Bush twins turned away from NYC restaurant

[raggedcompany]

Celeb gossip site gawker reports:


Freemans tuesday night the 16th of nov. the bush twins along with 2 massive secret service men tried to have dinner they were told by the maitre 'd that they were full and would be for the next 4 years upon hearing the entire restaurant cheered and did a round of shots it was amazing!!! Ed: We're hearing that this is actually true.

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Hope it's true. As the post 9/11 slogan goes: I love NY more than ever!

[Maat]

1. Me, too!

[Dem Agog]

2. YAAAY!

GO NYC! I love you guys!

[AnIndependentTexan]

3. sounds like they won't be having any fun in blue states anytime soon

[DrWeird]

4. Freepers now re-hate NYC.

That's probably where they'll strike nexts. The McVeigh-types that is.

[durablend]

13. That was guaranteed anyway...

Just a matter of time...gotta get started culling those 55 million heretics sooner or later.

[firebee]

51. re-hate NYC????

I don't think re-hate's the correct term. I think we're looking for the words "Still hate". The freepers will still hate NYC. As for the Bush daughters??? It sucks to be them if they're not real keen on their daddy's policies, but they may be a couple of mind warped twits too. Either way, sock it to em'. If Bush is going to make my family miserable for the next four years, I don't see any reason why we shouldn't make his family miserable for the next four years. For every action, their is an equal reaction and Bush has committed a lot of negative actions, so you have to expect a lot of negative reaction. Balance has always been a key ingredient to the divine plan... if such a thing exists.

[Dark]

Well, at least Ann Coulter will be happy. nt

[kaitykaity]

5. I'm sorry, but this is just nasty.

Besides being related biologically to that Bastard,
those girls don't have a damn thing to do with his
policies.

Geez, next the Kerry girls won't get served somewhere,
or Chelsea.

Gross.

[porphyrian]

7. Bullshit, they both stumped for the fucking traitor.

Fuck them both. I hope they cried.

[kaitykaity]

18. Gee, I hope you won't have a problem then when the

red staters start to treat our girls the same way.

Tit for tat, all of that.

And I always hated Republicans for attacking the women
in a candidate's life.

Oh, well.


Gee, love all the hate, by the way. /NOT.

[DrWeird]

25. start?

Where have you been?

[lucabrasi]

27. Exactly

I'm originally from a red state and when I return I'm not exactly made to feel welcome. Maybe if I wore overalls or something...

[The Backlash Cometh]

40. Exactly. We don't feel welcomed in our own pool of red real estate.

Let the twins know how it feels. It should be part of the disclosure process when you sell a house as to what the composition is between Republican to Democrats.

[Cha]

141. Like the repukes couldn't

even bother to show up for Daschle's last speech.

How rude was that?

Give it to 'em New York ..show some of that famous New York rudeness!:D

[pbartch]

282. BUSH TWINS REFUSED ENTRANCE is all the talk on Google Groups!!!!

Here is a URL for BUSH TWINS refused..........

most of the entries relate to them being denied entry into the NY resturant. Serves the "First Slut-daughters" right.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&scoring=d&q=Bush+twins+refused

[TheDebbieDee]

59. LucaBrasi. I like your name. Now I've got the "Godfather" theme

song stuck in my head again. :-)

BTW, don't get caught sleeping with no fishes.

[lucabrasi]

Thanks

:toast:

[CatWoman]

227. took the words right out of my mouth!!!!

[Walt Starr]

26. Man, where have you been?

Sheesh!

[kaitykaity]

30. I don't think one of ours has been denied service at a business

like this.

Cite me a source please.

[natrat]

50. daschle's staff members

being frozen out of DC jobs by delay

[Booster]

129. Democrats being frozen out of meetings with Bush, something

a little more important than whether the twins get into a stupid restaurant. And anyone who they even suspected might heckle the twit during his campaign stomps; to me, that was a big one because he is supposed to be everybody's president not just the people who like him.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

52. Hey I'm gay and if I walk in holding hands with Misunderestimator

there's PLENTY of places that won't serve me. So the poor Bush girls got treated as second class citizens ONCE in their life...give em a taste of the real world.

[jumptheshadow]

204. Second class citizens for once

The way this country is going, you're probably looking at least one future President in that duo...

<grimacing>

[DenverDem]

61. I was run out of my dream job after 7 years of service in 2001

because I was an activist for Gore in Florida.

There's a source for you.

[Shae]

193. Doesn't bother me.

Their daddy is responsible for dividing this country in a way I haven't seen in my lifetime.
Sins of the father -- and all that.
If they hadn't campaigned for him, I might feel differently.
Seriously, if they had made reservations they probably would have gotten in. They likely expected to get into a popular, crowded restaurant in NYC without benefit of reservations. They are used to being treated like royalty and it doesn't bother me that they are taken down a notch.

[proudbluestater]

199. One of ours was not denied service,

But she was publicly derided by the Repukes because they decided she was not good looking enough. Chelsea is a lovely young woman, so undeserving of their insults, but that's their forte, insulting and demonizing.

[oldcoot]

219. Environmentalists have been treated poorly in the West

I have read about restaurants that have refused to serve environmentalists in some western states. I also have heard about environmentalists receiving death threats, which is far more serious. Although I do not have specific sources on hand, you may want to check back issues of High Country News for more information.

Normally, I would agree that it is unfair to hold the sins of the father (or mother) against the children. It would be especially mean to punish or condemn minor children (as Rush did to Chelsea) for their parents' actions. However, these women are not minors, they are adults. As adults, they chose to campaign for their father. By campaigning for their father, they were not only endorsing his policies but helped him get a second term.

[merh]

272. No, ours are subject to federal investigation and indictment

in an effort to weaken the democratic party and it's influence in the local and state elections. Their reputations are ruined, their finances depleted, their family lifes in shambles, all because they have to defend themselves against bogus charges that are continued and continued and prolonged, all for the sake of making an example of them.

They would much prefer being banned from a restaurant.

[porphyrian]

33. Wake up.

Where the fuck have you been? I can't speak for you, but my family's been under attack for over four years now, and I'm fucking sick of it. I'm fucking furious, and I don't understand how anyone else can't be. I don't give a single shit about anyone in that criminal fucking family, and I'll rejoice every time something bad happens to any of them. They deserve worse than they can suffer in a single lifetime, and I hope to see at least some of it before I die.

If you can't handle the hate, don't step in the line of fire.

[Walt Starr]

44. WELL SAID!!!!!

:thumbsup:

Hate is not strong enough a word for the way I feel about this criminal family.

[HEAVYHEART]

80. I love your post porphyrian!!!!!

:*

[porphyrian]

87. Aww, shucks...you're making me blush... - n/t

[Cha]

142. It's beyond

Shadenfruede..because bush has made so many people's lives miserable that it really is pay back is a bitch time.

And I applaud New Yorkers who had to go through a tragic miserable time because condi/rove/bush couldn't be bothered with August memos~

[CBHagman]

248. That's really what bothers me.

i.e, "New Yorkers who had to go through a tragic miserable time because condi/rove/bush couldn't be bothered with August memos."

It absolutely KILLS me that Bush went on vacation for a month before the September 11th attacks AND got that August 6th memo entitled "Bin Laden determined to attack in the U.S." And then, at the end of 2001, Bush said, "All in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." And then his policies are screwing up the country and the world. There's such incompetence, and I don't see proportionate outrage (Millions of protesters and activists, and the Bush is still in office).

Bush's incompetence would be pitiable if it weren't so dangerous.

[LiberalFighter]

288. I bet many of the NYers think that if gw* had been doing his job..

9/11 wouldn't had happen. And they would had been spared the results.

[opihimoimoi]

275. Bush unites us in our HATE..... its a direct consequence of being

an asshole....then they wonder why people hate them???

Try being benevolent, atruistic...perhaps the Hate Level would go down. But the Bush Boys are much too strident/arrogant/and myopic

result, more HATE.

They WANT us to HATE, They are making it their THEME...in a subdued way of course...but lookit the evidence.

[okieinpain]

86. sadly I have to agree with you.

[Andromeda]

111. Red staters have been treating...

Dem women that way for a long time. Rush Limpballs called Chelsea the "White House dog" and they continue to rip Hillary to shreds at every opportunity. They were on Teresa Kerry's case all during the campaign because she is a strong opinionated woman and not a Stepford wife like Laura Bush.

What goes around comes around.

[LiberalFighter]

289. But it will never come near the level that repugs impose on us.

[Carolina]

116. the Kerry kin, etc. won't

likely come the red states (or the red sections of red states) since red staters in this BLUE county of SC showed their ugliness toward Elizabeth Edwards last spring. That's right y'all, Mrs. Edwards was at the Columbia campus (i.e. the MAIN campus) of the the state's flagship university, the University of South Carolina, and the young repukes shouted her down. She kindly reminded them to mind their manners and show some southern charm and hospitality but of course they know only boorish, disruptive behavior.

So fuck the drunken twins: Gin and Tonic and hip, hip, hooray to NYCers. The gloves are off!

[Rooktoven]

138. that assumes there are nice restaurants and clubs in red states,

or that those who run such clubs are repukes. Repukes don't run fun establishments.


damn, I'll never get served in Armpit Mississippi, now.

[ruggerson]

160. Who the hell goes to a red state to eat a decent meal>? n/t

[Make7]

194. LOL (nt)

[BlueCaliDem]

168. Sorry to Burst Your Bubble, but Red-Staters *Already*

show hatred, and disdain for Blue-Staters even before 2001!

I was on one of those chat forums Compuserve powers, and everyone was funny, and cordial, and nice--up until I mentioned I'm from California!

This was in April 2000!

The response?
"Oh, I get it. You're from that liberal, baby-killing, tree-hugging state. Tells me enough about you."

And promptly flipped friends to foe. I suddenly felt like the monster of Frankenstein with lit torches, and pitchforks crowding behind me to make me leave!

For all this guy (there were more like him on that forum) knew, I was one of those Republicans from San Diego, or Orange County, Bakersfield, or San Fernando Valley (where Ronald W Reagan's library is located) where they still reside in pockets of their uppity ilk.

So, I guess I can understand the New Yorkers when the Bush twins entered the restaurant, and were booed outta there.

I'm not condoning it, but I understand.

Their father campaigned on hate, discrimination, and religious bigotry. Now they've experienced, first hand, what it feels like from our side of the divide.

[RaleighNCDUer]

181. I've got no sympathy for those girls.

You know, don't you, that when all is said and done, when all the partying is over, they will both find some fine young fascist to graft onto the Walker/Bush family tree.

The whole family is evil, and they attract evil to themselves. We're all better off if they keep their distance.

[LiberalFighter]

290. Hopefully unable to procreate...

but they will probably do it on the side and give the facist the credit.

