Is it me or are the moles, freepers, psy-ops goons beginning to come

[In Truth We Trust]

out of the woodwork?

[Minstrel Boy]

1. You kiddin'? There are so many of them

there's hardly any wood left.

So to speak.

[Octafish]

20. And it's off to the wood shed we go.

Many, if not most, might have a change of heart given a hearty dose of the Truth.

Then again, many are NAZIs. And they are incorrigible.

http://www.tupbiosystems.com/articles/bush_nazi.html

[flowomo]

2. I've been dissed as a freeper/goon/whatever several times

in the last week because people don't like my posts. Sure, they're probably around, but I think the atmosphere is suspicious and hostile right now and people are seeing enemies where they don't exist. Just my view.

[Ducks In A Row]

4. maybe because you post newsmax articles as if they are true

[Name removed]

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[flowomo]

12. that's why they have an "alert" button, my friend

[Ducks In A Row]

29. nope. You're not that big a troll

[flowomo]

33. we come in sizes?

[Ducks In A Row]

35. Of course! :)

there are little bitty ones you can put in a pocket.

And there are the really big ones, like the ones who chased Bilbo, and turned to stone in the sun.

;)

[flowomo]

10. for heaven's sake.... Ducks,

I was interested in the transcript of the verbal exchange between Jennings and Clinton. The editorial bullshit was of no interest to me -- and guess what? -- I am clever enough to recognize it for what it is. It was the first site I saw with the actual exchange and thought that might be of interest to others. Now where exactly did I say anything about believing the "commentary" was "true"? No, the real issue is that some people now want "purity" of thought and reference. And that sort of censorship bothers me.

[troubleinwinter]

19. heh!

:headbang:

[astroboy]

26. Thank Gore he 'INVENTED' the Internet!

all american lame stream media suck as well :puke:

[wtmusic]

40. actually what Gore said was

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Which is absolutely true. No one else fought as hard as Gore did, as a rep and a senator in the 80's, for the funding which would turn Arpanet into the Internet. No one. Especially Newt Gingrich.

So you can repeat the same old lies or you can look a little deeper. I'm getting extremely bored hearing that one again.

[astroboy]

46. who cares, it doesn't matter anymore in bizarro world

besides, i like the IRONY of it :evilgrin:

thank GORE he 'INVENTED' the INTERNET :bounce:

peace

[minkyboodle]

31. LOL

[GregW]

36. I prefer 'ignore'

*click* you're gone. Buh-bye freeptard.

[tritsofme]

50. Me too

If you don't think we was robbed and that we simply lost, then you're just a freeper, its rather pathetic.

[havocmom]

3. A) They think 3% is a mandate

B) They actually believe the chimp in chief won by 3% when anybody with a brain can see the ballots were bogus.

[mopinko]

5. let's call them out

diediebold . who else?

[Name removed]

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[txindy]

37. You can smell their fear. The election investigations are terrifying them.

[flowomo]

42. see above post.... and it's "deceit"

[Cleita]

6. We have regular eruptions.

Then they go and a new crop pops up. You'll get used to it and learn to sniff them out and separate them from the newbies.

[Erika]

7. The Freepers Need a Cause

Bush used them and rode them hard. They are looking for some reason to defend the idiot. Those that aren't praying to Mullah Robertson and Falwell. It must be pretty depressing to be a GOP right now.

[arabella]

8. I hope...

...you're not referring to me! I know that being a homeschooler and making my own foods usually cause people to assume I'm a knuckledragger... but really.

I was in the March for Women's Rights in D.C. Proof:

http://www.sacredspiral.com/March/index.html

[Kipepeo]

14. Welcome to DU!

:toast:

[liberalnurse]

15. You are a Champion!

Hi, and welcome....:loveya:

[In Truth We Trust]

17. Welcome and enjoy the discourse

[laheina]

48. You must be mistaken.

The slow foods movement is kewl. As opposed to the raw foods movement, which is kind of weird.

[LeftyMom]

49. Hey, if homeschooling and eating well is wrong

I don't wanna be right!

Welcome to DU! We just got a HS group, come check it out! :)

[NikolaTeslaRocks]

58. Homeschooling is Cool - and various other points of view

Homeschooling is cool especially when you see what is coming out of the schools now. Illiterate kids and kids that have to take remedial math and english in college. The quality of the educational system at least in my state is going DOWN and fast. It was already low to begin with.
They are teaching the stuff that I am teaching my elementary aged son who is homeschooled. Homeschooling really does rock and is fun esp. when you see your child grasp something that has them stumped for a bit.

