How Bush will announce the draft

[chookie]

Yes, he has been denying that he has intentions of bringing it back. He had to lie.

Notice however that he keeps saying, "I believe the troop numbers are adequate. If I am advised by our military leaders that we need more, I will send them." It's been another rhetorical code word.

So guess what's coming?

The Pentagon strategists are going to advise him that they need more troops. Loads more.

Bush will lie and say it was something he HAD to do, at the advice of the military. He's trying to pretend that his hands are clean, and that this is one of those difficult choices he has to make. BULLSHIT! What contempt he has for us.

Soon they are going to have their world war. What fun. Every day of horror is just one day closer to the Rapture, right, so I guess I should cheer up /sarcasm off

I can't guess what the timetable is though....

[TwentyFive]

1. Not for a little while....probably a bit after Feb 2005 is my guess.

He needs some development to change the landscape first. Maybe the announcement that Iran is developing Nucular (sic) warheads.

[mom-mad-about-bush]

65. They just said that yesterday.....

Iran is a nuclear threat to it's neighbors and to the US.

[amber dog democrat]

2. I hope the RAPTOR does come, and carries them ALL away in its talons.

When this is all said and done, I'd like to see Rummie and his pals stood up against an wall. But hey, we are fighting evil that kills at the whim of a hat.
Must be an awfull evil hat at that.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. He declares Iran and Syria have nuclear weapons POINTED RIGHT AT US!

And we need more troops to quell the threat.

[Massacure]

4. Conscripted soldiers aren't nearly as good

It'll turn Iran erm, Iraq into a shooting gallery.

[atreides1]

17. Why Would Bush Care

And Bush and the Neocons are concerned about this, why???

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. The draftees of WW1, WW2, Korea and Vietnam were just as

good as the volunteers. Those who couldn't cut it washed out early. Many draftees even stayed to become lifers. Don't denigrate the capabilities of those veterans, please.

The whole "need an all-volunteer military" theme is a crock. The difference between the draftees and the volunteers is that the volunteers, whatever their reason for volunteering, are far less likely to be whistleblowers, to report violations of military and international law. Abu Grahib could not have happened if half the soldiers were draftees. The volunteer force heightens the 'us against them' outlook of the military.

If Bushco is reluctant to activate the draft, it is only because they fear the democratizing effect that draftees will have on the military.

That said, there will be a draft. Sooner, than later, just as soon as a new Pearl Harbor can be arranged.

[Dzimbowicz]

57. Good Points!

[mom-mad-about-bush]

66. Since a vote for Bush is a vote supporting the war.....

shouldn't they just ask the "red states" to "volunteer" to be drafted. Obviously this would be more than enough people.

[genieroze]

80. Naw, many in the red states didn't vote for him either.

Personally I think the vote was totally rigged and Kerry won in a landslide. I think B*sh should appeal to his supporters to enlist though. Go B*sh supporters your tin god needs you

[__Inanna__]

91. Not true

I have three siblings, all of whom have children of a draftable age, who voted for Bush, and this was in a BLUE state. Me, I have no children, live in a RED state, and I voted for Kerry. Nutcases are nutcases, no matter what state they live in. My particular state went 55 % to Bush, 44% to Kerry, so there is little value at calling a state either blue or red. It's just another way to divide us and create the distraction Bushco needs to carry on the evil agenda. It's not us vs. the red voters, it's us vs. the powers that be.

[NikolaTeslaRocks]

83. Red States

I live in the red state. I dont want my kids drafted nor do I want that SOB in office unless he is running for the dog pound. No wait, he would be too cruel to the animals. He might even torture them for fun. Bush does not act like a christian. I dont care how often he prays.

I dont want the draft. They even want my daughter for goodness sake.
Neither of my kids are safe unless they dont register.

I hope everyone wakes up in 12 yrs. before my son turns 18

[Is It Fascism Yet]

89. Kerry won, you keep forgetting that, don't blame the peeps, they voted ker

[azoth]

49. shrubbie doesn't care. Fodder for the War Machine is just that, kwim?

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[Nag Champa]

7. Brand new Tico? Sending them to Costa Rica?

Pura Vida, 'mano...