[mitchtv]

252. Red states? what would anyone like the kerrys or chelsea

be doing in a red state- certainly not fine dining Hahahahahaha
Emergency landing in a flyover state airport diner maybe.

[prodigal_green]

303. You ever try driving down south with a New York license plate?

Blue Staters (particularly New Yorkers) are targeted by rednecks all the time (note, I said rednecks, not red-staters. Rednecks are now officially those who voted red, regardless of their geographic location).

I have large parts of my family in the south and I get asked some of the most butt-ignorant questions all the time about New York City by perfect strangers or people feel it is perfectly OK to slam my hometown just because I'm there (usually during a retail transaction or some other instance where they are on the receiving end of my cash).

[Jack_DeLeon]

91. I agree with kaitykaity...

yeah you say they stumped for Bush, well duh they are his daughters.

I personally have no problem with the restaurant not serving them. It is privately owned and they have the right to refuse service to whoever they want to.

However to moderates, and independents it makes us look bad, it makes us look petty.

[porphyrian]

93. Fuck moderates and independants.

Pandering to those wishy-washy idiots has lost us the last three major elections. How many times do we have to hit the wall with our face to acknowledge that it's there?

[sierrajim]

166. Attitude

The reason the dems lost is this kind of shitty attitude.
Jim

[regnaD kciN]

195. B*llsh*t!

We've been genuflecting in the direction of "moderates and independents" the last three election cycles or more, even at the cost of sticking the shiv in other Democrats if we thought "moderates and independents" would approve. Hasn't done a damn thing.

[desi826]

320. Again.....

"We've been genuflecting in the direction of "moderates and independents" the last three election cycles or more, even at the cost of sticking the shiv in other Democrats if we thought "moderates and independents" would approve. Hasn't done a damn thing."

John Kerry got 54% of Moderate Repubs, while the Idiot onhly got 14% of Conservative Dems.
In plain english, Kerry got more Repubs than the Republican candidate.

John Kerry got 59% of Independants, Bush got 41.

Do the math.

The numbers don't add up. Kerry SHOULD have won.

We will never see another White House until Dems face the reality of the fact that Repubs are trying to institutionalize vote fraud and start fighting.
Des

[Shae]

196. s'cuse me, but ...

The Repubs had rather shitty attitudes the last time I looked, and they won.

[robbedvoter]

208. Andrew Sullivan, that you? Pssst! We won! Pass it on!

And the girls are of age, campaigned for daddy and profit from his illgotten gains/power. Glad my city is not their barf bin amymore!

[Chelsea Patriot]

231. Miss Mary Muscle Glutes, The Lady von Bare Back in the House?

Are you and Tina visiting, Andy?

[porphyrian]

233. Wrong.

The reason Democrats lost is because our leadership continues to try to imitate republicans in a bid for some mysterious swing vote that never materializes.

[LiberalFighter]

291. That is part of the problem...

Weak knee Democrats trying to pacify right wing Repugs with the hope that they will be reasonable and vote for Democrats.

Excuse me... we don't need them to vote for Democrats. We need independents to vote for Democrats. They are likely to be more reasonable.

[mitchtv]

255. treacherous Dems like Zell miller

and others like them get the hint newbie?

[architect359]

258. Give me a break!

As if the repubs don't do this already in their attitude to us?! Goddamnit!

[desi826]

319. Wrong

Dems "lost" because of vote fraud. Period. Attitude has nothing to do with it.
Des

[Arkana]

247. Amen, porphyrian.

I've had enough of being the party that lies down and gets trampled on to please the middle. Fuck 'em. Let the Bush whores, er...twins get a taste of second-class citizenship for once.

[Eurobabe]

251. don't blame THIS Indy, I vote with the Dems since 1992.

eom

[porphyrian]

299. OK, you're excused. - n/t

[datasuspect]

261. true dat

because they end up being republicans anyway.

[Tsiyu]

273. Well, the next thing you know, Democrats will be

spending more than was spent on the 9/11 investigation, investigating a Bush* blowjob!

And questioning Mc Cain's military record!

And talking trash about the President while he's trying to solve the world's problems through the "Better-Leading-While-On-Vacation" Program....

Because we all know Repukes are above slander and snubbing and and acting like absolute bullies.

porphyrian, I say :yourock:

[desi826]

318. A slight correction

"Pandering to those wishy-washy idiots has lost us the last three major elections."

No, actually Indys have been trending away from the Repub party for the last three elections and John Kerry got the majority of both moderate Rebublican and Indy voters this year.

"How many times do we have to hit the wall with our face to acknowledge that it's there?"

I agree, but not for the same reason.
We lost the last three election cycles because of vote fraud.
Plain and simple.
How many Democratic Presidential terms are we going to allow Repubs to steal from us until we start fighting this seriously?
Des

[mitchtv]

253. sorry out that jack

sorry about all the "things that make us look bad" .

[lgardengate]

139. Come on! He's there father! What will we say when...

Chelsea,or the Kerry girls or Teressa etc gets the same treatment in a red state or by a bush voter.Don't think it wont happen once they hear about this.
Now i can believe secssion may happen.Don't forget the red states out number us.

[saracat]

150. And the red states would be a third world country!

We don't need them for anything.Secede, you bastards!

[ObaMania]

159. And besides..

.. all "Blue" states have to do is latch on to Canada (please, Canada.. pretty please?!)

[saracat]

167. Nice, but we don't actually need them! But it is an option!

[mondo joe]

175. The red states DEPEND on the blue for tax $ and purchases

Let them start turning blues away.

I can't wait.

[GinaMaria]

220. Amen, the red state tax whiners get more

in Fed tax dollars than they put in. Blue States? They get back far less than they pay in. Screw 'em. Let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps and take some personal responsibility.

We prefer to educate our children, care for our elderly, and not cause wars. Let 'em go. I and many others won't fight to keep them.

[proudbluestater]

202. Not worried about the red states outnumbering us

WE GOT ALL THE MONEY. WE PAY THE TAXES THAT PROVIDE THEIR SERVICES.

[porphyrian]

234. I don't give a fuck what their relationship is.

They stumped for a traitor. I hate them all.

[datasuspect]

264. the republican smear

machine for EIGHT (8) YEARS did everything in their power to besmirch/insult/malign/slander/destroy bill clinton, his wife, their daughter, and even socks (the fucking cat).

so the bush harlots get booted from a restaurant? let me get out my tissues. boo hoo.

[Bake]

158. Hell yeah!!!

They campaigned for Daddy Dearest. Fuck 'em; ignorant sluts.

Bake

[tishaLA]

10. My tears are terribly wet

as I cry for them.

[datasuspect]

265. i know

they probably had to go to some other fancy restaurant to get $1000 worth of food and booze comped..

[Wickerman]

11. I'm not sure its right

but must say that they actively campaigned for dear old dad.

[Bucky]

This is a pretty mild form of civil disobedience.

In the 1770s the Sons of Liberty did some pretty nasty property damage to royal officials' homes. It was uncivil, but it wasn't deadly. This incident wasn't even violent, but it may cost them business from Republican diners. They are truly putting their money where their mouths are.

[aquart]

54. This is NYC. WHAT Republican diners?

[Walt Starr]

14. OH YES THEY DO BEAR RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE BASTARD'S POLICIES!!!!

They campaigned for his ass, so they are JUST AS RESPONSIBLE!

I will NO let the little HARLOTS off the hook because they're utter morons!

[kaitykaity]

24. Oh, bullshit.

Like they can go into the white hosue and say "dad do it
this way."

BUSH isn't even responsible for most of his own policies.
He's too fucking stupid and disconnected to know any better.
He does what he's told.

Attacking these girls is cheap, unattractive, petty, childish,
and moronic.

I thought we were better than that.

[Walt Starr]

28. I'll put it to you this way, every motherfucker who voted for the bastard

is my MORTAL ENEMY FOR LIFE!!!!

No more playing games. This shit is for real and these HARLOTS deserve worse than being refused service in an upscale nightclub.

[kaitykaity]

36. You need to take a pill and calmn down.

Being angry is all fine and well and good, but it's too
bad it's being wasted on these kids when the REAL ENEMIES
are the policy makers and the media whores.

I mean, get real. How many REAL votes did these two
idiot girls bring in? Seriously.

[Walt Starr]

42. NO FUCKING WAY!

They brought in THOOUSANDS OF VOTES.

Didn't you hear, they went on campuses all over the country giving away beer for votes.

[MADem]

179. Beer for votes!

And people were bitching about Michael Moore's ramen noodles and clean underwear!!!!

[aquart]

55. They have stigmatized us for years.

The evil they teach us we will imitate.

And it shall go hard but we will better the instruction.

This is a really bad place to ask people to play nice.

We did play nice. We played by the rules. But there are no more rules.

[Bake]

162. Right on! Not the time or place to ask us to "play nice."

I say, FUCK 'EM ALL.

Bake

[regnaD kciN]

197. I was about to post a real snarky reply...

...on how Jenna might like that. But I decided not to.

:evilgrin:

[fujiyama]

76. So would you be complaining

if they treated Barbara Bush like this? This is the problem with liberals. They will always treat the conservatives with respect no matter how much they are shit on. Why treat them with respect they would never treat you with?

Sure it may not be very nice, but this is what happens. As someone said, this is an equal and opposite reaction to Bush's policies. If the Bush twins feel bad about their dad's policies they should distance themselves from their father.

Instead they actively campaigned for them.

Go ahead and shed tears. NYC is probably the second biggest victim of Bush's policies (after Iraq). I say good on them for telling the Bush family that they hate em.

It's not like they did anything physically harmful.

[SittingInTheMiddle]

94. NYC a victim of Bush's policies?

"Go ahead and shed tears. NYC is probably the second biggest victim of Bush's policies (after Iraq)"

Um....huh?

A good portion of the world may "hate" US policy since B took over as president...especially in the past 2 years since the threats against Iraq ramped up...you'll get no disagreement from me on that....but unless I'm reading you wrong, you're blaming the 9/11 attacks...on Bush?

With all due respect (especially since I'm the friggin' newbie here)...that's...ridiculous.

Al Q's been planning to attack us (nay, HAS been attacking us) for 10 years or so before Junior took office. 9/11 attack preparations really picked up in about '96 or so. Clinton knew about bin Laden and had even given the order on multiple occasions to take him out.

The reason the Islamic extremists hate us so much is pretty simple. Israel. They can't stand the fact that we stand behind Israel. They believe our country is "controlled by jews".

The hatred intensified when we hung around after kicking Hussein out of Kuwait (with UN and pretty much global support, unlike this time around), of course, and in '98 bL issued a fatwa declaring Jihad on the US citizens as well as Israelis....