I wish the government would take a stand and go against the big ole pharma when needed instead of protecting them, I wish they would stop allowing some of the chemicals that are put in our food supply, I wish the government would stop promoting Genetically Engineered foods.I wish the FDA and the CDC along with other organizations would stop doing what big companies and pharma wants and start being honest and protecting the people like they are supposed to. I just want the lies to stop and the people to start being considered again.

I wish they would allow hemp to be grown here. Not the kind that makes you high but the kind that can be used for clothing and much more. Hemp products are quite numerous and benefits the envirement dramatically.
The thing is it would reduce the pesticide use and water use by farmers dramatically. This would hurt the cotton industry at first but they could switch over to growing hemp. This industry would solve a lot of problems once they get over a few details that have to deal with getting the industry started. If others have not looked into this hemp issue, I recommend it. Hemp clothing has many benefits over cotton as well. It last longer and could cost much less money under the right circumstances.There are health benefits of using some hemp products as well. The oil from the hemp I am talking about is fabulous. You will not get high off of these products either so that will disapoint some people, lol.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=hemp&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t-174&fl=0&x=wrt

http://www.hemp.com/

http://ecolution.com/

Really, I dont consider myself a democrat so much. Besides some people have different meanings of what a democrat is.I just want the government to stop abusing people, give us back our basic rights, stop lying to us, stop ravishing our constitution, reduce our taxes, reduce government size, and stop taxing the middle man so much. There is more to what I believe but this is the gist of it.
Is there a label for someone that beleives like me and am I considered one of the goons or whatever because of my beliefs that I have stated here?
I believe once the government get involved with stuff it usually gets messed up big time.

The thing that makes most think I am wacko around these parts is that I am against vaccine mandates. I have done a lot of research on this matter. I feel this should be a parental right.I think vaccine mandates ought to be outlawed. I know that most republicans seem to be against aborting and stem cell research yet they dont mind that aborted fetal cells are used in vaccines. They dont seem to mind getting them in the form of their HepB, Chickpox shot, Polio vaccine and more. There is a lot of controversy over vaccines nowadays. Just look at what is in them and that will make one think twice about them. You should read about them before you allow you or your children to be vaxxed. Most states have religious exemptions and these websites can help people out with obtaining them. I want everyone to read these sites before they call parents who refuse vaccine irresponsible. This really does happen often but usually after they visit these sites they dont do that.
They may still opt to vaccinate but they see the other side and tend to withhold harsh judgement.

Here are some good websites.
http://www.thinktwice.com
http://www.vaccineinfo.net
http://www.vaclib.org This site has state chapters for personal advice
http://www.vaccinationnews.com
http://www.909shot.com/ This website has a petition that needs to be signed

Now after reading all this about me, What party am I? Do I sound like a goon after reading this post. Or do you guys need to get to know me better to know this.

[LeinesRed]

11. Maybe they are defensive...

WHY THE HELL DO YOU WANT TO KNOW???? :evilfrown:

[LeinesRed]

13. Hey, that was my 666 post!!!

Wish I would have done something a little more commemorative!!

[Roland Deschain]

24. How do you know if you are too conservative for this forum?

I would say that I am slightly the right of Senator Lieberman, but well to the left of Zell Miller (then again even Bush is to the left of Miller so that's probably not the best standard for comparison. I'm for drug, prostitution and generally "free sex" legalization, but against abortion except in cases of rape, incest, and the health and life of the mother (although I don't think it should be illegal. Instead I propose the legalized "selling" of babies in an "adoption market" of pre-screened individuals in order to give a financial incentive to mothers who might otherwise have an abortion). I'm generally for the war in Iraq, but feel the Patriot Act may well be a prelude for an oppressive "Big Brother" state. I volunteered for Dukakis when I was younger, but named my son after Reagan when he was born several years ago (I voted for Bush Sr in 1992, but then I voted for Clinton during his second term. However, I didn't vote in either of the last two elections. Then again I live in Indiana so It's not like it would matter). My favorite Democrat is probably Barak Obama or Gov. Richardson of New Mexico (or possibly Bill Clinton). My favorite TV news/ entertainment personality would either be Bill Mahrer or Bill O'Reilly. I thought Bush's prescription drug plan was election pandering, and will create an entitlement that will rival Medicaid (I propose offering such coverage, but limiting it to those with incomes that are below average not to all seniors). I am against the government approving gay marriage, but then again I'm against the government being involved in "any" marriage. Instead, I think that marriage should be between two people (man or woman)and that marriage licenses shouldn't even exist (I am also for polygamy if that's what consenting adults agree to).

