Al Gore: Here's why you need to run

[Must_B_Free]

you said elections should be about the future, not the past.

This 2004 election is about the past, Al. The past is the future, because we left the future behind when Bush took us back into the Dark Ages.

We need to right the wrongs that were done. If we elect someone who will just move on, the damage is done. We need to go back to where got off the good road and get back on it.

We can't let them get away with it anymore. All responsible for the election 2000 debacle and all of the other outrages since that time MUST have the light of truth shone on them. We simply can't gloss it over and hope for a better future, because if we do, that corruption we swept under the rug will come back to haunt us.

The WRONG precedents have been set since election and they will tarnish the future if not corrected, mark my words. We need a purge of most if not all elected officials in America. This is becoming apparent to most. The checks and balances have failed us because the Democrats didn't do their job. We need to reign in corporate power and make the corporations serve US, not the other way around.

I demand accountability and as an American, I deserve it. If we don't do it right and kill this beast now, it will put on a new mask and come back to destroy again. We need to place the importance of the individual above the power of the corporation. We are in the midst of impending disaster because the drive for "better figures" is devoid of humanity.

Look at all the criminals from the Regan Administration that came back to be hailed as "heros". If we elect an "electable" candidate who just wants to "put all that ad stuff behind us", who is going to stop the criminals? THEY MUST PAY! It is TIME TO NAME NAMES and hand out REAL penalties, not white collar ones.

We can't jump back to the right road without going back and correcting our errors. The laundry is not going to get cleaned by hiding it under the rug.

Doesn't America mean enough to treat her right?

And Al, your other reason for not running was that you didn't want to dredge up all that mud slinging again. At this point, I don't think that is a problem for you anymore. Bush has NO credibility left and people are seeing through even the cable news propaganda. If they accuse you of claiming you invented the internet, you say "At least I didn't get thousands of people killed for a lie. Which is more important?".

Al, you have a responsibility to serve this country, in what could arguably be our greatest time of need. Noone else is in so good a position as you. The voters are realizing that they made a mistake choosing Bush and they now must realize that you were the right choice.

History is calling you, Al. It's time to repay a nation that has given you a wonderful life. Take the office and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

[Cheswick2.0]

1. Like your post

= )

[ObaMania]

2. I like it too!

Too bad though, that HE'll never see it.

:(

[KG]

22. no personality cult thing going on here, nope nothing like that!

:)

[jeter]

3. Here we go again

Let it be guys. He's not running. Time to support one of those that are running.

[Maple]

4. I agree

9 probably 10 fresh candidates are in place.

Gore is history now. Let him be.

[NicRic]

26. Disagree, I want to Win !

Not all Americans are as active in politics as those whom come to this board .I was watching a local TV News show and they where asking people in the street about the 9 or 10 Dems running for office in 2004, I was amazed at how many did not even know the names of most of the annouced runners. With Gore you have instant name reconiction ,a proven record , exprience in foriegn affairs (very important in next election) I will vote for anyone going up against bush in 2004,however I would feel alot more confident about winning if Al Gore ,who is actually our President in exile was running. Yes emotions of what was done to us in 2000 would arise ,I say good !Al Gore is STILL polling ahead of all others when included in any national poll. If you listened to any of his recent speeches ,he is right on the mark on what Dems should be saying about bush and company ! Drastic times call for drastic measures .As of now all the Dems are doing is putting the voters to sleep. People long for the Clinton/Gore era. A history making convention ,topping the news as Draft Gore takes over the convention ,now that will wake up the voters and get them out in masses for the Dems ,more then anything else.Like I said I want to win in 2004. Putting any of the annouced runners up against bush ,is taking a gamble to say the least. With Al Gore ,and a popular running mate ,I see this as a sure win ,and it will have bush and co. very nervous !!! Gore in 2004, yes here we go again. I like the idea of bush watching Gore being sworn in after Gore kicks bushes butt in the rematch of the century ! Have at it ,flame away.

[magnolia]

32. NicRic

No flames from me! I am currently reading Hillary's book. Reminded of the day Clinton announced Gore as his running mate. Watching these two incredible young men and their families...it seemed as though anything was possible.

[Must_B_Free]

6. "Time to support one of those that are running"

what is this based on? Why is now the time to support one who is running?

In my mind, that time is after the Democratic candidate is chosen.

NOW is the time to be looking at our choices and I have expressed why Al Gore is THE choice in the face of all the lies spread about why he isn't the choice.

[bitchkitty]

20. Al Gore made his choice -

you really should just let it go.

[Must_B_Free]

21. let what go?

our safest best to save the nation?

Can you argue that someone else is a safe choice than Gore?

Anyone else is a grab bag, and at a time when the power people are going to try to control the thing any way they can.