[Arianrhod]

20. Por la vida. . . . :) n/t

[alfredo]

45. They will find those who didn't sign up at 18, arrest them then

give them the choice between jail or the military.

[Nag Champa]

6. I believe they rotate in Spring.

Seems like a good time to review troop requirements.

Wonder what crazy Orwellian name they will give the draft though.

[gWbush is Mabus]

10. The Patriotism Act

[amber dog democrat]

13. maybe " aggresive recruitment"

I remember a line from Voltare's CANDIDE where in the army, " they hanged a few to encourage the rest " .

[chookie]

21. His Chimperial Highness talks about "Our Generational Challenge"

Sounds high-minded, like "Clear Skies Initiative," etc.

But it is a code word for world war.

I think he's HOPING the economy will still be so bad that he will not have to demand a draft, but in case people would rather live simply than try to "improve" themselves by getting training opportunities in the Army -- looks like The Chimperor is going to start hijacking young people.

[emulatorloo]

8. on a Friday, at the end of the news day, and it will have a benign name

Probably first of the year sometime. After the inauguration.

Because why should Bush keep his campaign promises? He has his mandate. . .

[eleny]

11. Yeah - like some job or job training opportunity

n/t

[billyoc]

15. Welfare-->Workfare-->Warfare...

:eyes:

[emulatorloo]

24. New Millenium Peace Corps EOM

[eleny]

44. That would make a great bumper sticker n/t

[Taxloss]

14. "Selective service"?

Start with a few doctors, nurses and engineers to, y'know, help Iraqis in their hospitals and restore power supplies.

Then a few more.

Then regular troops, "because we've already sent 2000 doctors and engineers, and no one complained".

[Paranoid_Portlander]

30. I agree. A frog-in-hot-water approach.

Regular draftees could involve a very few unlucky numbers, at first, chosen by lottery from the 20-year olds only, then very gradually increasing.

[eleny]

9. Are there troops around the world that can be pulled in?

Like troops in Europe? How many are out there that can be reassigned to Iraq?

[Taxloss]

23. He could shut down the airbases in the UK.

No one would complain. They're only there to bomb Soviets in Germany and the North Atlantic. And there aren't any Soviets left.

[napi21]

12. He'll NEVER call it a draft! Something else surprises me!!!

I wore myt US Navy shirt to the grocery store yesterday. The check out clerk asked me who do I know in the Navy? My don, I said. SHE said she signed up yesterday! She said she was going to bootcamp at the Great Lakes facility (same one my son attended 18 years ago.) I aksed her what school they promised her. She said she wanted nursing, but they had so many in that one, so she's going to one in aircraft.

The thing that surprised me the most was that they have SO MANY enlisting!!! I guess the Navy has a bit of an advantage because Iraq isn't near any water. Are we just crazy here on DU? Is there really a lot of support for enlisting in the military out there and we just aren't accepting it?

[Taxloss]

16. As for the Navy

Iran has a long coastline, and if you want to keep the supply route to Iraq open through the narrow Persian Gulf ...

[amber dog democrat]

18. Navy is better - if you have to choose.

Maybe the Air Force is best, but in the Navy you are very unlikely to get into combat.
This is especially true if you have some kind of education or skill.

In 1970 I got stationed on a destroyer in Galveston Texas of all places.

go figure.

[Taxloss]

46. Protecting the US against the mighty Cuban threat!!!!!

eom

[tsuki]

74. Unless you're a medic.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

77. oh, you were a draft dodger

in the words of Sinclair Broadcasting's Mark Hyman. Earlier this year, he proclaimed Kerry a draft dodger for joining the Navy.

So how long do you think the country can last, huh?

Moving right along, some Navy personnel have their boots on the ground in Iraq. Hospital corpsmen, of course, and Seabees as well.

Navy Unit Discovers Perils In Task of Rebuilding Fallujah

>>
....
The assault on Fallujah that began the night of Nov. 8 was aimed at breaking the insurgents' grip on a city they had controlled since April. It was the biggest military operation in Iraq since the invasion in March 2003, involving armored vehicles, artillery, airpower and thousands of troops. It was accompanied by a pledge from U.S. officials to rebuild the city after the offensive was complete.

