What will happen when the ignorant 60% (bushbots) realize the truth...

[LynnTheDem]

that;

Saddam DID NOT have anything to do with 911...

Saddam had NO TIES to Al Qaeda or any other international terrorist organization...

Saddam DID NOT have WMD and hasn't had any since 1991...

Iraqis DID NOT and DO NOT support the bush's invasion & occupation of their country...

And that the world DID NOT and DOES NOT support bush's invasion & occupation of Iraq and that IN FACT NOT ONE NATION on the entire planet had a majority that was pro-invasion???

Will all their empty stupid little heads explode? Yuck, that's gonna be a nasty mess of gunk!

Edited for links:

Clueless People Love Bush

It seems the majority of Bush supporters, according to recent polls, still believe Saddam Hussein had ties to Al Qaeda and even to 9-11, and that the United States found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Many of you are asking how that could possibly be, since everybody knows...

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1027-34.htm

US Majority Still Believe in Iraq's WMD, al-Qaeda Ties

U.S. public perceptions about former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein's alleged ties to al-Qaeda and stocks of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) continues to lag far behind the testimony of experts, boosting chances that President George W Bush will be re-elected, according to a survey and analysis released Thursday.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0422-09.htm

Three of Four Bush Supporters Still Believe in Iraqi WMD, al Qaeda Ties

http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/iraq/2613.html

[lapfog_1]

1. What makes you think that they will?

These are the same people that believe that the earth is about 7000
years old and was created just the way we see it now.

Facts are not important to them.

[skylarmae]

12. I totally agree with you, lapfog_1!

It seems to be quite simply a, 'Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do', kind of thing at this point. That, of course, and watching your back, cause these little buggars can be REAL sneaky.

Good Morning, USA!

[billyoc]

2. Their unwavering faith in their fearless, godlike

leader renders them impervious to any such wicked thoughts. Can there be any other reason why they still believe any of that in the first place? They are truly lost souls. :shrug:

[SoCalDem]

3. Don't worry about that.. As long as there is a FOX and rightwing radio

they will only have it MORE re-inforced in their brains..

Look for textbooks coming along to make the connection too.

[charlie]

4. Saddam was a bad, bad man

Didn't you get the memo? We're there to bring FREEDOM. WMD is sooo 2003. They're better off without him, whether they know it or not, and WOW did you see that Pacer's brawl on TV????!!!

[xchrom]

5. you don't understand why they voted for bushco

they didn't vote for him because they were lied to -- they know what you know.
like slavery or segregation -- people knew it was wrong.

americans can be peculiarly mean spirited in the face of our national good guy myth -- we commit genocide on native people here to create our own wealth -- rape africa -- create phony excuses for wars in cuba, spain, nicaragua, etc.

we don't like out tax dollars spent on the poor, yet rant endlessly about our generosity.

we're obssesive about controlling what women do with their own bodies, yet prattle meaninglessly about the righteousness of the freesom of the individual.

they didn't vote for bush because he or they are good decent people -- the truth is more sinister.

[LynnTheDem]

7. They DO NOT KNOW what we know, that's the whole point!

Did you miss the polls showing 60% still think Iraq did 911, Iraq had WMD that the US already found, etc? I have links I can find for you if you missed it.

Edited to add: I agree with you 100% on what you say otherwise; those who DO know just don't give a shit. They are the rightwingnut freeper psychos who will chant "Iraqi FREEDOM!" in the morning and then "Nuke em all!" that afternoon, if bushCartel and the zealot pundits tell them to.

But what about those who are decent, and just ignorant? When they find out the truth, I don't think they're just going to say "oh well".

[xchrom]

11. lynn, they're lying.

don't you get it?
they're lying so they can set their minds at ease about the murder they know we are committing.

[LynnTheDem]

17. MAJORITY of Americans are lying?

That the majority are totally IGNORANT I agree. All lying? Nope sorry, I don't believe that.

[Dulcinea]

24. They don't care.

They don't think it affects them. Their daily lives won't change, right?

I had a college roommate whose response to anything that didn't have to do with her or her boyfriend was, "I don't care. I don't want to hear it." This country is full of people like that.

That's the mentality we're dealing with. If it has nothing to do with them, it doesn't matter, or even exist. Ignore it & it'll go away.

[ClintonTyree]

6. If they haven't awoke thus far..................

there is very little chance they ever will. These folks have eschewed rational thought for blind faith. They would rather believe than think. There is no reaching them. Their cognitive dissonance won't allow it. In the face of overwhelming evidence that blows their reasons for supporting Bush clearly out of the water, they've replaced those suppositions with BELIEF! You can't fight against belief, they'll die for their beliefs, however misguided. Think Branch Davidians without the communal house.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

8. Stop saying that, it's not true, Bush did not receive the majority of vote

Kerry won. Diebold Counted. Bush stold it again. We should still be fighting this. We should be demanding recounts, and writing to our congressmen and senators demanding they challege the electors. Stop blaming the people. The people clearly voted for Kerry.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

9. The voting inconsistancies...

Are simply part of a far larger whole. That whole is where the real fight exists, where the real work is.

[LynnTheDem]

10. Polls recently done show 60% of Americans STILL THINK IRAQ did 911!

NOTHING TO DO with the election!

60% of Americans said they think Iraq did 911 etc!

All I am saying is what happens when those 60% WAKE UP to the FACTS.

[xchrom]

14. they are lying.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

21. yep, they are lying.