All I'm getting from someone else besides Al is promises...

you need to let those tired slogans go and explain to me again why we can't have the best man for the job.

[liberalnurse]

13. I most certainly agree.

This pie in the sky dreaming and wishing gets us, the democratic party, now where.....I believe it keeps being posted and mentioned in the media, along with Hillary, as an effort to confuse and divide the party. It serves no other purpose.

It does serve *bush and company for us not to focus and unite behind our running candidates. How, it slows down grassroots momentum by waiting for the "draft" candidate, which inturns slows money contributions, dampens and divides the goal of productive,open and vibrant discussion regarding our selection of a formatable, running candidate.

Lets get with the program folks. *Bush is evil and we really have a lot of work to do as a united party.

[Must_B_Free]

16. "as an effort to confuse and divide the party"

I think the detraction efforts are more focused on telling usthat the candidates who would do what needs to be done are "unelectable".

so what you are saying is "don't dare to dream" - it's kind of defeatist, no?

I understand the caution in you sentiments, but I would rather have someone who I know what they stand for and what they are capable of and someone I know doesn't lie.

I don't know what I'm getting with Howard Dean. I don't like his corporateness and I don't like his smile. Some things he had to say sounded good, but is he going to deliver for America or just set up shop?

Thinking that a candidate is going to come out of the blue and be trustworthy is "pie in the sky dreaming", no?

And did Dean vote for the war or not?

[NicRic]

28. Hard to confused a cluster F#*%() !!!!

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[RC]

18. Absolutely

bu$h&co is the enemy.

The goal is to unseat bu$h&co and hopefully jail them for their crimes. The goal is not just for your man to win.
The goal is not just picking the winner out of the flock of also rans.

Back off and look at the big picture, people.

[Must_B_Free]

19. Yeah. but here's what i'm saying

The "Bush" thing to do in this matter would obviously be to bet on both horses in the race, just like Prescott did with WWII. That way, no matter who wins, they win.

I'm saying what needs to be said because I believe it to be true.

Until the Democratic candidate is announced, Al Gore has the best shot at winning the election, because

Al Gore has:
1. proven performance record
2. honored our trust, in 8 years of service

Bush has:
1. proven performance record of failure
2. lost trust
3. mass enemies created
... on and on

Any other Dem candidate has:
1. unproven performance on that job
2. unknown trustworthiness
3. unknown closet o skeletons

What's the issue? Why look for what we already have? Do you want what you know works, or a grab bag, given the fact that the corporatists are going to try to sneak control of this thing every way they can, no matter what?

What needs to happen is the bogus talking points need to be diffused with their sheer present absurdity. The posts on this thread demonstrates their hollowness, in the face of undeniable fact!

[searchingforlight]

5. I agree.

[Gingergal]

7. I think you should send it to Al Gore and a copy to the DNC!

Thanks!

[dofus]

8. So what will it take to

make you understand that AL GORE IS NOT RUNNING. He's said so himself. Many of us who voted for him, and haven't gotten over the election being stolen, have moved on to other candidates.

Keep in mind that Gore himself never really fought for the votes in Floridas. He played nice and see where it got him. He conceded when he shouldn't have. Why support someone like that?

There are several other decent candidates. Pick one of them to support now, and then support with all your heart and soul the one who gets the nomination.

[Must_B_Free]

9. why not read the post before you write you comment?

all you did was repet your talking point, which wasn;t actually applicable if you read the piece.

Would you care to address an issue or are you just going to spam the message.

[dofus]

33. I did read the post.

And I stand by what I said. It may be satisfying to wish that Al Gore would run, but it's fruitless. It's not going to happen.

And for every person here who daydreams Gore's campaign or a Gore administration, there are a hundred out there who voted for Gore and then felt betrayed when Gore didn't fight for the presidency in Florida. Think real hard about what kind of a sore loser he'd be labelled by the right-wing media.

Gore is NOT as universally beloved as some here want to think, nor are there vast numbers of people out there longing for a new Gore campaign.

Being realistic about Al Gore, his chances, and what it's going to take to win in 04 would be a lot better than this wishful thinking.

[liberalnurse]

14. Wake up.....

Its too late now.....he ain't running. Times up! Get a grip....

[Must_B_Free]

17. "Let's Roll"

"get over it"
"we can't get fooled again"
"let's not go into details"
"he said he invented the internet"
"I'm a uniter not a divider"

yea we can all talk without saying anything, so what?