But keeping that promise -- in a city rigged with booby-traps and explosives, with insurgents still fighting back in some neighborhoods -- may prove more difficult than anticipated, as the Seabees discovered on Tuesday. Their mission was supposed to be fairly simple -- get in, take some measurements, snap a few pictures, get out. That didn't happen.
....
<<

Everybody's armed and wearing a flak jacket. Pretty interesting article.

BTW, there's a special term for hospital corpsmen who serve with Marines. What is it?

[megatherium]

78. Maybe not.

If we go to war against Iran, any ship near Iran will be very vulnerable to their silkworm missiles. I read somewhere that when Britain went to war against Argentina to recover the Falklands, the Argentines had an inventory of only five silkworm missiles. They sank two battleships with them. Iran has hundreds of these, including certain missiles designed to evade our defenses (radar-controlled guns).

[MadHound]

28. Actually he might,

Considering that recruitment numbers are down across the board. If I remember correctly, I believe that the Army missed it's yearly goal by something like thirteen percent.

With the mess and muddle in Iraq, and it looking ever more like a sure thing we're going into Iran, a draft is not only a possiblity, but a real probablity

[chicagiana]

33. Sucks that nurses can't get training ...

Because nursing is one of the few areas that are truly in demand right now!!!

[maveric]

19. He'll claim that we need more active military guarding us stateside.

With all the troops in the ME there arent enoungh here on US soil. So to strengthen our domestic forces a draft will be instituted. Once that happens and the numbers go up, something will spark in Iran or Syria and those "domestic" troops will de deployed to harms way.

[chookie]

26. Oh great. Brownshirts.

Maybe they would have a recruiting drive for service within the US. Sure would be popular in the South, which has traditionally been especially eager to serve in the military, but may have special reasons to want to volunteer for "Homeland Security."

They'd LOVE to have a chance to kill some nigras and Yankees and homos.

Yikes -- what came to mind was the "Home Guard" from the movie "Cold Mountain."

Welcome to the future.

[tjdee]

25. TERRORIST ATTACK.

Won't have problems drafting kids if there's another terrorist attack. It'll be something Bush "*has*" to do. After 9/11, what, 90% was for the invasion of Afghanistan?

That's my terrible terrible prediction--that Bush won't announce it until there's another attack.

:scared:

Note, I am NOT saying that Bush will manufacture this attack.
I am NOT saying that.

[napi21]

29. He better hope there's not another terrorist attack! He & Cheney

said they were the only ones who could keep the people safe from that! Even though none of us believed that, lots of people did! That would be his downfall!!!!

[chookie]

34. No. They have the spin already planned.

Of course it's all bullshit.

Now they say: No further attacks prove that Bush is a great leader who has protected the American people.

After Sept 11 the Sequel they will say: This attack proves that Bush has been right all along about how dangerous this enemy is, therefore, we must obediently fight along side him in Iran, and Syria, and Jordan, to make sure bin Laden does not strike us again.

How many dead Americans is it going to take to get Americans to think about what president Pinhead has gotten us into?

[Kazak]

43. But now...

they don't need to win any elections...

:scared:

[napi21]

47. Shrub doens't, but the Pubs do! Do you really think Rove is going to walk

away? O dpibt it!!! He's built a very good reputation. Whoever the Pubs decide to run in 2008, Rove will command a very large paycheck to run the campaign!

[natrat]

79. elections are no more in this land

these people have won game set and match

[Javaman]

36. I agree, I posted something about just the same thing a while back..

The draft will happen after he lets another terrorist attack occur.

He will grab the nations worried attention with the following lines, "Good evening my fellow Americans, my hopes and prayer go out to the latest innocent victims in this recent tragic attack in (name your city). We knew that they would attack again, but as hard as our intelligence agency's work, they were unable to predict where and when the next attack would occur. Tragically, it has happened again, in the vein of 9/11, we shall be resolute and filled with resolve.
In times like these, times of war, (although it hasn't been declared), hard choices have to be made, that's why I have spent days talking to my cabinet, my pastor and my friends to make the following difficult decision, (big deep sign of regret) I have contacted our selective service board to start drawing up plans for a limited skills draft. A skills draft is required to fill the gaps in our military. We need our American knowhow and willpower to help our military success in the global war on terror. We need your help. Every American is now threatened. blah blah blah, bullshit bullshit bullshit good night and god bless you all..."