For all the "Bushitler" references floating around DU, frankly, about the only thing that might've prevented the 9/11 attacks would be if we _HAD_ in fact elected someone who said "Fuck Israel" and pulled our support and severed our ties.

Now, you wanna bash Bush, don't think I'm going to stop you (or defend him)....

[Cheswick2.0]

107. You are wrong about so many things I hardly know where to start

So I will start with this question: Can you supply any evidence or even a reliable story in tne news that proves Clinton had oportunities to take out Bin Laden?

[SittingInTheMiddle]

114. Don't get me wrong...

I'm not blaming Clinton or his people...OBL's a slippery bastard to be sure.

To answer your question...how 'bout 12/30/01 NY Times for starters?

Referenced here, article still searchable on NY Times site (you can use bugmenot.com to get an ID if you want to read NYT originals)

http://www.wanttoknow.info/011230nytimes

By means of 'fair use'...the remainder of this post is (c) New York Times...

On at least four occasions, Mr. Clinton sent the C.I.A. a secret "memorandum of notification," authorizing the government to kill or capture Mr. bin Laden and, later, other senior operatives. The C.I.A. then briefed members of Congress about those plans.

The C.I.A. redoubled its efforts to track Mr. bin Laden's movements, stationing submarines in the Indian Ocean to await the president's launch order. To hit Mr. bin Laden, the military said it needed to know where he would be 6 to 10 hours later — enough time to review the decision in Washington and program the cruise missiles.

[leesa]

133. Oh Please. "OBLs a slippery bastard and all" The guy's on dialysis

for God's sake. He needs hospitals and electricity and continuous medical care. If he's alive at all, the US knows EXACTLY where he is and they always have.

Man, you are naive!

[Contrary1]

149. There are several forms of dialysis

and they don't all require hospitals, electricity or big machines.
Many people opt for home dialysis which consists of a catheter and a couple plastic bags. Gravity takes care of the rest.

I would assume this would be the type of treatment OBL has, if he even requires it at all. I'm not sure that it has ever been verified.

[GinaMaria]

287. there are different forms of dialysis, none of them comfortable

or particularly convienient. The type of dialysis you refer to is peritoneal dialysis. It involves using the peritoneal lining in the abdomen like a filter. It is time consuming, and carries a risk of infection. I think it would be pretty risky to do this daily in a cave.

[SittingInTheMiddle]

120. And by the way...

You said I'm wrong "in so many ways"...

I said the following things:

1. World hates US policy due to Bush. Duh. No proof needed.

2. Islamists have been attacking us for years....Beirut '84...the WTC bombing in the early 90s, the USS Cole, etc...our embassies abroad...all by Islamist extremists and all long before the 2000 election.

3. I said Clinton had given orders to smoke OBL - I just provided a cite.

4. I said that the Islamists main "beef" with us is Israel. Perhaps I'm stretching a touch to say "main", but I said so by inference and allowed a bit of my own (US) frame of reference play into it. They (al qaida / islamists) have two main beefs with us. ONE of which is of course the fact that we're STILL THERE (in the middle east) with troops. The second is that we support Israel.

From the aforementioned 1998 fatwa...translated of course (I can provide a link to the original arabic if you'd like)..."Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there."

I (admittedly stretching things a LITTLE) infer/imply that we are "STILL THERE" in the middle east just as much, if not moreso, to protect Israel as we are for any other reason (ie oil, liberating Kuwait back then, etc).

I mean...face it...we've sold Israel most of their best military hardware and work together with them on intelligence. The islamic world generally sees the US and Israel as equivalent threats.

So...what exactly do you think I'm so wrong on, and what's YOUR source?

[Starlight]

122. What, you don't think Bush's policies are bad for NYC???

Have you read the 9-11 report or the book "Against All Enemies"? Do you have any idea how badly the Bush administration mishandled the terrorism threat prior to 9-11? Obviously you didn't & you don't.

Do you understand how damaging Bush's policies have been for NYC? Do you realized that NY is 35th in funding for terrorism? And WY is 1st? Again, probably not.

http://www.house.gov/maloney/press/108th/20040806HomelandFunding.htm

[SittingInTheMiddle]

124. Numbers can say many things.

I do not dispute what you say about about NY being 35th in funding PER CAPITA. I haven't checked, but it looks pretty close.

However...

New York is getting the absolute most dollars in terrorism funds - $330 million. That's 15 times Wyoming's 21 millon.

Now, looking at things another way...New York is 54,475 square miles. Wyoming is 97,818. New York is getting $6057 per square mile. Wyoming is getting $214.

Wyoming has a population of around 500,000. NY has a population of 19,000,000. In order to make the states receive the same per capita, to match Wyoming's (1 year) total of $42.80 per person, that would be 813 million dollars...nearly 1/4 of the total budgeted amount.

Of course, you could always scale back Wyoming from 21 million to $5 million for parity...

You could also say that the District of Columbia is getting almost as much money as the state of Wyoming....

Hmmmm. Texas is under $9/capita. Don't ya think if it were bush playing favorites he'd protect the good ol' boys?

NY _IS_ the financial center of the country, and will always be a prime target. I think they're getting a pretty large chunk of the terrorism budget to go along with it.

The only state that comes CLOSE to the dollars NY is getting is California, and NY has that beat by 10%. Next is Texas, which is only getting ~ 60% of NY.

Hey, I'm no bush defender. There've been plenty of screwups on terrorism and other things. But they are NOT unique to this administration. I can't remember the last president who I don't feel screwed the pooch in major ways. I don't remember jack shit about Ford, but kennedy/nixon/carter/reagan/bush/clinton/bush...all have done plenty of things I don't care for.

But this is getting off topic.

[Starlight]

127. No, you obviously ARE a Bush supporter.

Your entire post was defending Bush & his insane policy. Maybe you'd be happier with likeminded people over at freerepublic.

[SittingInTheMiddle]

128. Sorry, but you're incorrect.

Fact is the way you responded to my post, there was nothing I could say short of kissing your ass that would fend off a "you're a bush supporter" response like this.

I disagree far too strongly with the way we were railroaded into iraq and bringing religion into politics to support him.

That doesn't mean I have agree with everything that's opposite him, either.

[leesa]

132. I blame the 9-11 attacks on Bush. I am certain he was involved.

Even on the off chance he didn't pull it off, which I think is highly unlikely, he KNEW in advance that it was coming and did NOTHING!

Your hero is a lying fraud and a murderous criminal.


Wake up!

[Cha]

143. Yeah, I'm blaming bush/condi/rove

for 9/11..You ever hear of the August memo?

You ever see bush sitting in a classroom listening to a damn story when New York was on Fire?

[fujiyama]

257. If you believe

Bush's policies HAVEN'T been bad for NYC, then you've obviously been asleep.

Maybe you don't know about Bush ignoring the terrorist threat once he was in office - the August PDB for one.

Maybe you haven't paid attention to Richard Clarke's testimony.

Or better yet, Bush's decision to LIE about the air quality in Manhattan after the attacks.

Please tell me how NYC ISN'T a victim of Bush's policies?

I'm not even sure why I'm replying to you because if you are defending Bush's policies on terrorism, then you obviously aren't on the right forum.

[porphyrian]

53. Everyone who helped elect bush is a fucking traitor.

They are a traitor to America, they are a traitor to the environment, they are a traitor to Democracy, they are a traitor to humanity, and I fucking hate every single one of them. Glad I'm not alone.

[Name removed]

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[saracat]

151. Thank You Walt. I feel the same way!

And I just got blasted by my party members and called immature on this board countless times.I am glad someone else feels the way I do, and isn't apologetic!

[Coventina]

230. AMEN BROTHER!!!

Why the fuck are those little skanks not in Iraq?!?!?!?!

[Blue_Tires]

239. a-fuckin'- men

we are dealing with the future of the country and the world here with these madmen in control...it ain't fun&games anymore, and the old moderate attitudes that "the country will be just fine no matter WHO is president" go out the goddamn window

[Beetwasher]

37. Fuck That!

The last time these two "lovely" girls were in NY, they had a party in a club/restaurant and were comped like 4 grand in booze and then THEY STIFFED THE WAITSTAFF!!

Just remember that when you criticize this guy for not letting them in. These "lovely" girls will expect to take over the whole place because of their security (which means no other customers, IOW, bad for business) be comped everything (because after all, why shouldn't they be, right?) and then stiff everyone. The guy is running a business after all, why should he let these entitled dimwits ruin his business for a day? He should take a loss just for the honor of having these "lovely" girls shit all over him and his staff and then be stiffed?

Fuck 'em.

[bossfish]

62. Maybe the "bad tipping" was the reason for the refusal...

...that would be the way to spin it to anyone who gets outraged (provided the story is even true).

"The staff of the restaurant decided that the economic opportunity of serving someone else was greater. The Bush twins and the secret service escort would have disrupted our turnover of tables. Add the fact that they're notoriously poor on the tips it just doesn't make good sense for us to do so."

[fishwax]

72. ha ha! sounds reasonable to me

:toast:

[saracat]

153. Why do we have to spin it? Who cares if they are outraged?

Fuck them. They weren't let in because we hate them and their family. That is the reasonAnd maybe they are cheap and selfish too! But mostly ,we hate them.Why is that bad?

[Bake]

165. Hell yeah! That's just good ol' capitalism at work!

Too bad it bit the Twins in the ass!

Bake

[proudbluestater]

203. The girls are only taking after daddy

Like their hearty partying and forgetting to pay, he came twice to my town (a DEMOCRATIC stronghold), campaigning twice this summer/fall and has not paid the town one DIME for the extra expenses he incurred while CAMPAIGNING. He and Cheney together were hear 3-4 times. Never paid a nickel out of the campaign funds they raised and they are required to.

Edwards came once. Sent a check pronto.

[NervousRex]

305. The restaurant was defending it's liquor supply.

Gin-A and Beerbara would have sucked the joint dry and stiffed the bill.

[ElectroPrincess]

45. Nope, I was raised in a home of practical jokers ...

We all loved each other but it was a "free for all." People here don't mean DA twins any harm but they sure are fair game. People that came to visit either "kept up" or left in an uppity huff. No loss. Admit it - it's fun to hear of the the "ultra privileged" being put in THAR place and the end of the line. <eg>

BTW I forwarded the gawker article to several friends.

Hilarious! <snicker>

[emulatorloo]

47. Please stop excusing GWB - he knows exactly what he is doing

he aint dumb. He studied at the feet of Lee Atwater and Barbara Bush. He bears responsibility for what he does.

[aquart]

58. We were. And we had our futures ground in the dust for it.

If they are still relying on our natural civility, I would say, don't count on it.

I do not choose to reward thieves. These girls profit daily from the thefts of their father. Have they turned it down?