[PassingFair]

27. You lost us at hello.

You are a libertarian.

[m berst]

38. you sound really confused

So you will fit right in here.

Welcome.

[ebayfool]

41. My favorite ...Bill Mahrer or Bill O'Reilly. That's gotta hurt your head!

A bunch!

[wtmusic]

44. You have *got* to be kidding

about the legalized "selling" of babies, right? Or do you want several million babies/yr born out of wedlock so their mothers can cash in?

Might want to rethink that one.

[m berst]

52. "free markets"

Our only moral guidepost.

[In Truth We Trust]

47. I personally believe that whatever view you may have you should

express it-however be prepared for a flame or two where some of your positions are concerned. As long as you are honest and not trying to propagate known myth and other propaganda you should be welcome.

[Roland Deschain]

51. Okay, the baby selling idea is not perfect as pointed out above...

it would encourage mothers to have kids "for profit." I'm not sure if this shortcoming can be overcome. However, I view such a prospect as the "lessor" of two evils (as compared to the other alternative of abortion). Again, even though you could "buy" the right to adopt (although this would be in addition to current adoption modalities rather than in place of them) you would still have to pass a criminal background screening ect. Also, since we are on the subject of abortion let me raise a point that I seldom hear. If as a guy I impregnate a female she can decide to keep the child and compel me to pay child support under penalty of jail. In other words "my body" (in the form of my labor) is removed from my control by the force of law. However, I have no right to tell her to have an abortion (or to refrain from an abortion) or to give the baby up for adoption. I guess what I'm saying is that even though I'm pro-life overall, I might be in favor of expanding the right to abortion in one sense. I think that a father should have the right to instruct the woman to have an abortion, or to give the baby up for adoption. If she chooses to ignore this input, I believe that mandatory child support should be forfited (actually, I believe mandatory child support to be inviolation of the Constitution's prohibition against involuntary servitude. In fact, I remember a business law class that I had where the Prof. explained that you cannot force someone into a Chapter 13 Bankruptcy because you would be forcing them to work to pay a debt, and that this has been deemed by the courts to violate the Bill of Rights injunction against slavery.).

As to why I'm not a Libertarian, it basically comes down to the fact that I'm far less isolationist, than that party. I think Clinton was right on to do what he did in Kosovo, and that Bush was also on the mark to go into Iraq (in fact I think that Clinton erred by not also going into Rawanda when the Hutu's were persecuted, and that Bush is currently remiss by not going into the Sudan).

[MichaelHarris]

53. So tell us

why was bush right to go into Iraq? Was it the weapons or the terrorist connections? Maybe it was for the oil contracts held in Iraq brokered by the Carlysle Group? Which one of those reasons have almost 2000 Americans died for?

[Bridget Burke]

54. You lost me at the baby selling bit.

Also--consider using "paragraphs." An unbroken block of text is quite difficult to read.

Oh, and the bit about being for the war in Iraq.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

62. So you're for the Handmaid's Tale but against the Patriot Act

yep...you could be a white male liberal

[jukes]

63. i'm way left of you

but don't have any *major* discord w/ any of your perceptions. stick around & you'll prbly move left of some of your current POVs. as long as you're polite & not disruptive i think you'll like it here.

if you're a plant, you'll go away soon. those people are not nearly as clever as they think they are.

interesting about o'reilly; hope it's because you find the weak, pathetic rationalizations amuzing.


hope you're around long enough to get a clearer picture of this tragic war we've started...

[noordinaryspider]

18. They're everywhere, like cockroaches!

Pre-Black Wednesday, I mostly hung out at rather specialized forums: parenting, long distance relationships, homeschooling, etc.

They took over all of my li'l homes on the internet; they didn't belong on any of them.

Check out this thread on a love and romance site:

http://members.lovingyou.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87459

It was moved to the "debate" forum, but I believe it was originally posted on one of the forums specifically labelled and devoted to sexual advice.

The parenting site I used to belong to was worse.