Que the music...

"And it's 5,6,7 open up those pearly gates, I don't give a damn, next stop is eyeee-ran...there ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee! we're all gonna die!"

[chookie]

40. Your speech is good enough for Rove to cut and paste

I think some of us understand these motherfuckers so well that we accurately predict what they will do.

We're the free press -- what's still left....

[napi21]

48. An articulate Dem will be able to show this scam for what it is!

BS!!!! What we need to do is find the articulate Dem!

[chookie]

50. If **I** were in the Senate...

...I would lay my career down on the line to stop these motherfuckers.

When they document Condi's incompetence during her confirmation, they will be accused of sexism and racism, and not being "progressive" like George W.

When they document facts supporting the theory that he is totally bonkers and the agent of a foreign nation during Wolfowitz's confirmation hearings (I predict he will be promoted), they will be accused of anti-Semitism, and not being "tolerant" like George W.

When they document Gonzalez' war crimes during his confirmation hearings, they will be accused of hating minorities, rather than giving themn opportunities to advance, like George W.

If anyone calls bullshit on Rick Santorum, they will be called "anti-Catholic." etc etc

In the past, Democrats cave to this bullshit. It worked for Clarence Thomas (his brazenly hypocritical "high-tech lynching of uppity negro" speech), so why not all these other jerks and criminals? Bank on it. And bank on the stupid Democrats for not being ready for this AGAIN!

There will be a few eloquent brave fighters, like Senator Byrd, but none of them have the guts to fight these motherfuckers, and call them on their bullshit. I'd call them on their bullshit, and risk everything.

[Javaman]

56. I see your point but it won't work, we have a malaprop in the white house

that speaks in sound bites, do you think someone who is actually articulate will change their minds?
We need elmer fudd with a barny rubble attitude educated by gomer pile, but that will be hard to find since the repukes already got him and put him in the white house.

[bunny planet]

58. Any guesses where this next terrorist attack will take place?

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

[RaleighNCDUer]

38. You BETTER not be saying that.

You never know who's listening.

[chookie]

41. Bin Laden has said he will strike again

Although I think bin Laden is smart enough to know that His Chimperial Majesty is doing a fantastic job of destroying America all by himself, that bin Laden :

1) is a man of his word, and has said he will attack again.
2) has a flair for the dramatic and the ego to attempt the detonation of a primitive nuclear device within the US.

But people need to understand that Bin Laden is playing a great game of chess, while Bush is just playing high-stakes poker, and that OBL has a long-term strategy that he feels can win. He plans to draw us into an unescapable quagmire and bleed us dry, blood and treasure. Hell, it worked against the Soviets in Afghanistan, and eventually brought *that* evil empire down, so why not this one?

And Bush is going to hand this prize to him.

Very very very very sad addendum to your prediction: Sept 11 the Sequel will not see the dramatic worldwide sympathy for the US that the first one did.

[charlie]

27. A monstrous calamity

that whips up hysteria for vengeance, say, a massacre in the green zone, can "force" him to reinstate the draft with popular support.

And here's a way he can avoid needing a draft -- after elections, get the sock puppet du jour to demand the US to leave Iraq. He respects the wishes of the newborn democracy and allows soldiers 6 months recovery before deployment to Iran.

[chicagiana]

31. It will be announced as a "jobs program'

Yes, all of you out there who are unemployed. We're going to have a lottery to gift you with jobs!!!! Food and uniform provided. Health and life insurance provided. Some travel may be required.

[chookie]

35. And it will give cheerful headlines

Previously, employed civilian Americans and Americans serving in the military were counted differently

Sometime back in the 80s, they were all lumped together in the same group as "employed" Americans.

So -- when His Chimperial Majesty gets his draft, Wolf Blitzer will be able to crow proudly that employment has dramatically risen in the second Bush adminstration! Hooray! His economic policies are working!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. FOIA papers posted repeteadly here

time line is for them to be ready to fully test the system by March 15, 2005

An AP sotry that ran for SIX hours on June 15, 2004 had the target date for full activation as June 15th. 2005

They are on track for that

You now have the time line

Oh and TWO wickets have been hit, quite possibly a third.