[pretzel4gore]

97. you know, of course, that this must end in bloodshed...

you can see that the repukes are criminals of worst sort, and it's them or us.....geebush himself even said it....the girls are the least of the innocent in my concern

[JI7]

152. they ENDORSED his fucking policies

they went around talking about how important it is that the fucking asshole gets elected.

[Bake]

161. Have you lost your damn mind???

The Bush* twins aren't responsible? Even Smirk isn't responsible?

Talk about being in denial!! Sheesh!

Hell YES they are ALL responsible!! And they are my mortal enemies.

Bake

[Miami Liberal]

66. My sentiments exactly n/t

[Beetwasher]

19. You Haven't Been Paying Attention

First of all, they stumped for their asshole of a father quite publically, so obviously the DO support his policies.

Second of all, the last time they were in NY they went to a club/restaurant, locked it down because they were there, got comped like 4 grand in booze and then stiffed the service staff.

Fuck 'em.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

21. "those girls don't have a damn thing to do with his policies."

I beg to differ. For the past several months, they were "employed" by the * campaign, working to keep * in the WH. Whether they were volunteers or they received pay, they knew exactly what they were doing.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

[Stephanie]

39. Those girls campaigned for that f*cker every SINGLE DAY

And they put NYC through hell in 2001 and this past August. Freemans is my new favorite restaurant. I think I'll go there tonight!

[tryn2getit]

71. He's their father...

...for gosh sakes.

[dflprincess]

113. I don't recall Patty Davis or Ron Reagan campaigning

for their daddy.

The twins could have sat the election out or - if they had any brains - stood up to daddy and campaigned against him.

[Siyahamba]

241. Exactly!

I was thinking the same thing about Reagan's children.

Something else I found odd during this election was Maya Keyes campaigning with her dad. She must depend on him for college tuition or something. :shrug:

[saracat]

154. That is exactly the point!

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree and they are just as vile as he is!

[mondo joe]

172. Biology doesn't trump morality

They didn't have to campaign for the nasty shit.

[Cha]

144. Have fun!

This is later but if you did go ..I hope you thanked them for us!

The ones who thought it was a patriotic thing to do :)

[DelawareValleyDem]

46. The abuse Chelsea took

for eight years from FatBoy Rush and the like doesn't compare to this.
Furthermore, the girls were out trolling for his policies so they certainly are fair game. They want to get served, I'm sure they can find a dive bar in the Bronx.

[raggedcompany]

56. the Bronx

has little love for Bush or his progeny. It does however have plenty of dive bars, which is a good thing. Don't be down on the Bronx.


/I live in the Bronx

[hiphopnation]

63. Agreed. What's the point of this?

[JohnOneillsMemory]

232. Attacking the messenger WORKS in TV Nation's celebrity-tinged lens

of 'morality' perception.

Much the same way that people can comprehend one murder but not thousands. Put a human face on problems to get them to stick in our audience's minds.

We are fighting MASS MURDER and ECO-DISASTER that might end our species. TAKE THE GLOVES OFF NOW.
Effective tactics of combat are MANDATORY and RESPONSIBLE.

To save the planet, the ends justifies the means.
Harsh to liberals, but we must Deal with It be shoveled into the ovens as nice people.

DON'T BE 'NICE' KINDLING FOR THE FASCIST MACHINE. FIGHT!

[hiphopnation]

254. spare me your lecture

This isn't 'fighting'. It's reverberation tunnel madness on a story that hasn't been corroborated or substantiated. Go punch it in google you'll find the only other place it comes up, besides the original site, is none other than Free Republic. Telling, that.

[mondo joe]

242. The point is satisfaction.

Same way I'm not spending my dollars at Bush supporter stores.

And frankly, I'd quit before I'd wait on these shitty twins.

[hiphopnation]

256. you should take the advice

of your own sig line.

[mondo joe]

260. My sig line isn't advice. It's commentary.

[hiphopnation]

267. true enough

commentary that seems lost on you. oh the irony.

[mondo joe]

268. Go live in fear of offending Free Republic.

I'm not doing it.

[hiphopnation]

279. what else won't you do

you know, besides wait to see if a story is substantiated before using it as an excuse to trash people you don't even know?

Before you respond, if you don't need this story as an excuse to trash the Bush twins, why not start a thread titled "The Official Trashing the Bush Twins Thread"? It'd probably be more productive than this shitty excuse for a thread in the General Discussion forum of a political chat site. God, I'm getting sick of DU...:eyes:

Before you respond: let's go...everyone start in with the 'good riddance' and 'don't let the door hit ya in the ass' posts....here they come....I can just feel them....ready...and...GO!

:puke::nuke::puke::nuke::puke::nuke::puke::nuke::puke::nuke:

[mondo joe]

281. This event, actual or not, doesn't change anything about the twins

They campaigned for an anti-civil rights agenda, an anti-provacy agenda and an illegal war agenda.

However pitiful, they did what they could to support that agenda, which puts them in the same club as Karen Hughes, Karl Rove and the rest. If it were my restaurant I'd refuse service to any of them, proudly.

I don't know why you think these spoiled shits are not accountable for their own choices, and I don't care.

[hiphopnation]

284. not surprised with this leap to conclusion....

I don't know why you think these spoiled shits are not accountable for their own choices, and I don't care.

Good luck with your vitriol. I hope it wins elections.

[mondo joe]

286. Good luck with your timidity. It sure worked for Gore and Kerry.

Maybe it'll work for you.

[hiphopnation]

294. yes

because the opposite of trashing people I don't know for no reason, other than to commiserate, is timidity. Phew, that's some twisted logic you've got there. It's making me tired!

[mondo joe]

298. Trashing people you don't know? Trashing the actions you DO know.

Do I have to be a personal friend of each ofthe Bush twins to acknowledge that they're shit?

I know they supported and campaigned for an anti-civil rights agenda and an illegal ar.

What else PRECISELY do I need to know?

[hiphopnation]

310. nothing friend

you go on with yourself. Trash away. As I said before, good luck with it and I hope that it ultimately serves a positive end e.g. winning elections, affecting progressive change etc. I wish you all the best.

[mondo joe]

313. I don't share your battered wife syndrome

Good luck grabbing your ankles for the Republican Masters.

[tryn2getit]

70. I agree...

I thought we were supposed to be the party of tolerance, and it was the other party that was intolerant.

But it seems that more and more, we are acting like the intolerant ones. I don't like this at all...

[fujiyama]

82. We are acting like the intolerant ones?

Hmmmm, I'm usually not one to comment on the number of posts someone has but...

[Carolina]

118. we WERE tolerant

now we're pissed.

If 1994 was the year of the angry, white male
then
2004 and beyond marks the emergence of the:
Angry
Intolerant
Fuck 'Em All
Ain't Gonna Take It Anymore
LIBERAL!

[RetroLounge]

134. Excuse me if I doubt you as part of the "WE"

RL

[Cha]

145. Too bad! WE're the "PARTY"

that's working to get our Democracy back..Our Country Back!

Like the poster said.."if you can't stand the hate ..get out of the line of fire!"

[Arkana]

249. So, you'd rather we just rolled over like usual?

Tip: When you have a low post count, I'd try to avoid topics like this.

[louis c]

99. They Suck

and Their Father Sucks.

They deserve to be reviled where ever they go.

I will be at Fenway Park on opening day, and will be booing Curt Shilling for the same reason. No one should ever forget the pieces of shit that have defiled our nation, and let them know that every time we can.

[Cha]

146. Give 'em an extra

"boo" for me!

[leesa]

131. They campaigned for the bastard.

[Generic Other]

155. This isn't nasty. Ekaterinberg was nasty

that's where you'll find the last tsarinas.

[0007]

156. 'Ya don't think so?


Jenna sez fuck you too!

[Dr Fate]

236. They campaigned for a lying murderer.

Dont care if it was DADDY or not.

This is the knid of thing we we need to do- boycott REPUBLICANS.

[jmatthan]

259. What a short memory

Remember the lady who lost her job just because she had a Kerry sticker on her car?

She was interviewed by Guy James and I heard her live!!!

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland

[Dorian Gray]

300. I agree....

Why should anyone be denied service due to their political beliefs. I personally think that this is a slippery slope. If it becomes acceptable to not allow "them" into "our" restaurants, we are opening up a big can of worms that I don't really want to set loose.

[Dorian Gray]

301. I agree....

Why should anyone be denied service due to their political beliefs. I personally think that this is a slippery slope. If it becomes acceptable to not allow "them" into "our" restaurants, we are opening up a big can of worms that I don't really want to set loose.

[Dorian Gray]

302. I agree....

Why should anyone be denied service due to their political beliefs. I personally think that this is a slippery slope. If it becomes acceptable to not allow "them" into "our" restaurants, we are opening up a big can of worms that I don't really want to set loose.

[mondo joe]

304. Would you expect a Jew to welcome a neo nazi into his deli?

The Bush agenda is nothing less than an attack on the civil rights and safety of Americans.

Would you condemn a Jew for denying service to a neo nazi?

[madmax]

6. Awe... not nice.

j/k New York I love ya!! :loveya: :bounce: :thumbsup:

[NJ_Lib]

8. I hope this is true...

I would get great pleasure from knowing this really happened...

Hope the restaraunt has a good accountant... They'll need one...

[Quill Pen]

9. Now that made my day!

:toast:

Although, seeing 's how restaurants make the lion's share of their profits off bar tabs, thanks to hefty liquor markups...you start to get a sense of how strong the restauranteur's convictions really are. After all, the Bush twins probably could have subsidized a yacht purchase with a single night of drinking.

[Walt Starr]

17. They habitually stiff on the bills

They are known for not paying the bill or leaving tips.

[wicket]

29. Well, they are princesses after all

:eyes: Bleh, they make me sick.

[Stinky The Clown]

98. Its called "entitlement" and if my kids ever did that

I'd smack the hell out of 'em. I guess it just depends on what your upbringing is.

[Beetwasher]

48. Well, That Would Be True BUT They EXPECT TO BE COMPED!

They don't pay.

As a matter of fact, the last time they were in NY they had a party at a club/restaurant and were comped like 4 grand in booze and then stiffed the waitstaff.

This guy did the right thing for his business by turning them away. I'm sure he knows about their escapades in NY and wanted no part of being shit upon by them.

[Nordic]

12. awesome

HA

[Book Lover]

15. Even if it's not true,

that is one great New York story. I love my hometown!!

[hatrack]

16. Now I REALLY love New York!

This is AWESOME!!! :toast:

[49jim]

20. When Hillary and Bill

were vacationing in upstate New York....one small resturant owner (Doug's Fish Fry)...Doug said he wouldn'd serve them if they came into his business.

[raggedcompany]

106. I remember that.

Camille Paglia cheered for Doug in Salon.com

Go figure.

