Believe Powell's claims about Iran's nuclear program? Fool me once. . .

[bigtree]

Nuclear allegations on Iran unverified
U.S. officials checking evidence cited by Powell

Updated: 8:44 a.m. ET Nov. 19, 2004



According to one official with access to the material, a "walk-in" source approached U.S intelligence earlier this month with more than 1,000 pages purported to be Iranian drawings and technical documents, including a nuclear warhead design and modifications enabling Iranian ballistic missiles to deliver an atomic strike. The official agreed to discuss the information on the condition of anonymity and only because Powell had alluded to it publicly.

The official said the CIA remains unsure about the authenticity of the documents and how the informant came into their possession. A second official would say only that there are questions about the source of the information.

Officials interviewed by The Washington Post did not know the identity of the source or whether the individual is connected to an Iranian exile group that made fresh accusations about Iran at a news conference Wednesday in Paris. The National Council for Resistance in Iran charged that Iran was still enriching uranium and will continue to do so despite the pledge made Sunday to European foreign ministers.

The lack of certainty about the source who approached U.S. intelligence had kept officials from talking publicly about the information, and Powell's comments caught the small group of informed officials by surprise and angered some of them.

full article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6525369/

[Benhurst]

1. Hey, Colin: Who cares what you think? Shut-up! n/t

[Avalux]

2. I remember your speech Colin -

you know the one - where you sat in front of the UN and spewed lies about Iraq's WMDs. I remember it well. If you think you have any credibility whatsoever, you are sorely mistaken. Just go home already.

[heidiho]

3. OOOOhhh . . he showed satellite footage

Hmmm . . . reminds me of the ones he used at the UN! Better act quickly - oops, sorry again.

[bowens43]

4. Powell lies again but we already knew that.

It is safe to assume that anything and everything that comes from this administration is a lie.

[ElectroPrincess]

5. No way, Powell's even lost all sense of shame and morphed

into a "comical figure" in the eyes of the outside world looking in. He's becoming a laugh riot ... not credible in the least.

[unfrigginreal]

6. You are missing the bigger story here - the long knives are out for Powell

I'm no big Powell fan after he sold out to the devil but he's still many times better than any of the cretins he left behind in the administration. They are coming after him hard and that is not a good sign,

[bigtree]

9. There is no big story

If Powell had any credibility at all he would have resigned the minute he found out the information he had been fed by the CIA and encouraged to present to the nation and the world by Condi Rice and others was false. Instead he continues to hedge and prevaricate about the illegal war he sought sanction for in the U.N., even after he made repeated statements repudiating the 'intelligence that took us there. I refuse to tolerate ANYONE who provides cover for the counterfeit loser in the White House. Powell was treated as Belafonte said, as a house ****** and he has, in my AA opinion, behaved like one.

[unfrigginreal]

11. His credibility is still leaps and bounds above the rest of the Bush

cabal in my opinion.

[bigtree]

14. what good is it without action?

his damage is done, and now he is leaving. Good riddance.

[Karenca]

7. Colon Bowel

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!

(That feels good) :nuke:

The administration of the US: A bush, a dick and a colon.

(dishonorable mention: Cuntaleeza Rice and John Asscroft)

[bigtree]

8. This report is from three days ago:

U.N. Finds No Nuclear Bomb Program in Iran
Agency Report and Tehran's Deal With Europe Undercut Tougher U.S. Stance

By Dafna Linzer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 16, 2004; Page A18

In its most positive assessment of Iran in two years, the International Atomic Energy Agency reported yesterday that it had found no evidence the nation had a nuclear weapons program and that Tehran's recent cooperation with the agency has been very good.

The U.N. nuclear watchdog's report, along with Europe's acceptance of a wide-ranging nuclear agreement with Tehran, capped a pivotal day for the Islamic republic's relations with the West and left little chance for the Bush administration's Iran strategy to succeed in the near term.

U.S. officials, who agreed to discuss policy on the condition of anonymity, acknowledged that both the IAEA's upbeat tone and the European deal deeply undercut the White House's diplomatic drive to confront Iran now with the prospect of international sanctions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52673-2004Nov15.html


The Powell accusations sounds like a sleazy attempt to undercut the U.N. Where does a proven liar go to peddle his manufactured warmongering? Hopefully Powell will slide back into whatever rathole he calls home and takes his fascist son at the FCC with him.

[charlie]

10. It's not you I'm worried about

It's the nationwide mass of goobers who can't tell the difference between Saddam and Osama. They're the ones getting softened up for Gulf War III and they're the idiots who'll buy it.

[bigtree]

12. this is the new propaganda war

whatever the falsehood, they just put it out there and repeat it, no matter how many times they get called on it. There seem to be few of the checks and balances anymore in our government that would stop or restrain them from spreading obvious lies from positions of power. I don't believe the nation has experienced anything like this since the Wilson era assaults on civil liberties and the imperialistic warmongering of President Wilson.

[Q]

13. The issue is how to deal with it...not whether they have a program...

- A rational, sane leader would attempt use diplomacy and negotiate to end their quest for nukes. A sane leader would also recognize that his own quest for a new generation of nukes and a doctrine of aggressive war is the CAUSE of nuclear proliferation.

[bigtree]

15. The IAEA specifically cited Bush's push for new nukes as an obstacle to

dealing with countries like Iran who may seek nuclear weapons.

article:

Mohamed ElBaradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, has told senior American diplomats that developing new weapons could encourage other countries to violate the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.

"This is extremely serious," said Arjun Makhijani, the president of the Washington-based Institute of Energy and Environmental Research, which has produced a study of the Bush administration's developing nuclear weapons strategy. "The appeal to deterrence is a smokescreen. The desire is to develop nuclear weapons that can actually be used. The United States is in danger of being at the leading edge of proliferation."

The DSB document is the latest signal that the Bush administration is preparing to modernise its nuclear programme. In September the Senate passed a White House-backed plan to reduce the preparation time required for nuclear testing in Nevada. George Bush Snr had imposed a moratorium in 1992.

http://discuss.agonist.org/yabbse/index.php?board=1%3Baction=display%3Bthreadid=12761

[charlie]

16. Yes indeed

And it's a goddamn shame about Iran. Before Dub inserted them into his inane Axis of EEEvil, there were many encouraging indications Iranian society was moving away from the rule of the mullahs. The post-Khomeini generation were coming of age and were openly challenging their authoritarian masters. But, now they've got to worry about the neocons bringing them FREEDOM at the point of a gun. Oh well...

[bigtree]

17. kick

damnit

[bigtree]

18. Powell comes out front AGAIN with phony intelligence reports

trying to gin up another war, this time in Iran, before we are done fighting the other manufactured one in Iraq.

DU yawns. Goes back to playing snarky. Unbelievable. It's clear to me now how they put the last one by America. We will dither ourselves into whatever they pull. I'm beginning to wonder what we were really fighting for in the last election. Did we expect Kerry to carry all of the water for us? What is our responsibility to vigilance?

Here's my contact page: Join me?

http://www.returningsoldiers.us/contacts.htm

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