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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 09:54 PM
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Propaganda
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136661,00.html

"Our country is under attack, but instead of bombs and bullets — the weapons of choice are hateful words and images aimed at distorting American policy and image around the world."

Wonder if we could get something like this talked about, and railed against, as much as that dumbass MNF promo before the game?

I didn't think so either.

Why stop this crap, when a woman's back is on TV for all to see!

And I wonder how much anyone who watches this program will learn? Just a way to enrage the nationalists in this country.

I like that it'll be on now. I'm sure it wasn't timed along with the fun our empire is having in Fallujah.

I don't know why I'm linking the story. It's nothing new. I'm just going crazy. Honestly. I can't take this reality. You hear about a program like this, you know what's happening in Fallujah right now(one place among many), you know everything they're going to say is a lie, and you know people will buy it.

It'll just be another forum to get the words liberal, and anti-American in the same sentence.

It's just so draining.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:00 PM
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1. but darlin,
have you not heard? no civilian deaths in falluja. all is well on the mideastern front. those terrible terrorists are all over there and we are killing them. go shopping!
if you were not drained, you would not be humane.
the propaganda matrix works hard to keep us confused. when you short circuit, you feel so disoriented for a bit. grab hold. the communal spirit is awakening, and we will rage against this shit together.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:01 PM
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2. We are preoccupied with noise...
to the extent we search for meaning in it.

The truly meaningful is becoming unrecognizable to us.
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Danocrat Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:02 PM
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3. Propaganda
As Minister of Enlightenment, Goebbels had two main tasks:

to ensure nobody in Germany could read or see anything that was hostile or damaging to the Nazi Party.

to ensure that the views of the Nazis were put across in the most persuasive manner possible.

To ensure success, Goebbels had to work with the SS and Gestapo and Albert Speer. The former hunted out those who might produce articles defamatory to the Nazis and Hitler while Speer helped Goebbels with public displays of propaganda.

To ensure that everybody thought in the correct manner, Goebbels set up the Reich Chamber of Commerce in 1933. This organisation dealt with literature, art, music, radio, film, newspapers etc. To produce anything that was in these groups, you had to be a member of the Reich Chamber. The Nazi Party decided if you had the right credentials to be a member. Any person who was not admitted was not allowed to have any work published or performed. Disobedience brought with it severe punishments. As a result of this policy, Nazi Germany introduced a system of censorship. You could only read, see and hear what the Nazis wanted you to read, see and hear. In this way, if you believed what you were told, the Nazi leaders logically assumed that opposition to their rule would be very small and practiced only by those on the very extreme who would be easy to catch.

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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:02 PM
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4. I read that "story"...
...and thought: "NOW I remember why Europeans hate America."
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Fear Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:04 PM
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5. Fuck FOX - let's all get un-foxed - they'll give is some twist....and yes,
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 10:04 PM by Fear
Europe HATES America.........
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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:07 PM
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6. "what can we do to reverse it?"
With America's steadfast support of Israel and the ever-widening War on Terror, we might expect anti-U.S. feelings in the volatile Middle East, but a new survey shows that anti-Americanism is growing in Europe too.

What's behind this disturbing trend and what can we do to reverse it?

Will the outcome of the hotly contested presidential election improve or worsen our standing in the world?


The election disaster has definitely worsened our standing ALREADY! What SHOULD we do to reverse it? Impeach Bush NOW!!!!!

:mad:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:35 PM
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7. Or other subtle means such as ditching the dollar.
FOX News seems more content to prattle about words than with issues that truly will hurt us.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:42 PM
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8. this line slays me....
"""What's behind this disturbing trend and what can we do to reverse it?"""

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Gee whiz. Maybe the "freeing Iraqis 1 bullet at a time(to the head)" policy is offending people? Since the media here is hopeless I'm going to help them with my top five list of how to they can make the world like us more.

1)go off the air for good(smart people use cspan, pbs, bbc,or just the web anyway)

2)go off the air for good(no, really, I'm dead serious. you suck. game over. bye now)

3)stop referring to the French especially and the rest of the world collectively as "un-American". I think they already got the memo that not only are they not Americans, but that we have considerable contempt for their views.

4)"End Times" is not a foreign policy. Stop having pundits on who act like it is. In fact, no more pundits. I have a mind, you give me the news, I'll make up my mind. Something like that would go over well not just with the world, but also with the 48% of the voters who hate what you do and are teaching our children to never trust you.

5) Show less piles of naked prisoners with shit all over them. Real downer. The snuff films suck too since I really don't blame scared kids for firing at anything that moves anywhere near as much as I blame the assholes who send them there. I'm betting the world feels that way too.

"""Will the outcome of the hotly contested presidential election improve or worsen our standing in the world? """

Well Gee Whiz all over again! Most hated prez in history......re-elected........the only few rats anyone thought weren't totally evil jump off the USS Bush........what could it possibly be that makes these crazy foreigners so mad? OH YEAH, now I remember, we do in fact, suck.

Hi world, my name is Yuugal, and I'm sorry. I brought my state home on a plate even though the enemy used my city and our tragedy to stage their media convention. Some of the rest of my party didn't get the job done in their states but don't be too hard on them. They are up against a form of ignorance and intellectual poverty that would stun you were you to bother to visit Bumfuck, Idaho or maybe Shitwater Creek, Mississippi. You cant get to this kind of stupidity by plane, really, civilization has not been kind to the backwaters of America. So, dear world, just as I've had to deal with the fact that Bush is here for 4 more years of terra,terra,terra, YOU have to deal with the fact that we are ASSHATS. Sucks to be you. Sucks to be any thinking person these days. It always will.
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