[regnaD kciN]

198. Pot, meet kettle...

I wonder how many Repugs who will bleat sanctimoniously about how "we shouldn't mistreat the Bush twins just because we dislike their father" will turn out to be the same ones who were cheering when a columnist for the National Review suggested that Chelsea Clinton be killed as a precautionary measure, because she "bears the genetic stain" of her family?

:shrug:

[raggedcompany]

209. got a link for that? n/t

[robbedvoter]

217. "Kill Chelsea Clinton" - by John Derbyshire - 2001

Will try to look it up in my archives

[LisaM]

22. Now they know how we feel....

so I don't feel bad for them, and they did campaign for their father - worse, they campaigned for him with a bunch of sound bites, didn't discuss policy or anything. Maybe this will clue them in to the reality of how this administration affects people.

[lucabrasi]

23. Now I have to check this place out

True or not it's a great story and they have pretty good ratings.

[raggedcompany]

68. you can bet they'll have

an uptick in reservations once this story breaks to the Post and the News

[Beetwasher]

31. Anyone Criticizing This Restauranteur REMEMBER THIS STORY

The last time these two "lovely" girls were in NY, they had a party in a club/restaurant and were comped like 4 grand in booze and then THEY STIFFED THE WAITSTAFF!!

Just remember that when you criticize this guy for not letting them in. These "lovely" girls will expect to take over the whole place because of their security (which means no other customers, IOW, bad for business) be comped everything (because after all, why shouldn't they be, right?) and then stiff everyone. The guy is running a business after all, why should he let these entitled dimwits ruin his business for a day? He should take a loss just for the honor of having these "lovely" girls shit all over him and his staff?

[KarenS]

32. I support folks putting their money where their mouth is!!!

I'm sure the Bush Twins voted for dear ol Dad.

:bounce:

[Anakin Skywalker]

34. Hey! This is a PRIVATE business!

Why are some (Freepers?) whining about this? Private businesses should be able to do whatever they want, yes?

[mark414]

38. EXACTLY

the freeper friendly private businesses do a lot more terrible stuff then turning away democrats...

i for one, salute the owner.

[Stephanie]

41. No shirt, no shoes, no ETHICS - no SERVICE

.

[lucabrasi]

43. I love it

[regnaD kciN]

201. ...unless they're "disloyal" to the ruling elite, that is!

I mean, do you remember when the waitress at Chuy's called the cops because Jenna was drinking at their bar when she was underage? In that case, she was actually reporting a clear-cut crime.

Well, within hours, not only had the Freepers launched a boycott of Chuy's, but they'd also posted the name of the waitress...

...and her address,

...and her home phone number,

...and the names and ages of her children,

...and a photo of her home (I think photos of her children, too)

...along with demands that she "pay for what she did" and "be put through hell."

I would expect the same treatment is being readied for whoever made the decision at this restaurant, too. Although I doubt they make up enough of a market there to have a sizeable impact on their business.

[Solitaire]

35. Yay!!!

I actually feel sorry for the girls, that must have been difficult for them. Afterall, it's not their fault who their father is, but....I do have to cheer!

:)

[ElectroPrincess]

49. Beyond everything else they're snobs ... I hope it's true and

they experience similar instances more often. :-)

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

77. I don't feel sorry one bit.

They know who their father is. And they campaigned for him.
Bed! Made! Lie! That's my message to them. And learn to cook, 'cause if this gets out in NYC, there's gonna be a whole lotta restaurants that will be following suit.

[misskris10]

57. awesome...

i'm so proud of my city:)

honestly, i have yet to meetany supporters of he-who-shall-not-be-named here.

[bobbyboucher]

60. Sounds like a another phony "Why we should hate liberals" tale.

There is a ton of fake shit out there to reinforce the idiot righties that they are correct to hate liberals, except that the stories are fiction and written in language that is intended to be divisive.

Is there any other verification of this story?

[raggedcompany]

65. re: Is there any other verification of this story?

Not that I've found.

[mcscajun]

103. I just crawled over the NY Post and the NY Daily News....nothing there...

...and this is the kind of thing their gossip columns and "Page Six" folks live for; they've both given much ink to other Bush twin visits.

Gawker takes reader submissions...the editor believes it's true..."and that's all she wrote."

[raggedcompany]

110. Do they post gossip stuff live?

Or only with each edition? If the latter, then the internet could easily have gotten the story before they did/printed it. In all likelihood they got the story about the same time we (DU, FR, others) did, and are calling people right now so they can say, one way or another whether they think this happened. It's too juicy for them to miss, even if it's unfounded.
I bet we see it tomorrow. I'll be on the subway, I'll check the paper for myself.

[mcscajun]

112. They usually have "the straight scoop" in the morning edition...

...following the night's events.

New York gossip columnists have paid stringers and contacts all over town. They pay good money for what they write about. :)

[cattleman22]

74. Exactly

And the chearing that the DU'ers gave this story further fuels the righties hatred.

[ElectroPrincess]

83. Good. If someone shows ire for me I hate them back :-).

Sure I know that I'm due a few eons in Purgatory for NOT turning the other cheek. However, I want my young daughter to have something to be proud of her Country for when she's of voting age.

When a winger said to me as I was standing in line to see F-911, "Are you going to see THAT horrible movie!" I replied "Yes, have you seen it?" She replied, "I would NOT, it's horrible." <snicker> Then she started ragging on Michael Moore's person ... there were about 25 people in the immediate area and I cut her off by saying, "Look! I don't want to have this conversation with you here. Let's leave it at that?"

I said it loud and directly to her person, and ya know what? She shut up. Nothing is fully predictable but I've discovered - unless they're in groups, right wingers are paper tigers. They'll back down if you're one on one with them - often because they only have their "talking points" and little depth of knowledge.

[cattleman22]

90. Do you really want a country in which all businesses are

divided up? Where we see signs saying, liberals only allowed in this store or signs saying coservatives only allowed in this restaurant?

That sounds pretty bleak. It just blows my mind that liberals, who claim to be tolerant, are leading this charge.

[lucabrasi]

92. Nobody is saying that

But when your dad is guilty of war crimes that's a whole different story.

[cattleman22]

102. Check out post #96. They are in fact saying that

why should the sons and daughters be guilty of the fathers crimes?

[lucabrasi]

105. Didn't say they were guilty

but if I owned the place and a known criminal's family showed up I wouldn't want them there either, especially if they publicly supported him (and therefore his actions).

[Cha]

148. They campaigned for the asshole...

and have committed some petty crimes of their own..enough to warrant not serving their asses in a New York restaurant..if this is even true..or urban legend. I hope it is.

[natrat]

96. actually yes

i would prefer to only frequent progressive bussines-but i live in the bay area which is mostly liberal. In a more mixed area that could be a problem. Lines are drawn

[fujiyama]

84. The right is already fired up enough

You do remember, they've already called us traitors? I don't see how they can hate us any more than they do.

I say fuck them. I'm tired of playing nice.

[lucabrasi]

88. Yes!

I don't "reach across the aisle" with this crime family or their supporters.

[Carolina]

121. who cares,

the righties (wrongies) hate us anyway. So why give a rat's ass what they think. All they know is HATE, so let's dish it out right back at 'em. Besides, they're Jesus freaks who believe in the turning the other cheek. NOT!

[cattleman22]

125. Care if you want votes n/t

[Carolina]

130. yeah, well tolerance has sure gotten us enough

votes to win ... NOT! Hell, if you're gonna lose, lose fighting back, fire with fire and maybe some brimstone too.

[RetroLounge]

135. Hows that worked out so far

???

RL

[AuntPatsy]

137. We got plenty of votes, so many in fact that we tipped the scale

and clearly if all was not so blantantly stolen right before our very eyes, this country would not be going even closer to hell in a hand basket.

You have to fight fire with fire and I know personaly how these evil minds work, they devour the young of all Dems and have for years and the media has their play time as well in attacking what they feel are liberals even if in the making...

No surrender, no white flag, they declared war during Clinton's years in that no one is safe from thier evil rhetoric....

I have daughters that age, I promise you, they are not stupid in that they don't have a clue as to what is honestly transpiring out of dear daddy's policies, and it is obvious, they could care less as long as they get to play and enjoy the fruits from dear daddy's labors.....

Save your pity for those that are starving, losing jobs, dying and having to sit back and watch thier enviroment destroyed and thier life's blood sucked dry, they are the ones trully in need of your pity and caring...

Not some spoiled little twits, and believe you me, that is exactly what they are, I know, I have two of my own..

[Bake]

169. Cattleman, you haven't been here long enough.

What part of it don't you get? They hate us already! You think they're gonna hate us MORE??? Coulter and Co. already want us DEAD. How much worse can they possibly hate us?

Bake

[ellie]

206. Yes, you're right,

before this incident, the right wing wackos loved liberals! Thanks for clearing that up!

//sarcasm off.

[mondo joe]

186. But I thought Repigs like private ownership and discrimination

What's not to like in this?

[mtnsnake]

64. That's what I call good ol northern hospitality.Give the maitre'd a medal!

Best news I've heard all day. I hope those two snobs took it right to heart. HAHAHAHA!!

[pacalo]

67. I love it!

[ObaMania]

69. Anyone send that to Olbermann?

Seems like it is good for an Oddball segment if it is true!

[Mad_Dem_X]

73. NYC rules!

New Yorkers are so f'ing cool. :yourock:

[Contrary1]

75. The little darlings

are old enough to deal with life's little disappointments.
The rest of us do it. When we make choices, it sometimes
means there will be consequences.

Geez...where have these two been? No pity.

[HeeBGBz]

81. I wouldn't have waited on the lil heifers

Wouldn't be worth the stress.

[BREMPRO]

78. awesome if true!

they deserve to be snubbed, they were used like family porn eye candy to "sell" Bush.

[HEAVYHEART]

79. YES!!! Yeay New York!!!

[htuttle]

85. No soup for you! Four years!

[CatBoreal]

89. If it's true...

...yet another reason to love New York.

I may just have to visit.

Cam :headbang:

[indigo11153]

95. Good!

Ya know I said something about jenna one time and some folks jumped all over me. Glad Duers have seen the light. No more nice guys. Ms. Bevis and her sister butthead can go to hell.

[Isere]

100. "No shirt, no shoes, no service!"

A restaurant always reserves the right to refuse service to whomever they please.

Frankly, I consider this a sign of great courage on the part of the restaurant owner.
There is so little one can do in the face of the Bush maelstrom. We couldn't stop him from attacking and occupying Iraq; we haven't been able to stop him from locking up people and denying them legal representation; we haven't been able to stop his deficit spending or his attack on women's reproductive rights, or the environment. And so on and on and on....