[astroboy]

16. predictable

after what we all just experienced on black wed... and our leaders basically telling us to either 'MoveOn', 'stop whining', '06/08', 'don't slash your wrists', acrimony and infighting is not surprising to say the least.

what is surprising is that our leaders led us here than abandoned us, for me anyways.

[In Truth We Trust]

21. I know how you feel. I believe we should seek our own "leadership"

we should embrace true progressives and dump any sellouts, compromisers etc. Instead of being practical and voting for the so called "electable" candidate we should be principled and support those who support us.

[astroboy]

25. i believe whoever it is must be very practical to reach all us

but, you're right they must actually STAND UP and FIGHT for all of us as well.

if they state their principals, which mirror our own and they actually STRUGGLE to achieve them they will be a force to be reckoned with even when OUT of power at least they could still be the LOYAL OPPOSITION.

i can NOT believe they won't FIGHT for our hard won VOTE god dammit! :wtf:

i think most today are in on it, to be frank, on both sides of the aisle.

i hope they are at least worried about this 'PERCEPTION' since they seem to recognize clearly how important IMAGE is :puke:

:hi:

[PassingFair]

28. Paging Dr. Dean...

paging Dr. Dean...

Is there a Doctor in the House?

[astroboy]

30. Dennis Kucinich in the HOUSE

Kucinich Supports Green Party Demand for Ohio Recount


WASHINGTON -- November 18 -- Support for Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb’s demand for a recount of the Ohio presidential vote continues to grow. Ohio Congressman and former presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich has joined a growing list of individuals and organizations calling for a recount.

“I strongly support the request for a recount in Ohio,” Kucinich said in a statement sent to the Cobb-LaMarche campaign.

Kucinich said that a “recount is an appropriate response to officials who tried to suppress the vote” and that the “highly partisan activities of state election officials cast doubt on the integrity of the elections process.”

Cobb and Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik, who intend to file jointly for the recount, have demanded that Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who chaired the Ohio Bush campaign, recuse himself from the recount process.

more...
http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1118-02.htm

[billyoc]

22. Beats me, the mods are too fast

for me. :shrug:

[DrWeird]

32. There have been at least three banned...

after posting in the "Marines step in it" thread.

They like to apologize for war criminals, you know.

[Djinn]

34. I'm not big on calling people freeps

mainly because I'm a lefty Australian and to me lots of Americans seem pretty conservative even plenty of those who'd be considered "loony left" in the states BUT I have to say the threads about the marine shooting the prostrate Iraqi seem to have brought a few out that I'm fairly sure aren't liberals.

[wtmusic]

39. That was a fun one, eh Doc?

Fasten yer seatbelts...

[astroboy]

45. defending war criminals

will do it everytime ;->

keep up the good fight :toast:

[Forkboy]

55. Those threads are perfect for freep detecting

While obviously not everyone defending the troops is a Freeper,there's many with a certain zeal to thier defense.The Reagan death threads had the same effect.

[ionchemyst]

56. Don't Discount LPers either

I've never seen them mentioned over here, but they are people so crazy they got kicked out of FR. Sorta the far right wing of the far right wing.

Think about that for a moment...how insane do you have to be so that you make the FReepers say "whoa, that guy is nuts!"

[mike_c]

57. were any of those among the three goons...

...who dominated discussion in the thread I started the other night about the dialog on the AP video of the POW shooting? In the end the mods locked the thread, but I'm still amazed that those folks were not tombstoned on the spot. That was some of the most blatant freeping I've seen in some time. I've never put much stock in the notion of freepers wasting their time racking up post counts on DU, but I'm a believer now!

[cabbage08]

59. Sorry for the newbie question : What is tomb stoned?

and how can you tell if someone has been tomb stoned?:shrug:

[Catherine Vincent]

60. when you click on their profile there is a tombstone is in place of it

Pretty clever.

[traco]

43. I never get to see them

:cry:

[Catherine Vincent]

61. Stick around, you will eventually.

One hint is the low post count.

[cabbage08]

64. I found out.: The disruptor's get the tomb stoned

Working on that low post count thing. I try to listen/learn and not say too much until I learn the lingo.

[jukes]

65. a recurrent disease

like my malaria or herpes outbreax.

we just have to realize that:

a. these yoyos have an inflated opinion of their subtlety.
b. they are too emotionally immature not to intrude & throw tantrums.

[Moderator]

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