[CarbonDate]

22. They're basing that belief....

...on suspicion. They think that it *must* be true. That's all. Evidence has nothing to do with it. It's basically the true "consipracy theory" mind-set. It's the same as the MIHOP mind-set; there's no real evidence that Bush had anything to do with 9/11, but a lot of people still believe it to be true.

[Speed8098]

23. ""They're basing that belief.......on suspicion."

I guess Dick Cheney & * hawking that sentiment across the country for 3 years had nothing to do with that "suspicion"

Republican mantra:
If you say it enough, they will believe it to be true.

[CarbonDate]

26. No....

...I knew people who said that Saddam was behind it the day it happened. Some people are just not rational.

[xchrom]

29. keep spreading the lies, man

most rational people didn't believe in a war w/ iraq because they couldn't find the imagined weapons no matter how hard they looked.
and there was evidence a plenty to the contrary -- of course with bblinders on -- you only see so much.

[Swamp Rat]

13. Well, I'm not sure about your percentage figure, but the Bushbots in

general are hopeless. Their brains have been irreparably damaged. I recommend frontal lobotomies for the lot of 'em.

[LynnTheDem]

15. I'll go find the link to the poll.

Looks like a lot of people on this board never saw it.

Clueless People Love Bush

It seems the majority of Bush supporters, according to recent polls, still believe Saddam Hussein had ties to Al Qaeda and even to 9-11, and that the United States found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Many of you are asking how that could possibly be, since everybody knows...

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1027-34.htm

US Majority Still Believe in Iraq's WMD, al-Qaeda Ties

U.S. public perceptions about former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein's alleged ties to al-Qaeda and stocks of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) continues to lag far behind the testimony of experts, boosting chances that President George W Bush will be re-elected, according to a survey and analysis released Thursday.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0422-09.htm

Three of Four Bush Supporters Still Believe in Iraqi WMD, al Qaeda Ties

http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/iraq/2613.html

[Swamp Rat]

18. OK. That might clear up some questions.

I was wondering from what specific demographic the 60% figure was derived. It's really not all that important, though. Your point is well-taken and I wonder the same thing. When the tide turns against Bush, I believe that he may face much worse and vitriolic criticism from his soon-to-be ex-supporters. :)

[ebayfool]

19. I've seen it. They know, they just flat refuse to believe.

I can't count the people I've argued the point with, they admit they've 'heard' @ 9/11, Iraq v. al queda, etc. Then they turn around & justify why they don't believe it. People just don't want to believe it, so they contort the world to fit.

[Speed8098]

20. Lynn, they don't want to know and they don't care

I had a conversation yesterday with one of the re:puke:'s I work with.

Me: "What do you think about the GOP changing the rules to let Delay remain Majority leader if he gets indicted?"

Him: "Both parties are corrupt."

Me: "So you think this is ok?"

Him: "It doesn't matter to me."

Me: "Just so I'm clear, you think it's just fine for the Majority leader of the House of Representatives of the United States of America, to be indicted for a felony and still retain his leadership.?"

Him: "Yes."

Now, this is the same guy who told me what a piece of shit Bill Clinton was for getting a blow job from Monica.
The same guy who said this administration was the administration of values. That he voted for them because of their deep faith.

Another colleague just said, "You can't argue with ignorance."
Boy is he right.

Personally, I just don't get it. How can sooo many people be sooo ignorant? :crazy:

[FlyByNight]

16. They'll never realize the truth in time because...

they'll be drafted.

[jjanpundt]

25. The same thing that happened when the truth came out

about Nixon. A massive sense of betrayal and distrust and loss.

I was discussing Nixon with my Mom (an intelligent 79 year old moderate dem) and she told me it took her a long time to realize how big a scandal Watergate was. (She and my Dad had dismissed most of my rantings about Nixon.) Mom said it was the equivalent of getting a bucket of cold water in the face to find out that our elected officials were as nasty, crooked and petty as the third world dictators we've always sneered at. She's never recovered that aboslute faith that our country was "good" since then.

I believe that when the full story of all the bushco crimes becomes public knowledge and the media's willing participation in the coverup is laid out there will be a lot of stunned, betrayed, angry people. People that have been duped and then find out they've been played can get really nasty.

[The Backlash Cometh]

27. It will be too late. We're going to experience backlashes from

the Iraqis and people from the Middle East. Bush owns the media so he will market the information in ways that will keep his people in line. Bush will get his Armageddon.

[Ronnie]

28. Some of these people...

still believe that Nixon was framed. They're not even afraid to say it out loud. I've heard them. They're related to me.

[Laelth]

30. Kennedy just barely won the election in 1960.

In a 1964 poll, something like 80% of Americans said they voted for Kennedy. If the truth ever comes out about BushCo., you'll see the same thing ... denial. People will re-write their own personal histories to reflect what they want to believe. They will join the ultimate victors, no matter who they are.

What I fear is that we'll never get the truth out. The right-wing control of the media is so pervasive, that the majority of Americans may never be allowed to see the evidence. This time, the tide may not turn.

-Laelth

[Neverarepublican]

31. Did you read

the Frat Spanking article on the front of DU today?
It explains it all.

[gordianot]

32. They will only wake up when we are in the poor house.

Then they might (not certain even then) realize the meaning of a minority 1% party.

When we are viewed by the world as the Evil Empire on par with the worst Communist, or Fascist dictatorship.