So when an individual can resist in ways that are meaningful and personal, I say Hooray!

[slutticus]

101. Here's Citysearch's site on Freemans...

http://newyork.citysearch.com/profile/41451747

Seems like a nice place.

[robbedvoter]

211. My neighborhood! Lower eastside rules! Calling for reservations now!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

104. They have somewhat of a reputation here in Texas

Maybe they were just little hellions when daddy was Texas' Gov.

No, that won't hold water Jenna pulled her stunt at Chuy's in Austin, TX when daddy was President.

Whatever the case is, I heard many people who had to deal with them while they were here (Texas) say they threw daddy's name around and expected special treatment. *IF* that is true then what happened was a cases of paying the piper.

[raggedcompany]

108. They're gonna get a lot of hate mail

I've already sent some love.

www.freemansrestaurant.com

[CatBoreal]

278. Here's my email....

Dear Freemans,

Heard your Maitre d' bounced the Bush twins out on their keesters the other night.

Good for you. Hope they bounced.

Next time I'm in New York, I'm eating at your place!

Camille A. Tovee
Kapuskasing, Ontario.

[neebob]

115. Part of me is okay with this

A big part. The other part is just sad.

[ElectroPrincess]

117. Keep the sad part. My buddies and I are having a

f**in' Mardi Gras thinking about those poor little ole' spoiled rich girls receiving a healthy dose of reality. Don't feel sorry for them because the vast majority of the lemming populace will continue to kiss their butts for a little special favor or two from "Papa."

[Berserker]

119. Oh wait

maybe the maitre 'd was supposed to kiss their ass because of who they are? I think not. Why are they not in the Military?

[Kber]

214. Every one knows that the maitre d' is the most powerful person

in the NYC.

[NightOwwl]

123. As far as I am concerned...

if they are so fucking hungry, let them dig in dumpsters for leftover scraps. Maybe it will teach them some empathy for those less fortunate.

[waldnorm]

126. Message from the 48% and the Disenfranchised . . .

Well . . . it's payback time!

[RetroLounge]

136. Good. Fuck the little skanks up a bit, I say.

Go have dinner in fucking red states, you little skanks.

RL

[grasswire]

140. review of Freemans

Editorial Rating: Recommended

The uber-hip nosh on affordable old-country Americana at this discreet alleyway eatery.

The Scene
Down a dark, shadowy alley just off Bowery, the handsome, scruffy-faced men and understatedly glamorous women of the Lower East Side gather to drink wine, crowding around antique wood tables. Worn plank floors and painted cement walls fit with moose, elk and other assorted taxidermy, giving the place a quirky edge, as do the tattoed, waifish servers who are also professional and expedient.

The Food
The affordable menu's inspiration stems from retro party appetizers and Midwest hunting lodges. Take the three best starters: nicely gamey wild boar pâté served with a few smashed raspberries and cornichon; baked artichoke dip thick with chokes; and Devils on Horseback--savory blue cheese-stuffed prunes wrapped with bacon. Whole roast trout, stuffed with thyme sprigs and served with lemon, is simple and perfectly executed; macaroni and cheese has lots of addictive crunchy Parmesan bits. Finish with the warm chocolate brownie a la mode.

[ObaMania]

164. Looks like a nice place.

If I were dining there, I don't think I'd like to be disrupted by the disorderly Bu$h ho's writhing around on the floor in their trademark drunken stupor!

[JI7]

147. HAHAHHAHAH I hope this is a true story

assuming this is true, i'm glad they did this.

they campaigned for the asshole who got support in red states by attacking those of us who live in liberal areas like the east and west coasts. i don't give a shit if he is their dad. why don't they go to some fucking restaurant in the red areas ?

[Starlight]

157. Spanos Coffee Station

I think that's the only restaurant in Crawford. They can probably get in there. :P

[DustMolecule]

163. Because they'd have to pay w/one of them-thar credit card thingy's....

*PAY?* "What's pay?", Jenna said to Barbara

[Sleepless In NY]

170. "lovely young ladies" what a joke! Ask around NY

The bush twins frequent many "establishments" while in NY, and people here know them to be rude, arrogant and mostly, drunk. The last time barbara dirty danced at a club, NY Daily News printed the photo and it turned out barbara's dance partner had 4 outstanding warrants. Nothing but a bunch of spoiled, nasty brats the two of them and their "friends" The owner did everyone a favor by not having them in.

New York made the biggest mistake not running them all out of town during the RNC Convention. Possible threat of a terrorist attack loaming? Goodie! Lets have a convention right there and possibly endanger more lives. Does any of this make sense to anyone? What they have put this city thru in terms of inconvenience and expense is unbelievable.

Lets not forget the constant whoring of 9/11, & the "purple heart" band aids. No one could wait for them to get out of this city.

This has been one sad place since the election. No one can believe this country elected a guy on whose watch 3,000 people & two towers were lost, because he was too busy vacationing, along with all his other failures.

We owe the bush family...jack. And as far as caring what "people think"? The democrats biggest problem is that they appear spineless & just roll over for anything. Morality now rules the day, by people who have more divorces, more teen pregnancies and more STD's. When is this charade going to stop & we start exploding the republican myths? "Walking the walk on family values" http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/10/31/walking_the_walk_on_family_values/


Republican reds hate us? Good dont take my money...get off "welfare" take "responsibility" practice what you preach, you hypocrites. The bush twins aren't "moral" enough for any state. We have had our fill of them & their father.

[mastershake]

171. They don't agree with their Dad...

I don't know if this is true, but i've read several times while they support their father because.. well he is there father.. they don't agree with him politically.

[mondo joe]

173. If they don't agree with his politics they shouldn't campaign for him

Simple.

[mastershake]

176. No.. not so simple.

It makes the assumption that they care enough to even know many details of what is going on. If they don't.. why not campaign for him? I don't agree with everyone on certain issues but it doesn't mean I dislike them or wouldn't support them if they were doing something... it's easy for us to say WELL THIS IS THE PRESIDENT ITS A BIG DEAL.. but its there perspective and to them its just their dad..

[mondo joe]

178. Yes, it is PRECISELY that simple.

There's a difference between being supportive and actually CAMPAIGNING for someone.

If they campaign for him they are supporting his policies.

If to them it's just their dad and they're too stupid to grasp anything more than that they are too stupid to be let in the restaurant.

[mastershake]

183. You're being a bit ridiculous...

Do you not know any republicans you like? I don't know many, but I know some... and they are pretty decent people. I don't care for political parties... I don't care for members of congress whether they are republican or democrat.. none are to be trusted. They are both rich people with the same agenda of money controlled by corporations that don't care about the true good of the people.. they just play to different groups. The Bush twins may in fact know some things we don't which lead them to not really care who the president is.. so why not support there dad? It is foolish to think the president is the one in control of this country anyway. Bush has taken advantage of his status and 9/11 for his own personal gain, but corporations pull his strings..

The point is you and I don't know everything in this situation... for someone to be rude to Bushs daughters and publicaly humilate them based on family association.. that is just being prejudice...

[mondo joe]

185. I don't need to know EVERYTHING about a situation

Hey I don't know everything about ANY situation and neither do you. Are you ready to surrender any critical assessment?

You don't know everything about the restarant situation either - maybe the Maitre'd lost his spouse on 9/11 and has strong feelings about it. Maybe he was one of the waiters stiffed by the Bush twins previously.

Funny, you need to know EVERYTHING about the twins before you can assess fault. but you don't need to know ANYTHING about the restaurant situation to blame someone.

The fact is these young adults CHOSE to CAMPAIGN for this president. Not just be supportive family but actually campaign.

And I want to tell you that if my father represented the same ideals as their father he woiuldn't get OR deserve my support.

So they may have been denied seating based on THEIR OWN ETHICS rather than biology. Remember - you don't know everything in this situation.

[mastershake]

187. Once again...

As I said already. It is prejudice. For a group of people (democrats) who claim tolerance to do something like this.. the more I think of it the more childish and pathetic I see it... a part of me thinks its funny... but it would be more funny for a place to do it to Bush, Ashcroft, Cheney, and the like... to do it to a couple of young girls cuz of their dad? weak...

[mondo joe]

188. Who ever claimed tolerance of evil?

1. I have never claimed tolerance of anything - nor have a lot of others.

2. Why do you KEEP ASSUMING it was becauise of their dad and not because of them? Do you have no appreciation of personal rtesponsibility?

3. Why the double standard - no one can judge them but you can judge the maitre'd?

[mastershake]

189. So you disagreeing with them makes them evil?

So you don't have any tolerance? You can relate to the republicans who don't tolerate gays, religions other then christianity, etc...

Assuming it was because there dad is reasonable... the maitre'd said full for "4 more years." It doesn't take a genius to see what is meant by that.

How is it a double standard? The maitre'd and everyone supposidly cheering afterwards? So i'm judging everyone for that? I'm making a comment based on stated actions and what is known. Sure, you can judge them... form whatever opinion you want about them... just as many KKK members have their opinions and hate black people... but just as they may hate them... if they have a restraunt and a black couple come in they can not lawfully refuse to seat them because of that...

[mondo joe]

190. No, their support of an evil agenda makes them evil.

You have a whole set of funny double standards.

Somehow we should understand their support of an agenda that includes an illegal war that has killed thousands, depriving US citizens of their civil rights and crippling healthcare.... but denying them a table is a terrible crime.

You have some SERIOUSLY screwed up priorities.

And again, I repeat this because you don't seem able to get it, THEY ARE BEING JUDGED on THEIR CAMPAIGNING in SUPPORT of this agenda. Not JUST a biological relationship. They cast THEMSELVES into the politics and now they are living with it.

So how is it a double standard? This is how: You say no one should judge the Bush twins because we don't know EVERYTHING about their situation. But you are HAPPY to judge the waitstaff and diners without knowing EVERYTHING about THEIR situation.

That is the double standard. For some reason YOU can judge "based on stated actions" but no one else should - at least not the "stated actions" of the twins.

But given that you have a handful of posts and most of them are defending Bush twins, I'm not surprised.

[mastershake]

191. Now you want to put words in my mouth.

I said it was childish and prejudice, I never said it was a terrible crime. I would think it is something most democrats would not want to be associated with. Many people hated Clinton, do you remember the supposed "Monica Bombs" ? Suppose a restraunt decided Chelsea wouldn't be eating there because of that.. or because they believed Clinton was immoral for his affair? And hey.. she supports her father so she must be just as immoral and evil.

Where do I have a double standard? You keep claiming it but you haven't pointed anything out yet. Unless you want to keep putting words in my mouth.

First you said they may not be being judged because of support for their father, then you say they are... uh huh. Ok.

