expose him once again.

"If he comes back and runs for president again, we'll come down out of the mountain - all of us," O'Neill told WABC Radio's Monica Crowley.

'Just Apologize'


Asked about the possibility of a libel suit from Kerry, O'Neill didn't sound fazed.


"It would be a lot smarter of Kerry to just apologize," O'Neill told Page Six. "No lawsuits are going to change the testimony he gave and the impact it had on POWs."

Earlier in the campaign, O'Neill dared Kerry to sue him. "I invite him to sue me for libel," he told Crowley.

"If he was actually in Cambodia on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, he should sue me. If, in fact, those other five boats, on March the 13, <1969>, if they all fled like he did, instead of staying like he knows they did, he should sue me."

O'Neill continued, "If he didn't wound himself with a grenade, causing sort of a rice-fanny wound, and then reported it to the Navy as a water mine - if he didn't do that on March 13, he should sue me."

Kerry was reportedly "enraged over 'Unfit'" and furious at campaign aides for not responding right away.

His spokesman David Wade told Page Six that he hadn't heard about any proposed lawsuit, but promised to look into it.

[GraphicQueen]

4. I didn't know where to...

post this since I can't post any lead posts. Why is it that the Republicans are such sore losers anyway?

[Nicholas_J]

10. I hope he dies carry though with suing Swift Boat

A win would create a legal precedent that would put a serious damper on Republican Rovian smear campaigns in which Bush like candidates use third party organizations to attack opponents while claiming to have nothing to do with them.


Using ones personal opinions of events that one was not present to witness and presnting them as truth is one of the simplest definitions of libel available. In the future this would result in ads that would have to read, we werent actualy present, and we served somplace in Vietnam at the same time Kerry did, but we thinnk he didnt deserve those medals. THis would harm the opposition mre thn the candidate

[Piperay]

11. Even worse than being sore losers is

that they are sore 'winners'. :-(

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12. I'm a little sore

:mad:

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5. He could legally fund this with his own money

newsmax! brother! Better edit this to four paragraphs per rules. Or better yet . . .

[GraphicQueen]

7. I apologize...

I am wondering if you would mind reposting it for me so it is done properly? Thanks

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[JI7]

6. that's why he saved the money, but if it looks like he wont need to spend

it on legal fees then he could use it towards funding democrats who run in 2006 which i heard was the plan.

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9. I think that 2006 is very important.

I remember how effective our party was in modifying the agenda of Reagan and Bush when we held majorities.