1.- SSS is now staffed

2.- Correlation of records of schools and SSS boards

3.- Man was given choice, jail or miliary for a small drug offense (drug free environment is out the window and he only qualifies for the Infantry)

[chookie]

37. Thanks

I would have guessed it was going to be soon, because, if anything, these batards act boldly and swiftly. Shock and Awe all around. People can't keep up with the never-ending waves of totalitarianism striking us. They have to keep us constantly off balance so we don't have a chance to think.

[telamachus]

63. YOU ARE VERY WRONG

the sss draft boards ARE NOT Staffed!!!!!!!!!

[underseasurveyor]

71. "He who establishes his argument by noise and command

shows that his reason is weak."

Oh my so I guess that really does means you know what yer talkin' about.
You YELLED :eyes:

Sorry but alot of us have been keeping track of this for a loooooong time because we have draft age children.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

39. With his usual constipated smirk.

Surrounded by stern looking generals who won't admit thier ineptititude in Iraq. Plenty of of flags though to make it OK with the "moderates".

[chookie]

42. "No more Viet Nams!"

No sir. We ain't NEVER gonna admit we're losing this time.

These folks have been hankering for another Big One since the 50s. They were hoping to go nuclear with USSR and China, but can't now -- so now they have to fight WWIII against "terror". By golly, it can last forever. Good to the last drop dead.

Bush's Foreign Policy: 1 part Book of Revelation, 3 parts Kilkenney Cats.

[HeeBGBz]

51. Manditory volunteerism.

eom

[Danger Duck]

52. Maybe he'll forgo the draft

and just have an old fashion crusade.

[shayes51]

53. "Compassionate Conscription"

[Booster]

54. Another Dem friend of mine mentioned last night that when we

had the draft we didn't have such a problem with gangs. I really don't remember if we had gangs or not when we had the draft - my friend said one way to straighten out the gangs is to have a draft. Any one remember?

[Ilsa]

59. How do you get them to register?

Just curious.

[Edgewater_Joe]

55. Wanna Bet Blue Staters and Kids In School Get Drafted First?

Think about how THAT would drive an even deeper wedge into the country.

[WarrenL]

60. My thoughts

(first time posting, I've been lurking for a month now)

I've got three schools of thought as to how a draft could occur. I'll list them from least to most probably

1. Start with a Selective Services draft, where we call in specific skill sets such as nurses, doctors, computer techs, and so on. It'll slippery slope down to needing grunts, but we'll be walked to that path and it still will have a name besides draft most likely.

2. There's a terrorist attack in the US. Like some have stated here earlier, if no terrorist attack hits, Bush can say he did his job. If one does hit, then it's easy for him to say "We've got to ratchet up security some more" and more freedoms go along with a massive push for asking the American people to accept the necessity of a draft.

3. A terrorist attack hits an ally or an "on the fence" country. This would (no pun intended) kill two birds with one stone. It'd make the people of America see how the terrorists are going after anyone like mad dogs and how we need to draft to stop the threat, and secondly it'd have the effect of bringing more into the "coalition"

Only problem with #3 is that if their is any...ummmm...coverup a la 9/11, the other country would be more likely to pursue it instead of burying it.

Just my thoughts

[RaleighNCDUer]

61. And good thoughts, if disturbing, they are.

Welcome to DU.

[superconnected]

62. how long does the military enlist for?

If it's 4 years, then after 2 years, wouldn't it average out to half have completed their terms. With that, wouldn't 1/4 of our troops be able to get out or re-enlist every year?

[regnaD kciN]

85. I think it's generally three years...

...with an additional five years in the reserves, for an eight-year committment overall. Remember that, during that remaining five-year period, the government can call you back to active duty any time they see a need.

[newyawker99]

72. Hi WarrenL!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[mom-mad-about-bush]

64. I agree.....did you hear the little slip about Iran being

a nuclear threat to America? As long as war is so profitable to Bush and his friends.....we will never know peace. I do have a different theory about the draft though.....I feel the "republican agenda" is to establish a "mandatory military" like Israel. How could people protest then????? Everyone would be required to put in their time for the freedom of our country....right???? They also want to be able to enlist anyone with the education or knowledge they need for a particular assignment....regardless of their age, etc.