Once again, people judging them on support for their father is ridiculous. I know many people who are decent, pro-choice, pro-gay rights, etc.. but they voted for Bush... some even did a lot of local work to support his reelection. I disagree with them.. but disagreeing with them and telling them they aren't welcome in a restraunt because of it is just ridiculous.

Most of my post are defending Bush twins? This is a thread about the Bush twins... what do you expect? I'll continue to respond to you and until I decide otherwise.. None of my other post have anything to do with the Bush twins.

[mondo joe]

205. How can you miss the double standard????

I've spelled it out several times, and here's one more:

You assert that we shouldn't judge the Bush twins because we don't know EVERYTHING about their situation.

But you are very willing to judge the maitre'd without knowing EVERYTHING about his situation.

Why the double standard?

Why can one person be judged based on stated actions but not another? Why one standard for the Bush twins but another for the maitre'd?

That, my bush-loving poster, is a double standard.

And you yourself point out that they are lying hypocrites who support an evil agenda they don't even agree with. THat makes them even WORSE than the bigots who at least BELIEVED in the agenda they supported. Anyone who CAMPAIGNED for Bush's agenda is as evil as Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld or their corporate masters. But campaigning for this agenda and knowing it's wrong is even worse.

[mastershake]

212. You got some issues huh?

Seriously. Because I disagree with you on this issue, one I think most decent people would say hey this is pretty wack, you want to call me a bush-loving poster? You obviously have some serious problems with yourself if you need to resort to that. My post here have not been pro-bush... not even this one.

There is no double standard. Then you say "here is one more" and say the exact same thing you've been claiming already as if it's something new. Wow.

The facts as we know it is the restraunt denied access to the Bush twins based on their father (something we can get because of the 4 more years comment). And the people supposidly cheered. You want to take my comment about knowing everthing about the Bush twins and say "well you gotta know everything about the maitre'd before juding blah blah blah" I am not passing judgement on there character however. I am saying the fact is what was done was disrespectful, distasteful, and childish.. and certainly in the eyes of most people would not make the democratic party look good. For a good example go to fark.com where the story is posted. The usual republicans there are bashing it of course, but most of the democrats are speaking up saying they think it is outrageous also.

Anyone who campaigned for Bush is evil? Sorry... I don't buy into that. I know to many decent republicans. I am not going to be so quick to give a blanket label like that. I realize for you and many others it's easy to hate... but in a country where kids are fed corporate culture from day 1 and we have a government that has always lied to us.. I don't trust it and never have... it is easy to see where people are confused or why some support something others just can't understand why the hell they would. That doesn't make them evil, just misinformed. As I'm sure I am on certain things and you too... enlightenment won't come from hate though...

[mondo joe]

213. I have issues with people who support illegal wars and bigotry

Why do you deny your double standard?

Why do you feel you can judge the restaurant staff, but no one can judge the Bush twins?

Why is it that the Bush twins are about the ONLY THING you care to post about? With every outrage of the last few years or even the last few weeks the only thing that really gets you workedup are these twin shits?

The FACT as we know it is the Bush twins were denied seating. YOU assume it's because of their father - not because of their OWN choices, including being FAMOUSLY bad customers.

Why do you assume so much?

And why do you think the twins are absolved of any PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their OWN choices?

Lastly, why do you think the actions of one maitre'd reflects on the WHOLE democratic party but the twins actions don't even reflect on THEMSELVES???

[mastershake]

216. You're making some wack assumptions...

First of all look at what i've posted on.. this the only thread in regards to the Bush twins but you want to make it sound like I am only posting about them?

I haven't said people can or can't judge anyone. I said that people are passing judgement with out knowing all the details. I realize there is no way for us to know all of them, but based on the facts we do have in this situation, if the restraunt really did this, it was childish.

The actions of the maitre'd don't reflect the whole democratic party, obviously. But such actions would be used by republicans and the media to spread negative thought of the democratic party, and it would be done so easily. If this was a reversed situation involving Kerrys daughters... democrats would be screaming about how ignorant republicans are. It goes both ways...

My assumption it is because of their father is a reasonble one, one your own post even show you believe. She said they were full for "4 more years" a direct reference to bushs re-election.

[mondo joe]

218. You either believe in personal responsibility or you don't.

As of this post, you have only 23 posts and most of those are in defense of the Shit twins.

What? Nothing else troubled yo in the last year until now?

"I haven't said people can or can't judge anyone. I said that people are passing judgement with out knowing all the details."

And again, I know MORE detail about the Bush twins than you do about the maitre'd. But for some reason, without knowing ALL the details YOU are happy to pass judgement on him.

Tell me, what was his relationship to 911? To the war in Iraq? Did he know about the twins' record of being abusive customers? Tell me those details, please.

And once again you use double standards: YOUR assumptions are reasonable, others are not. And who is the judge of what's a reasonable assumption? Why...it's you! Surprise!

Do you believe in personal responsibility or not? And if you do, why do you absolve the Shit twins of ANY?

[mastershake]

221. Now why don't you try focusing on what i've actually said..

As you yourself seem to be a person who is passing judgement. You called me Bush-loving for saying that if this really did happen its ridiculous. I voted against Bush, I spoke out against Bush, i've done a lot to try and stop him from getting re-elected... but I recognize wack things when they happen.. and that's what this would be. But since I speak on it that means i'm bush-loving?

23 times and most are in support of the Bush twins?

1. 6, now 7 after I post will be in response to the Bush twins. I don't know if you understand math well, but that does not make up the majority of 23 (24 after this post).

2. I am replying directly to you on this topic. This is the only thread in which I am posting saying anything in regards to the Bush twins.

3. I am not supporting them. I am saying that people passing judgement on them because of who there father is, is wrong. Plain and simple.

Also I just started posting on this site last night... you want to assume "nothing bothered me until now" because of that?

[mondo joe]

222. I focused on what you said. Let's look at it.

You say people shouldn't pass judgment without knowing all the details.

But you pass judgment on the maitre'd without knowing all the details.

Now tell me please why you do not hold the Bush twins accountable for their own actions? Do you not believe in personal responsibility, or do you just think it doesn't apply to them?

[mastershake]

223. No. You didn't...

You put words in my mouth and i've called you on your own ways of prematurely passing judgement and you ignore it.

Where have I passed judgement on the maitre'd? I even said I think this is some what funny but it should have been against someone who is actually harmful to this country... not a couple of kids, which are easy targets.

I said it is childish. Which it is.. that isn't passing judgement.. I'm not trying to deny the restaunt or its customers/employees of anything... I am commenting on this situation. I haven't said they are terrible people for not letting the bush twins in.

Hold the Bush twins accountable for their own actions in regards to what? Rumors they are bad tippers? That they campaigned for their dad? You think that makes them evil... I know to many people who have stood up for things I disagree with that were good people for me to give a label as evil to someone for not agreeing with me. Republicans like to do that also you see... they like to give blanket labels to those who disagree with them... it doesn't work that way in the real world.

[mondo joe]

225. You judge, them say you don't.

"Where have I passed judgement on the maitre'd? I even said I think this is some what funny but it should have been against someone who is actually harmful to this country... not a couple of kids, which are easy targets."

You passed judgment when you said the maitre'd was childish, or any of your other judgments.

"I said it is childish. Which it is.. that isn't passing judgment.. I'm not trying to deny the restaurant or its customers/employees of anything... I am commenting on this situation."

Then you passed judgment - that's what passing judgment IS. You don't have to DENY someone something to judge them.

"Hold the Bush twins accountable for their own actions in regards to what? Rumors they are bad tippers? That they campaigned for their dad?"

Yes and yes. They actively campaigned for an agenda that is by every honest definition evil: illegal wars, denial of civil rights and more.

Ron Reagan never did that - but he personally supported his father. No problem there.

But the Shit twins chose to take an active role in supporting this agenda.

And there's more to rumors about being abusive customers - don't forget the trouble they cause that bar a few years ago.

What maitre'd wants a couple of falling down drunk brats reputed to waste a whole night for the waiter?

Again, why do you refuse to hold the Shit twins accountable for their own choices?

Do you think they're too young? Too dumb? What?

[Bake]

200. Sorry, but this just really pisses me off!

First, look at the photo above in the thread with Jenna sticking her tongue out at the press ... if that's not the epitome of the Puke mentality, I don't know what it ...

Second, the sluts campaigned for Daddy Dearest. But he's their Daddy, of course they'd campaign for him? NOT. They're old enough to take a passing look at issues (as if they were really interested in such things ...).

It's NOT based on "family association." It's based on their whole "up yours" attitude toward the rest of America. Stiffing the NY waitstaff -- WORKING STIFFS like everybody else, by the way, the people who SHOULD be Dems' constituency.

Privileged little shits. I say, fuck 'em. Tolerance no more. Fuck 'em all. We tried being nice, and it didn't "work out too well for us."

Bake

[oldcoot]

226. If they do not care about what is going on, screw them

I strongly believe that all citizens have a duty to be well-informed and to care about their government's activities. While I understand that it is very difficult to understand every aspect of U.S. policy, one should have a general idea of what current U.S. policy is. I have no patience or respect for people who refuse to pay attention to current events and vote for a candidate because they think that he seems like a nice guy on television.

Since both of these young women apparently graduated from high school and currently are attending college, they should have a basic knowledge of civics. They should know what the president does and why their father's job is important.

[mastershake]

228. I agree with you...

They should know. It doesn't mean they do. They may very well know, and just not care.

I think you are right, all citizens should be well-informed and care. But in todays society it is a lot easier to not care. In fact I wish I didn't care... this is something I think about every day... what is wrong, what I can do to change it. But damn... i'd rather not care. I'm 24 and in college and have a lot better things to do then think about politics... but I got sucked in and here I am... I think a lot of people have been sucked in since Bush became president because of all the messed up shit he has done.

For some people it really doesn't matter because regardless of who is in control they will do what they want...

[JI7]

293. being rejected at a restaurant is nothing compared to those harmed by

the fucking asshole who they endorsed and actively campaigned for.

fuck them, they don't get a free ride in life based on ignorance. tell them to go to some fucking right wing restaurant who voted for the fucking asshole because of "morals and values".

[TankLV]

269. Oooo - another newbie coming here to scold another.

What a surprise!

There's that damn "we" you're throwing around again!

Maybe you and the other couple newbie posters here can just go away and form your own group? There is another site out there that you might be more comfortable with, ya know!

[mondo joe]

174. Praying this is true. A good F U from NYC to the Bush Family.

Especially after the way the Bush clan has demeaned and disrespected the liberal northeast states.

For these stupid priviliged shits there's no problem showing disdain for NY but then wanting to enjoy the nightlife.

Fuckers.

[DireStrike]

177. YYYYYYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NYC!

To quote Winston Zeddmore,

I LOVE THIS TOWN!

