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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:39 AM
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Inaugurations do not a president make; votes make a president, & Diebold c
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 08:08 AM by Is It Fascism Yet
Folks, it is a really big mistake to let Shrub get away with this again. We really can't survive 4 more years of Bush&Company, and this time, with no re-election to worry about, we will see Shrub Unleashed! Call the media regularly, write the newspapers, demand a recount in your state, demand an investigation of this election fraud, and call your congressmen and senators and demand they challenge the electors. On inauguration day please let us gather all across America in our own towns, at public places, all at the same time, and carry signs saying "Diebold can't count, Congratulations President Kerry". Let us recognize our real president this time, en masse, all in our own towns, all across the nation, and let's fly all our flags at half mast, in mourning for the "death of American democracy". Even if they force this on us, we don't have to act like we believe it for a moment. There will soon be a draft for BOTH men and women up to age 34, the plans for this were spelled out to the pentagon on Feb 11, 2003, and they are only waiting until after The Son of a Bush is safely installed. Tell your children not to go. Some of them will feel it is their duty if called, but argue the point with them, explain the Commander In Thief is an evil war profiteer, in fact a war criminal, who would order to do immoral things, like torture prisoners. It is not their duty to serve such a master. Get them faked ID's, hide them in the attic, or get them out of the country but don't let them go into the military. At least they will still be alive, and not have the blood of innocents on their hands. If your children were thinking about ROTC for college, for god's sake, don't let them do it. Even if they delay college, at least they will be better off. Do not allow your children to respond to this draft. If you are age 34 or less, I beg you not to go off to fight Shrub's illegal, immoral oil wars. Tell your children we will know when we have a serious war that really needs fighting when we see The Drunken Bush Twins getting shipped out with the marines. Then, if The Drunken Bush Twins go, we should know its time to send our kids too. Until then, Don't give up. Don't be afraid. People have been changing the world all through history, and people, usually a small group of them, are the ONLY things that ever change the world. Think about it. Don't stop demanding a just investigation of this fraud, Do recognize our legitimate president on inauguration day, and don't stop demanding impeachment of The Son of a Bush. Don't let anyone pretend to your face that the lies are the truth, call them on it, in the supermarket, at the beauty salon, at work, call the doublethink lies for what they are, don't make like you believe it for a moment.

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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:13 AM
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1. Sure looks like fascism
http://www.omnicenter.org/warpeacecollection/facism.htm#14fascism

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The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism
Free Inquiry http://www.secularhumanism.org/fi/
Spring 2003; 5-11-03

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to (sic) media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Free Inquiry, the magazine that celebrates reason and humanity, is published quarterly by the Council for Secular Humanism. Edited by philosopher Paul Kurtz <http://www.secularhumanism.org/home/kurtz/index.htm> , Free Inquiry presents scholarly and popular articles relating to secular humanism, atheism, church-state separation, and issues affecting the rights of religious minorities. For more information, contact us at FreeInquiry@SecularHumanism.org.


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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:42 AM
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2. ah, thank you for the nice definition, i will send it on to my neocon
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 12:55 AM by Is It Fascism Yet
Thanks, I will pass your definition along to my neocon nephews, it is very concise. These nephews will be driving the tank I lie down under when our "Tienneman Moment" arrives.
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