KTVU has debate pre-show on plus Live web viewing link

[proud patriot]

Showing the history of the recall now .

http://www.ktvu.com/index.html

[arcane1]

1. damn them and their 4pm BS

:grr:


gotta save prime time for the Conan and Terminator reruns, I guess...

[chaumont58]

9. When I first heard about the 4pm start....

I thought they must be kissing some eastern daylight time ass. I still don't understand why 4pm. Maybe its some sort of plot to get the smallest audience possible. At 4pm, pdt, most people are not home from work yet.

[proud patriot]

2. Davis just admitted he made some mistakes

Said "I did not act quick enough to stop the energy crisis"

Now being asked about his statement "republican try to steal elections "

Ha ha Davis just used Jesse Ventura's quote about football
:bounce:

[proud patriot]

3. I think Davis Is kicking butt

Stating all the stuff Repukes have done to our
state ...Wilson raped us .

[realFedUp]

4. The Governor is on

Talking about the legislature...planning for future budgets
....open to a two year budget cycle.

(The Repugnants in the Legislature are part of the
problem no one is talking about.)

[chaumont58]

12. I live in California and ought to know, but I don't for sure

I think by law, it takes a 2/3rds majority in both houses to raise taxes. It becomes a tyranny of the minority(if the 2/3rds is true)..

[realFedUp]

82. you are right

takes 2/3rds now to piss in a pot in the Lege.

[realFedUp]

5. Talking about facts around energy gouging

Nice to hear facts for a change....

[proud patriot]

6. Asked about Prop 54

Says he's 100% against Prop 54

[realFedUp]

8. Now for the others....

. Cruz, Arianna, Peter, Peter, Tom

[proud patriot]

7. The Govenor's closing statement now

Davis , Democracy depends on an informed citzenry.

Will Fight for schools firfights etc.

Pledges to stay in touch with the people of California
with many town hall meetings , he says he learns a lot
from the people of this state that hear would never hear
in Sacramento .

[proud patriot]

10. hahaha

Question on the street : who are you voting for
lady says "I'm voting republican probably Bustamante"

LOL.......When the reporter said "he's Democratic"

Lady says laughingly "I guess I'm not informed"

ahhhhhhhhhh YEAH ! :eyes:

[realFedUp]

13. had to roll my eyes at her...

gads, this isn't rocket science....don't people
read a newspaper anymore?

[realFedUp]

11. limiting each answer to one minute

no opening statements, but will be closing statements.

First question for Tom McClintock
Going over voting record...(not good)

[proud patriot]

14. Booooooooooo there's republican Boooooooooooooo

:mad:

[realFedUp]

15. Arianna talks about Bush's fiscal irresponsibility

one of her points and she got applause for it.

[proud patriot]

16. Arianna ... letting Mcklintock have it

oops audience appluaded ...No No bad form I guess moderater
says ....Who cares She kicked repuke butt ...

[realFedUp]

17. The transcript of this will probably be printed in the Times

tomorrow...or at least I hope so.

[proud patriot]

18. Booooooooo nother repuke Boooooooooo

Big Fat rassberry

[realFedUp]

19. Camejo talks about disfunctionality of both parties

Camejo says its wrong to be able to elect someone
in this recall with a low percentage of votes.

[realFedUp]

20. Ueberroth talks about businesses

moving jobs out of state...Ueberroth is
more general than he needs to be...
says jobs are the answer.

Cruz is rocking

[proud patriot]

21. Ubberoth lying about companies leaving California

:grr: LOL reporter follows up hard ..Ha Ha !

Cruz is sounding pretty good actually ..He speaks well ..

[proud patriot]

24. Peter Camejo talking about the rule of law leaving

and the rich having lower taxes . Arrianna slamming hard
on Repuke ...Opps Mcklintock called Cruz Governer..Hehehehe

Camjeo says top 1% percent pay smaller % in taxes the poorest tax
payers are paying 11% ...Slamming Woo Hoo ...

[realFedUp]

22. Corporations paying half of what they need to

Paying the lowest tax rates saying Camejo.

[realFedUp]

23. Arianna says close the corporate loopholes

and there will be more money

[realFedUp]

25. Wealthiest pay 7.2%

Poorest pay 11% of their income on taxes...says Camejo
(better check those numbers in printed transcript)
Camejo's arguments are interesting.

[proud patriot]

26. Oh lordy ....This Rocks

:evilgrin:

[realFedUp]

29. Arianna talks about Prop. 13

correcting the tax base on large businesses like Disneyland
that pay very little in property taxes.

[realFedUp]

27. Recovery comes from small and medium sized businesses

says Ueberroth.