[raysr]

67. Don't go boys

just don't fuckin go.

[raysr]

68. Don't go boys

just don't fuckin go.

[underseasurveyor]

69. The beginning of April or May 2005 is what I read somewhere

Can't remember where I saw that it's been some time ago. It was before the prez primaries though so we know the idiot bastard has been knowingly plannng on this but continues to lie about there being 'no plans for a draft' for a long time.

[mom-mad-about-bush]

70. Something I found on another site.....

Something I found when I googled "draft"

If Bush is reelected in 2004, we can count on a military draft in 2005.
By Mick Youther

One thing George W. Bush forgot to mention at the Republican National Convention was that, if reelected, he would soon bring back the military draft.

• “The official view from the Pentagon is that all is going well in Iraq and that the US forces are more than ready to continue the global war against terrorism….The reality is that US forces are now severely overstretched and the number of their military commitments worldwide is increasing by the day.”-- Jane's Intelligence Digest, August 2003

• “ has said the US is considering military or other action against ‘40 to 50 countries’ and warns that the new war may last 50 years or more.”-- John Pilger, Daily Mirror, 1/29/02

• “<…the active Army would be unable to sustain an occupation force of the present size beyond March 2004 if it chose not to keep individual units deployed to Iraq for longer than one year without relief.”-- Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Director of the Congressional Budget Office, quoted on BuzzFlash.com, 12/23/03[br />
• “We've failed to convince our allies to send troops, we've extended deployments so morale is sinking, and the president is saying we can't cut and run. So what's left? …at some point, we're going to need more troops, and at that point the only way to get them will be a return to the draft.”-- Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY), Salon.com, 11/3/03

• “We're not going to reimplement a draft. There is no need for it at all.”-- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/7/03 (Translated: “The draft will start right after Bush is reelected.”)

• “Pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the program so the draft could begin at early as Spring 2005 -- conveniently just after the 2004 presidential election!”-- Adam Stutz, Project Censored, 1/28/04

You can tell the Chickenhawks have been working on this for a while. They want to make sure no one can avoid the draft—like they did.

• “A little-noticed provision in a new federal education law requires high schools to provide names, addresses, and phone numbers of students to military recruiters. Schools that refuse to comply face losing federal education funding under the Elementary and Secondary Education Act.”-- Boston Globe, 11/21/02 (Now you know what they mean by “No Child Left Behind”.)

• “If a military draft were to return, it would not be the same as during the Vietnam War. Because of the widespread concern that sons in wealthy and politically connected families can easily avoid the draft, no educational exemptions are expected this time, except to allow the completion of a term or for a senior to complete the year. Because of the extensive completion of extradition treaties, for example, the 2001 Smart Border Declaration, escaping to Canada or Sweden, or about any other country, would not be an option.”-- Carol Van Houten, The Register-Guard, 6/25/04

• “ that would require that all males and females between the ages of 18 and 26 perform two years of ‘service.’ …any draftees that were not needed by the military would be assigned to a civilian job that, ‘as determined by the President, promotes the national defense, including national or community service and homeland security.’”-- Draft Notices, Nov.-Dec., 2003

• “In line with today's needs, the Selective Service System's structure, programs and activities should be re-engineered toward maintaining a national inventory of American men and, for the first time, women, ages 18 through 34, with an added focus on identifying individuals with critical skills.”-- Selective Service System proposal, 2/11/03; quoted in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 5/1/04

• “$28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. SSS must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation.”-- Adam Stutz, Project Censored, 1/28/04

So, if you are of draft age or you have children or grandchildren of draft age, or you care about someone of draft age; in other words—everyone—vote for John Kerry and send Bush back to Texas before he can do any more harm. His military misadventures have already caused thousands of deaths and torn apart the lives of tens of thousands of military families.

• “If you have a child who will be fourteen years old in the next few months, they could be on the battlefield before the end of a second Bush term.”-- Charles Cutter, Magic City Morning Star, 7/8//04

Posted September 6, 2004

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[mom-mad-about-bush]

73. IMPORTANT -- LINK FOR HOW TO STAY OUT OF THE MILITARY!!!

LINK FOR STAYING OUT OF THE MILITARY

<http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/wiggins5.html>

[misskris10]

76. my brother will be turning 20

in february, which means he's choice meat.
"first priority" for a draft.

he and i have started learning french...