[RC]

10. Has any candidate

accused The bu$h administration of war crimes?
Has any candidate mentioned the shipping containers in Afghanistan filled with prisoners, that we fired into?
Has any candidate questioned the murder of Saddan's sons? And why they should not have been taken alive so they could have been interrogated?
Has any candidate mentioned the warming friendship of Russia and Saudi Arabia and their oil agreements? Not to forget those two nice military bases we so recently vacated over there.
Has any candidate mentioned the unusually high cost if this war?
Has any candidate mentioned all those non bid contracts let to cheney's company?

When a candidate starts asking questions like the above and demanding answers, then I will select a candidate to get behind.

[Must_B_Free]

11. those sound like questions Cynthia McKinney would ask

maybe she should be drafted?

Is it a generation thing? People over 45 don't want to "rock the boat"? Just be happy that you're an American and not a dismembered Iraqi?

I'm 32 and I feel that Bush has stolen any hope for the future. There is no progress when all we can do is fight regression.

[angka]

12. my god KICK

i am red faced with angry like-mindedness

:kick:

[Solomon]

15. Agreed Agreed Agreed

I don't understand and I don't buy the stuff about its a distraction to call for a Gore draft. These people must be anti-Gore. We don't have a nominee yet so what's the harm in imploring Gore to run?

I've said this before. People know they made a mistake in putting Bush in office. They're likely to want to give the other guy a chance. I just don't get all this crying about "let him be." If he doesn't listen to our pleas then we will still have the candidates we have now. What the hell is the big deal? The way I see it, he would be the strongest candidate we could run.

And I wish people would stop with the "he didn't fight for the Florida vote. For chrissakes what else was he supposed to do? Throw a temper tantrum and ruin all chance of a future political career.

Sometimes you have to live to fight another day.

[Wickster]

23. Yes, I agree

I really believe that we need a proven, experienced winner (Gore won, remember) to unite behind as a party.

At this early stage in the race, I will look at all democratic candidates with a critical eye and will welcome all democrats who want to enter the race. I do know however, that whenever Mr. Gore speaks I HEAR him. When the other candidates speak I hear the people who support him say how wonderful he is. Okay, I accept that, but I also know that in my heart, Mr. Gore IS my president.

It is easy for me to say things like "he didn't fight for the Florida vote." However, how do I know that is true? All I saw was what the severly bought, er.. biased media wanted me to see. The media told us how to think about the whole situation. After all this time, and despite some excellent articles here and other places, some folks still must believe what the likes of the TV talking heads wanted us to believe. Someone brings up Mr. Gore's name and one of the first things out of another person's mouth is "internet." Although proven that he did NOT say he invented it, the words he did say were twisted and repeated enough and ridiculed enough that it is now part of the "fabric" of politics. See how easily we are conditioned. Yes, politics is a dirty business. I, as an ordinary voting citizen, can only imagine the wheelin' and dealin' in the "back" rooms.

I am afraid, I am VERY afraid, when democrats, who should still be in critical judgement/evauation mode (IMHO), discount any possibility of any democrat running for the nomination. What is worse, even condemn another democrat for whatever reason, particularly at this early stage. My daddy always said not to put yourself down because the whole world is out there ready to do it for you and you need someone on your side. Well, in my view, as a democrat, everyone out there is wanting to put me down. So I will have to say I am for EVERY democrat who is running and for every democrat I could get to run, particularly those with experience. I would like to set things "right" (NOT TO the right mind you :D )and put Mr. Gore into the White House where he should be. But, if I were Mr. Gore, I would want some folks to prove to me that I should hop back on this roller coaster - just because I might want to do that, doesn't mean that there will be enough support to run the gauntlet again.

I may be partial to Mr. Gore but I will support any democrat who gets the nomination eventho' I may not have initially found him/her to be the "best of the best."

I have joined the Draft Gore meetup. I have also joined the Draft Dean and Draft Edwards meetups - I will get around to joining all that I can. I want to learn everything I can about my candidates. Closing my mind and my heart too soon could lead to some real disapointment after the National convention. It will also (I hope) keep me from being as bad as the bush followers - settling on bush and supporting him blindly "or else."

[Q]

24. This ugliness towards Gore...

...is a disgusting sight to behold. It's as if some are blaming him for being cheated out of a win. (Like blaming the victim of rape).

- It's strange that so many of you have nothing negative to say about the other candidates coming 'late' into the campaign. You've got the fans of Clark who don't seem to care that he just barely declared himself a Dem and is still pondering a run in 2004.

- This negativity reminds me of the Will Pitt thread where he declared that we didn't owe Gore a thing...even as the Democrat who received more votes than any other Dem in history and was CHEATED out of a win.

- I now understand why so many people of conscience are leaving the Democratic party for 'greener' pastures. It's pretty damn sad when we as a party can't get behind a strong Democrat like Gore...who has done nothing but serve this country well for decades.

