Do Carter and Clinton get along?

[liberalpragmatist]

I've read elsewhere that relations between them are cordial but kind of chilly. Carter, I've read, does not get along with President Clinton particularly well.

Of course, I doubt the awkwardness between Carter and Clinton would anywhere approach the awkwardness between Dubya and Carter. Carter has never hidden his loathing for Bush.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. Clinton Didn't Like Carter's Free Lancing In Foreign Policy

I hope this thread doesn't pit the two men against each other....

[happyslug]

2. An Engineer and a Lawyer????

Both are Politicians, but their background (Nuclear Power for Carter and Law for Clinton) would indicate some lack of Common ground between the two. Carter is also a Rich Rural Peanut Farmer, while Clinton came from a much poorer background (But still part of the Power elite of the US).

The Biggest thing keeping both apart would be how Carter had been attacked during and after his Presidency. Very Similar to how Clinton was attacked. Carter was enough of a Politician to know to keep himself away from Clinton just to minimize the attack on Clinton for "being to much like Carter". Clinton was and is a Political Animal and would have kept himself away from Carter for the Same Reason.

Thus I do not see Carter and Clinton being "Hostile" to each other, but have kept away from each other for good political reasons (Both are willing to sacrifice for the Country's Good and that Sacrifice includes avoiding each other if that is in the best interest of the Democratic Party and the Country).

[Tace]

3. I Have No Idea - Yet, Carter Is The Most Moral President I Have Ever Known

[troubleinwinter]

4. Why the question?

Whether true or not, I don't see the point.

[liberalpragmatist]

5. Oh, I'm just curious

I'm not trying to start a flame-war or anything. But given that I've heard that the two don't get along, I wanted confirmation or debunking from other DU'ers. It was just a question.

[Booster]

6. Nobody mentioned it, but wouldn't you think as a true Christian

Carter was just a little put off by what Clinton did with Monica? I think Carter really believes that a president should conduct himself at all times with respect for the office. I would also imagine that's why he's not a big fan of * also, since he's used the office for his and his friends monetarial gain, with no respect for young people who are dying every day to further their gains. Just my opinion. I like Clinton, but morally, he's no Carter. Carter only lusted in his heart, not in the Oval Office.

[troubleinwinter]

7. What do you mean "as a true Christian"???

Gads. Why judge the quality or level of another's Christianity? I would doubt that Carter would.

They are both great statesmen. I assume they have some differences of opinion on, and approaches to many things. And many common views.

I see no purpose in this.

[Booster]

8. I used the term "true Christian" because I don't for one minute

believe Carter is a right-wing fundamentalist. They are both great statesmen, but what does that have to do with anything?

[troubleinwinter]

10. Now, you're joking with me, right?

"They are both great statesmen, but what does that have to do with anything?"

Well, think it has a lot to do with it. They are the sort of men we want as presidents. I do not care if they hold backyard bar-b-ques together.

Your comments, "as a true Christian Carter was just a little put off by what Clinton did with Monica?" and "morally, he's no Carter" bother me, as I do not think we should be analyzing who is the 'best Christian'. It's the fakery that Bush ran on.

[flaminbats]

12. right-wing fundamentalists don't want peace between Egypt and Israel

Carter only wants the best for all people of every faith. A fundamentalist wants Muslims, Atheists, and even Jews to burn in hell.

[flaminbats]

9. Clinton blamed Carter for his defeat in 1980..

Carter sent 18,000 of the Cuban refugees to Fort Chafee in Arkansas. Some of the refugees and police were badly hurt when a riot broke out. Frank White used this to attack Clinton's use of the police and to blame Clinton for allowing the refugees in. Clinton blamed Carter for sending the refugees to Fort Chafee. During a phone call with a member of the Carter administration Clinton shouted "How could you do this to me? I busted my ass for Carter. You guys are going to get me beat. This is ridiculous. Carter's too chickenshit about it to tell me directly!" The Unfinished Presidency..by Douglas Brinkley

They had problems, but Clinton was just as guilty for this as Carter. Why should Clinton blame Carter for not sending these refugees to different state?

[elperromagico]

11. There was considerable resentment for the Cuban refugee issue in '80.

Clinton felt that Carter had betrayed him by not removing the refugees (having apparently promised to do so), and offered him only minimal support in his reelection bid against Reagan. The Cuban refugee issue helped to defeat Clinton in '80 (Cubans and Car Tags).

Have they healed the rift? Possibly. After all, they're both members of a pretty exclusive club (the Presidency) which gives them a certain kinship.

[geek tragedy]

13. Clinton viewed Carter's admin as a failure, and used him as a model of

what not to do.

[fujiyama]

14. As someone said

he blamed Carter for his '80 loss.

I would also assume they diverge quite a bit on other political issues. While both did do the best they could for Mid East peace, it might be said that Clinton was much friendlier with Israel than Carter was. In response to Arafat's death, Clinton's seemed much more bitter than Carter's.

My guess is (though I'm not sure), that they also had great differences on trade...and they definetely did on the war. Carter was much more vocal in speaking out against the war. Clinton actually said he would have voted for the IWR resolution were he in congress (his wife did vote for it).

Clinton was by far the better politician - and was able to win reelection.

But I have to say that Carter is by far the better man.