McClintock says state is spending more...
Cruz talks about Wal-Mart...wow, he is stuck on that one.

[proud patriot]

28. Cruz is slamming on Walmart ...Yippee

says they hand their minimum wage workers papers
to teach them how to get food stamps , while making huge
profits .

[realFedUp]

30. It's good to have Arianna debating also

That is the good from third parties...

[proud patriot]

35. Isn't it amazing the difference with Arianna and Camejo there

Woo hoo .....I hope you are watching this Californians .
I believe they will repeat this later tonight for those stuck at work.

Hey it's been too long since i tag teamed with you RealFedUp
It's been fun ....

[realFedUp]

31. Ueberroth really needs Viagra

he is the lowest key guy....

[proud patriot]

32. Arianna talking about raising house taxes

She wants to close all loopholes for the rich.

Never allow me in the same room with Mcklintock
I would not stay silent through his lies ..
GRRRRRRRR REPUKES SUCK !!!

[realFedUp]

33. Camejo agrees with Warren Buffett

make property taxes fair.

(I agree)

[messiah]

34. This

is better than I thought it was going to be!.

[realFedUp]

36. Indian tribe giving

Cruz is giving Indians respect they deserve and says
by law Indians can build on their land.

Camejo doesn't like getting monies from gambling,
tobacco etc.

Tom says it's on the shady side of the law.

Ueberroth said something I couldn't catch.

[realFedUp]

37. Illegal immigrants

Ueberroth says feds should pay for illegal immigrants
coming over borders

Arianna said she voted against 187

Camejo voted against 187

McClintock voted for 187 and wants to see it in court.

[realFedUp]

38. A simple majority should be good enough for passing a budget

like the founding fathers says Arianna.

[realFedUp]

39. McClintock lying about partial birth abortion again

Ueberroth believes in a woman's right to choose.

[Emboldened Chimp]

41. Ueberroth plays it both ways

would've vetoed the bill, but is pro-choice? WTF?

[realFedUp]

40. Well run debate

better than a lot I've seen. We now have 5 voters who
were chosen from many who sent in questions.

[proud patriot]

44. I'm back

To ubberoth ,
Asking about plans to retain art programs in California .

Arts not a priority , I think the question threw him for loop.

[realFedUp]

42. Camejo talking about energy

very passionate about renewables making the state
the leader in it.

[realFedUp]

43. Arts programming in CA

asked to Ueberroth....
says there isn't enough money to go around...doesn't
have any creative ways to figure this out...

Doesn't talk about the importance of the arts.

more jobs, tighter budget is Ueberroth's solution period

[proud patriot]

45. Asking Cruz about the immigrant Licenses

and if their is any immigrant issue he would opposes.

He answers the first part well , but moderator had re ask second
part . Still not a direct answer .

[proud patriot]

50. Arianna i missed the question

But she's talking about raising teacher saleries
instead of prison guards saleries

"books not bars"

[realFedUp]

46. Driver's license

Cruz talks about workers...illegal and are working, providing
us their labor that no one else is doing. If it takes
a driver's license to help them out, he's for it.

Are there any services he'd deny to illegal immigrants?
He thinks education, medical care etc....they are
paying taxes.

[Emboldened Chimp]

He didn't really answer that one

about which ones he'd deny. He talked around it.

[realFedUp]

51. doesn't sound like he'd deny basic stuff

because they work and pay taxes also.

[Emboldened Chimp]

47. He didn't really answer that one

about which ones he'd deny. He talked around it.

[realFedUp]

48. books not bars says Arianna

for giving teachers more pay and prison guards less.

[Emboldened Chimp]

49. Arianna up

answering question about raising teacher saleries.

Anyone else here think she's hot...?

[Emboldened Chimp]

52. Someone should've put an egg in Arnie's empty chair

That would've been a scream!

[proud patriot]

LOL OMG would that of been a hoot or what ?

hahahahahahahahahaha !

[realFedUp]

53. McClintock would eat Arnold alive in a debate

He has facts and figures that make Arnold's head spin.

Maybe the Pubs are hoping to drive Tom out before
Arnold has to debate

[Emboldened Chimp]

54. McClintlock wants to layoff state workers

in favor of private sector jobs. Asshole.

[Room101]

55. Arianna is killing in the debate

She is being an attack dog and highlighting the hypocrisy of the right. She is the only one that has gotten laughs and applause. The moderator asked the audience to wait to the end for applause. I think I counted three times that candidates said I agree with Arianna!

Arianna for Gov !!!!!!!!!!!1

[Emboldened Chimp]

57. She looks great, too!

[Room101]

65. This 24 year old would love to go out with Arianna!

:)

[realFedUp]

56. Car tax

Cruz would raise alcohol and tobacco taxes and lower
car fees (no one says that this is determined by legislation
that Wilson put in)...Arianna
interrupting saying no he wouldn't.