- It seems that many Democrats still don't understand the damage done to our country and constitution by allowing the stealing of an election to go unexamined and unchallenged. My guess is that they never will understand.

[RC]

25. Gore is still not running

To support Al Gore with all his perceived Clinton baggage would be to participate in the right wings divide and conquer tactics.
I think it is smart of Gore not to run. The same forces that hounded William Jefferson Clinton for for his entire 2 terms as President would be turned on Al Gore. If Mr. Gore ran, he would be used as the main distraction from the current failings of bu$h&co. And the Dems would fall for it by defending Gore, instead of attacking the criminals in this administration with the simple truth. Have the Draft Gore supporters not learned anything from the past 10+ years?
Gore is not running. Find a fresh leader. Someone new without targets painted all over him.

[Solomon]

38. That so-called "Clinton baggage" will come in very handy

when it comes to international affairs! Clinton was well respected internationally, and even more so now that the world has had a chance to see Bush's stupidity.

What would happen if other nations get involved with OUR elections by expressing the hope that a democrat like Big Dog be elected to calm things down again?

I can't believe people on this board act as though we can't MAKE something happen. If we yell loud enough, Gore just might hear us.

Sorry folks, it just makes me sick to think I may have to vote for someone like Lieberman. (I have to vote for whoever the candidate is) We will never never make progress in the middle east if we elect another war monger who unobjectively supports Israel in everything they do.

A Gore-Bush rematch would draw the most the biggest voting turnout in history. Where is Don King! We need to make this match.

[NicRic]

27. Beautiful , you are so right !

The Dems here dont seem very big on loyaty ,B/4 Gore annouced he wasnt running in 2004 ,he was the tops around here ! Loyalty to me is one of the most important things in any org. Gores fellow elected Dems showed none ,when Gore was being piled on by the repugs ! For that I was disgusted, and Iam standing by President Gore ,I voted for him and I will again !!!

[RC]

30. Blind loyalty is a trait of the repugs

When the situation changes, you may want to rethink things. Gore is not running. Support someone who is.

[Solomon]

39. This is not blind loyalty, RC. We want to WIN.

We will support whoever the nominee is. Telling us to support someone who is "running" doesn't mean we can't try and get the best man in the pot.

[KoKo]

29. I agree with all you say......but we don't know that Gore wants all this

to come out. He ran a very safe campaign..... We have no guarantee that he would want to prosecute any of these folks which is what needs to be done to clear America of their stench. (The Nixon Criminals who have come back in to power).

Sadly, unless average Americans cry out about this......no candidate will touch it because it would be political suicide.

But.......yes.....I wish in some ways Gore had done a rematch.......and in some ways I don't.

It's fantasy to think he would come in now, though. We have to hope that whatever Dem candidate we do get in....they will open an investigation into what went on in Florida......and get to the bottom of it. There was criminal behavior in that election and I want it hunted down and those who did it thrown in prison with heavy sentences.

That may be our best hope.

[magnolia]

31. It is a huge mistake....

...for anyone on this board to think that the attitudes and opinions of DUers are the norm. Let me tell you...they are not! People out there in the world, and I'm talking about voting Democrats, are not arguing over Dean vs. Kerry! They don't have a clue who Wesley Clark is. As someone said earlier...many people can't name even one candidate. Check it out yourself...do your own "Jay Walking" with your list of candidates. It will be an enlightening experience.

As for the "he said he's not running" brigade. THOSE ARE WORDS AND WORDS CAN CHANGE. For God's sake, you act as if it's been cast in stone or something. Life changes on a dime, constantly...look around.

Believe it or not...most responsible voting Democrats are not spending hours on the computer, reading every word that has been said. Chances are great, that when they are in the booth on primary day...only one name will stand out...because that name is associated with Gore. Lieberman. So unless you want to see Joe get the nomination...you better take those five dead bolt locks off your brain and give it some air.

Of course, we need to educate the public. But be open enough to let them educate you too.

[Must_B_Free]

35. I am frustrated with what

consider to be the baseless criticism.

when you examine the anti gore sentiments, they ring hollow.

Look aboe someone says "be realistic about his chances" yet a poll is thrown and he is TOPS!!!

Who is being realistic about chances here?

It is the strategy against anybody who appears a threat to Bushco. Kuchinich and Gore alike are essentially emmasculated by propaganda. They are called weak, limpwristed unelectable losers.

And who is the leading dem? The one who has the most money raising potential? Yeah, there's a great way to get away from the biggest problem we have...

Get it people? Values are what we need, not money. Proof, not promises.

[shatoga]

34. read it and weep

too true for DU?

[shatoga]

36. combat the attempt to post dozens of irrelevant topics

by bumping relevanttopics like this one

[angka]

37. another bump

kick