[rniel]

75. He just won't use the word "draft"

But it will be a draft. They'll probably call it the homeland freedom initiative or something Orwellian.

[FlyByNight]

81. He'll announce the draft in front of a "Mission Accomplished"...

backdrop. Chaos, war-profiteering, imperialism, fear, death... accomplished.

[natrat]

82. amnesty and citizenship for illegal immigrants

[Stinky The Clown]

84. "The Generals" have already testified to Congress they need more men

First Stella got her groove back .......

and now ......

Chimpus Khan gets his wars back

[Dem2theMax]

86. He'll give a rousing speech to get the people all worked up.

Something like this:

"The world will not help, the people must help themselves. Its own strength is the source of life. That strength the Almighty has given us to use; that in it and through it, we may wage the battle of our life. The others in the past years have not had the blessing of the Almighty - of Him who in the last resort, whatever man may do, holds in His hands the final decision. Lord God, let us never hesitate or play the coward."

Oh wait. Hitler said that.
Wonder how I could have confused it with *? :evilfrown:

[90-percent]

87. draft

Hmmm, just got to thinking.......

Why isn't this administration going out and making speeches asking patriotic young people to volunteer?

Whay aren't they making this plea as publicly and agressively as their media echo chamber will allow?

It's a logical goal considering their "war on everything" bent?

How about "please volunteer in droves so we dont have to reinstate the draft"?

-85%

[Dem2theMax]

92. Good question. And it would make perfect sense. If * ever made sense.

Only thing I can think of is if they do that, young repukes might actually volunteer. And * doesn't want that. They are the future 'corporations/money in his pocket' kids and he doesn't want them blown to bits. Better to have a draft where the rich repukes can somehow keep THEIR kids out of the invasion. And all the poor folk? Yep, it's THEIR kids who will pay the price for *'s evil.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

88. Inagurations do not a president make, votes make a president, Diebold can'

Folks, it is a really big mistake to let Shrub get away with this again. We really can't survive 4 more years of Bush&Company, and this time, with no re-election to worry about, we will see Shrub Unleashed! Call the media regularly, write the newspapers, demand a recount in your state, demand an investigation of this election fraud, and call your congressmen and senators and demand they challenge the electors. On inauguration day please let us gather all across America in our own towns, at public places, all at the same time, and carry signs saying "Diebold can't count, Congratulations President Kerry". Let us recognize our real president this time, en masse, all in our own towns, all across the nation, and let's fly all our flags at half mast, in mourning for the "death of American democracy". Even if they force this on us, we don't have to act like we believe it for a moment. There will soon be a draft for BOTH men and women up to age 34, the plans for this were spelled out to the pentagon on Feb 11, 2003, and they are only waiting until after The Son of a Bush is safely installed. Tell your children not to go. Some of them will feel it is their duty if called, but argue the point with them, explain the Commander In Thief is an evil war profiteer, in fact a war criminal, who would order to do immoral things, like torture prisoners. It is not their duty to serve such a master. Get them faked ID's, hide them in the attic, or get them out of the country but don't let them go into the military. At least they will still be alive, and not have the blood of innocents on their hands. If your children were thinking about ROTC for college, for god's sake, don't let them do it. Even if they delay college, at least they will be better off. Do not allow your children to respond to this draft. If you are age 34 or less, I beg you not to go off to fight Shrub's illegal, immoral oil wars. Tell your children we will know when we have a serious war that really needs fighting when we see The Drunken Bush Twins getting shipped out with the marines. Then, if The Drunken Bush Twins go, we should know its time to send our kids too. Until then, Don't give up. Don't be afraid. People have been changing the world all through history, and people, usually a small group of them, are the ONLY things that ever change the world. Think about it. Don't stop demanding a just investigation of this fraud, Do recognize our legitimate president on inauguration day, and don't stop demanding impeachment of The Son of a Bush. Don't let anyone pretend to your face that the lies are the truth, call them on it, in the supermarket, at the beauty salon, at work, call the doublethink lies for what they are, don't make like you believe it for a moment.

[lthuedk]

90. Hell no...we won't go!!!