[realFedUp]

58. Camejo says Republicans don't say it but they will cut education

but won't say it.

[realFedUp]

59. Medicare fraud

How do you document that? Might some truly needy be
thrown out?

Ueberroth doesn't know anything about medicare fraud
but will find people to investigate it.

(and how do you hire more people to investigate this
stuff if there is no money)
Arianna says there over 6 million uninsured...

[realFedUp]

60. Camejo wants an audit of last 5 years

There are programs happening here...corporate welfare.

[realFedUp]

61. Camejo nervous about all the extra school testing

says we need a holistic approach,,,thinks it will
lead to more privatized schooling, less public

(hidden agenda he says)

[realFedUp]

62. Gads, Ueberroth is unanimated

He doesn't look like his whole heart is in this thing...

[realFedUp]

63. I'm done....are you still here PP?

anyone else want to take over?

[proud patriot]

64. I 'm back ...Running between my kid and this right now

Thanks so much for all the typing ..
supports the death penalty ,
Cruz
Ubberoth
Mcklintock

opposed
Camejo also mentions being against 3 stikes

[proud patriot]

66. To Cruz Q Name specific item you differ with Gov on

Mentions the energy crisis ,

was first to sue energy companies

given a chance to attack Davis , and doesn't bite

well done Cruz .....

[proud patriot]

67. Camejo rebutt

Attacks Davis and All Dems ....

Ubberoth refuses to critize Gov. also

Mcklintock ,, is an ass and I'm not transcibing his BS

Arianna ...says Cruz is the only thing stopping her from
being Gov. used as comic relief really :shrug:

[proud patriot]

68. To all again , Would you sign Immigrant License

Cruz yes
Arrianna yes
Mcklintock NO leading opposition
Ubberoth yes
Camejo yes

[proud patriot]

69. Q prop 54 (race related date Gathering)

Camejo Against it
Cruz against
Arrianna against
Mcklintock is for it
Ubberoth wants to understand it better

[proud patriot]

71. Civil Unions Q would you sign bill before the Gov.

Ubberoth -- yes
arianna -- yes
Mcklitock asshole NO
Camejo -- yes
Bustamante -- yes

[proud patriot]

72. Support or oppose Med Marijauna

Mcklintock supports it Woa
Camejo Supports
Ubberoth supports
Cruz supports
Arianna supports and says she would fight bush and ashcroft

[Emboldened Chimp]

73. Wow, even the pukes support it

Wonders never cease!

[proud patriot]

74. Shoot I missed the question

:shrug:

[Emboldened Chimp]

75. Closing statements

Puke McClintlock first: can't survive another three years, too much spending, our generation's opportunity to restore Golden State, yaddayaddayadda...

[Emboldened Chimp]

76. Uerberoth up

not a politician, not good on tv (really?!), I'm a businessman, I was in the riots (wtf?), I'm about locking up the repubs and dems (yeah!), get a budget that works, won't run again, won't go to cocktail parties to raise money, wants to keep jobs in the state (sounds good), best place to live, best people, likes high paying jobs.

[Emboldened Chimp]

77. Now Camejo

Wants to close loopholes for corporations, need to create balanced budget through fair tax, wants CA to lead the world with renewable resources, favors living wage, universal health care, equality, save the ancient forests, open up electoral system, look at this debate, you want to go back to two candidates?, two hundred year deficient voting system, need run-off voting, give people choices, more parties, bring people back to power, get rid of money.

[Emboldened Chimp]

78. And Arianna

(she's hot!), We'll never clean up the mess if we keep electing the same people, not about left or right, it's about right or wrong, CA's want revolution, priorities of state=priorites of a mother, make corp and tribes pay fair share of taxes, next American Revolution is here, now, freeing ourselves from special interests, lets take back the state!

[Emboldened Chimp]

79. Finally Cruz

I've been elected twice, I've done things, reformed welfare, cut college tuition, added kids to state medicare(?), I'm almost governor anyway, get rid of car tax, presented plans to fix budget, only one to do so thusfar, took care of budget hole, gas&oil are being unfair, like Enron, gas prices make no sense, CA being gouged, Cruz got cut off--make sure oil companies aren't gouging.

[Emboldened Chimp]

70. Prop 54

Cruz-against
Camejno-against
Arriana-against
the two pukes-for

[Terwilliger]

80. I dont know who won, but AHH-nold lost

Ueberroth did not sound that good, and McClintock (while intelligent) is brazenly right-wing.

[Emboldened Chimp]

81. The egg did better than Ah-nuld!

Made more of an impact.