-A proud New Yorker

[Insider]

180. i know where they can 3 meals a day

for real. join the army. see the world. have dinner in baghdad.

[argyl]

182. Y'all NYCers are my heroes.

[Dogmudgeon]

184. Heavy Freeping going on at T.J. Lang's blog

There must have been an all-point(ed head)s bulletin issued at FR, because about half the comments are not just from conservatives, but from Über-Freepers.

Feel the Love at http://www.thomasjlang.com/archives/000348.html

--bkl

[Spock_is_Skeptical]

192. That is GREAT, HAHAA!! Fantastic.

'specially if it's true.

[hiphopnation]

207. I haven't heard this reported anywhere else.

I say it's bullshit and a thread to hand over to Rush and Hannity as evidence of those intolerant lefties. I'm suspect.

[RetroLounge]

237. You just don't get it.

They don't NEED this thread, they make shit up anyhow.

We no longer give a fuck about them.. Fuck them.

RL

[hiphopnation]

238. between the two of us friend

i'm not sure i'm the one who doesn't get it.

has this story yet been corroborated? Or is this just a cathartic thread to air out our grievances? If the latter, pretty lame.

BTW, Happy Festivus.

[Cha]

240. Sorry, I'm with RetroLounge

on this one..he "gets it"!

[hiphopnation]

250. telling that you feel the need to apologize for that.

again, have you heard this story reported anywhere else besides what's fast becoming the DU echo chamber? I haven't. Hmmmm

On Edit: It is being reported at one other site. Anyone care to venture a guess where? Free Republic

[Cha]

277. Whatever..

And I stand by what I said .."RetroLounge gets it"..and you don't!

[hiphopnation]

280. happy festivus

:eyes:

on edit: you outline my point so nicely. When asked about facts you respond with "whatever". I couldn't have summed up the utter idiocy in this thread any better than you did with your response. I wager most of the people trashing the Bush twins in this thread feel the same way. "It really doesn't matter if the story is true or not. Any reason to all get together and spew our utter misery and hatred, we'll take it" is basically what you've said.

Good luck with your hatred. I hope it wins elections.

[mondo joe]

283. Good lord, you're confused.

***"It really doesn't matter if the story is true or not. Any reason to all get together and spew our utter misery and hatred, we'll take it"***

No one is trashing the Bush twins BECAUSE of this event so it doesn't really MATTER of it's true or not.

And for the record, I hope more businesses start turning away members of the Bush Reich.

[hiphopnation]

295. IOW

No one is trashing the Bush twins BECAUSE of this event so it doesn't really MATTER of it's true or not. In other words..."Any reason to all get together and spew our utter misery and hatred, we'll take it."

Thanks for clearing that up.

Again, if anger, vitriol, divisevness, attack, slander, etc. etc. etc. work in terms of winning elections we should really clean up in '06 and '08 with this kind of force on the ground. Of course, that's assuming you're doing everything you can in your corner of the world to win elections for Dems. I guess I shouldn't be so bold.

P.S. I think this would make a much better thread topic: For the record, I hope businesses start turning away members of the Bush Reich Probably more than a few business owners hanging out at DU this very minute! Go find them and petition them instead of wasting time trashing people, an act which will likely have little or no outcome on an election. Good luck! :thumbsup:

[mondo joe]

307. Actually, "anger, vitriol, divisevness, attack, slander" has done well

Actually, "anger, vitriol, divisevness, attack, slander" has done well in elections - in case you didn't know Bush just got elected that way.

DIDN'T NOTICE, DID YOU?

Incidentally, where in this thread has SLANDER been used?

[hiphopnation]

311. *sigh*

is that all you've learned from this past election?

sheesh. and I'm the one who "doesn't get it". Well continue attacking with attack and not clear-headed strategy and let's see where that gets us.

again, good luck.

[mondo joe]

312. Are you still here? I thought you were leaving.

The restaurant maitre'd isn't part of a political strategy.

The maitre'd is an individual acting on his conscience.

[hiphopnation]

315. you're right

i should leave. sometimes I get sucked in to the "he/she-who-must-post-last" charade. what can i say, sometimes even I'm incorrigible. alas, i'm dizzy with all your spin. you win! go collect your shiny little prize from the gatekeeper of the internet. I've no doubt I won't run into you campaigning, or marching, or canvasing for voter registrations, or in a calling center so I won't even say "smell ya later". I also have no doubt you'll have a "one-up" to this, my last post so I'll leave you with this: Take all your anger and go do something positive...please.

Peace.

[mondo joe]

316. If you won't leave how can I miss you?

What a psychic you must be!

"Take all your anger and go do something positive...please."

Please, please, please - do tell all you know about the positive I haven't done.

Please tell everyone how I spend the vst amount of my time and my money as well.

Please.

Psychic.

I'm waiting.

[Cha]

285. Quit putting words in my mouth...

like the other poster so eloquently says..you're "confused"..and you don't get it.

[hiphopnation]

297. Eloquent?

Yeah, he's a regular Chaucer, that one. :eyes:

All you've got is "You don't get it." Well if I don't get trashing people I don't know in the General Discussion Forum of a political chat board after we (Dems, assuming you are one) just had our asses handed to is in a general election by which was either (a) stolen or (b) legitimately won (even worse), then yes, I don't get it. Forgive me if I see no point in it whatsoever especially with regard to winning elections.

Go on with yo bad self...

[mondo joe]

308. Funny, you have no problem trashing fellow posters

I guess your generosity of spirit is limited to the Bush twins.

By the way, how do you feel about trashing Karen Hughes? Karl Rove? Tom Delay? GW Bush?

Can we criticize them even if we don't know them?

[hiphopnation]

309. conflating criticism with with trashing I see

to boot you've confused my criticizing people's trashing the bush twins as unproductive and pointless with me defending the bush twins and the rest on your list. I could have written your response for you. Not at all surprising.

Pray tell, whom have I "trashed" here? I've criticized, yes. Trashing people doesn't help win elections and that's my only aim here.

I don't like to "trash" anyone for any reason. I hope you know why, by now. Again, good luck.

[mondo joe]

314. Pray tell who here has "trashed" the twins - we just CRITICIZED

I suggest you get treatment foryour batterwed wife syndrome.

[Retrograde]

292. Chelsea's day-to-day doings weren't reported either

Chelsea Clinton spent 4 years ~ 1 mile from where I live, in a college town (well, sort of). While several recent college grads who worked for me at the time claimed to have seen her at some of the popular student hangouts near campus, she apparently didn't do anything to attract attention to herself, at least no more than any other college kid. I suppose if you treat the locals with respect and discretion you get treated with respect and discretion.

BTW, wasn't one of the Bush twins supposed to have been teaching in Harlem this fall?

linda

[peekaloo]

210. Welcome to DU and thanks for the chuckle!

:hi:

[raggedcompany]

215. thanks

for the welcome!

[FlaGranny]

224. I have one thing to say

about the entire thread: Bush: "I'm a uniter; not a divider." He's done such a good job of "uniting" hasn't he?

[Coventina]

229. As Nelson Muntz would say.....

HA HA!

:D

[UTUSN]

235. Kick for the Highlighting

*******QUOTE*******

http://www.gawker.com/news/culture/stalker/gawker-stalker-bungalow-8-nycs-best-crack-den-026053.php

Freemans tuesday night the 16th of nov. the bush twins along with 2 massive secret service men tried to have dinner they were told by the maitre 'd that they were full and would be for the next 4 years upon hearing the entire restaurant cheered and did a round of shots it was amazing!!! (Ed: We're hearing that this is actually true.)

********UNQUOTE*******

[NCN007]

243. thats sad

As important as politics are to our society, ones political affiliation should not effect treating others with civility, especially in social settings. Just because some of them do it means we are justified?

[robbedvoter]

262. "we" again? There's no "we" between you and me.

[B Calm]

244. The girls should be eating in an Iraq mess hall and not

at some fancy place in NY...

[rosyhue]

245. The Bush Girls Have No Fashion Sense

....and should be shipped to Iraq instead of polluting
The Greatest City In The World with their big-mouthed,
crossed-eyed presence. Go New YAWK!!

[aka-chmeee]

266. Suggested Bush Girls Destination

I've seen this suggested in several posts here, but do their life experiences and qualifications support any other occupational specialty other than "camp follower"?

[Arkana]

246. Awesome!

Civil disobedience is the best kind. Kudos to that restaurant for standing up to the Spawn of the Spawn of Satan.

[mondo joe]

263. Would you expect a Jew in 1930s Germany to wait on Eva Braun?

A Jew in prewar Germany who kicked Hitler's fiance out of a restaraunt would be remembered as something of a hero.

No difference here.

[haunce]

270. Twins

I would like to buy that restaurant owner a beer:toast: :smoke:

[benburch]

271. Why should anybody have to dine with pigs?

Amen.

Lets refuse ALL republicans service.

I'm betting that more waiters are democrats than republicans...

Maybe we can starve them to death?

[bo44]

274. Bush Oysters can get shucked

Go back to Houston and get ready for your Spring Break Video performances.

[Bridget Burke]

306. The twins don't spend much time in Houston.

Would you like to hang out with Grandpa Wimp & Grandma Bar? And they sure don't hang out with their parents.

They seem to have neglected those "work" plans mentioned before the election. The world awaits their next move....

[Zorra]

276. I am shunning Bu$h supporters and refusing to patronize their businesses.

It is what the German people should have done to Hitler supporters in the 1930's.

[ernstbass]

296. I agree

There is a lot to be said for refusing to give my business to republicans and their supporters. Just wish we could make it an organized effort throughout the land!!!

[readmoreoften]

317. CLARIFYING INFORMATION

Hi. I know I'm a new poster so the information I post will be subject to criticism (so be it.)

The owner of the restaurant in question in NYC is a part time grad student in one of my classes. He was talking about this issue in the student lounge this evening. He was VERY upset.

Apparently, this is NOT what happened at the restaurant. The Bush twins were turned away because there was no seating available and they did not have reservations. While the staff would've rather not have dealt with them at all, they would have given them seating if it was available. The twins did not throw their weight around and the management had no harsh verbal exchanges with the twins. Basically, it was a non-incident.

The story was started by drunk and angry clients who were discussed what they WANTED to do and what they felt SHOULD HAVE been done.

Anyway, the owner is getting phoned in death threats and other 'terroristic threats' from insane freepers and he is really afraid for himself and for his business. Granted, most people calling are not NYC locals but he is still afraid.

So, basically, this story is not true. It is also not Rovian spin. It is really just a tall tale.

I'm glad to finally be able to post. Glad to join the DU community.

[Taxloss]

321. Somewhere far, far away

Taxloss could hear the faint sound of the 2008 election being lost. But it was almost drowned out by the noise over a total fucking non-story.