booley
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Sun Nov-21-04 11:48 AM
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Poll question: What would happen if Shrub did invade Iran? |
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I'm no foriegn policy expert. As you can see, I have trouble just spelling he word. So I ask you all for your thoughts. How likley are we too invade and what will happen if we did?
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Toronto Ron
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Sun Nov-21-04 11:50 AM
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1. I highly doubt there'll be an "invasion", per se |
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but they might lob some powerful bombs & missiles to try to "shock and awe" Iran away from its nuclear program.
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Sun Nov-21-04 11:51 AM
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2. and they might lob a few |
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the beginning of the end:nuke:
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Sun Nov-21-04 11:55 AM
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4. North korea will decide we must be stopped |
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Well maybe not but since our preemtive invasion will be Nuclear the whole world will be shocked and probably will get behind Russia.
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:55 PM
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15. If we invade Iran, Korea would have no choice but to |
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Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 12:57 PM by alfredo
attack, knowing they are the third in bush's Axis of Evil.
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Sun Nov-21-04 03:26 PM
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Korea will attack who, where, and with what?
The most hysterical estimate I've seen is that Korea might possibly have 9 nukes of unspecified yield versus the US's 10,000. Korea has no way to deliver those nukes to the US. Korea has no reason to visit those nukes on anyone, since to do so would guarantee destruction.
Korea has 22 million people total, of which about 15 million are between the ages of 15 and 64. If one out of seven of those people is under arms, they about equal the US in force under arms.
So they're going to attack the US in an act of mass suicide? And they're going to do this in order to prevent the US from attacking them with (we hope) conventional weapons, which is most likely what the US would do to take out their nuclear capability. Unless, of course, the Fierce Warrior Chieftain and his handlers think Korea would be a good place to test mini-nukes.
I honestly don't get this fear of North Korea stuff.
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alfredo
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Sun Nov-21-04 06:36 PM
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22. They would attack US assets in Korea and Japan. If they feel the |
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hammer is coming down anyway, why not get their licks in while they can.
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Sun Nov-21-04 11:52 AM
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3. We aren't going to invade |
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We are going to bomb the crap out of them, and then Bush will declare victory.
Of course, tens of thousands of Iranians will then be crossing into Iraq to fight us there....
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Sun Nov-21-04 11:58 AM
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5. If they can find a way to make $$ for corporate war profiteers, they will. |
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And if they have to draft, they will. They will tell the public 'the situation has changed substantially' since they denied there would be a draft OR they will just deny that they denied it.
The Corporations go on making lots of $$ from the US Treasury, the young all go off to war, well, the poor & middle class young anyway, the financial drain will require all 'non essential' federal programs to be cut and there will be a sales tax to take more $ from those who still have jobs.
Oh, and Roe v Wade will be overturned to stop the sniveling from the bushbots. Psychological testing will go on as planned and free thinking children will be medicated into submission.
By the way, read my sig line.
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Sun Nov-21-04 11:59 AM
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Logistically undoable- at first. They have tried subversion and have been duped by Chalabi. That still has not stopped their main(Sharon) plan probably for more subversion, a BIG bombing campaign and perhaps some inroads on territory, sanctions or whatever.
I fear- this time- Shrub will do it the short sweet and small force route. there is no one to liberate. Territory can't be conquered. The world will not even come close to going along part way.
So expect something brutal sudden and I am very afraid- in context of any new huge terror attack.. I can;t imagine our using nukes here, but a bait and switch might lead to nukes elsewhere like NK. And thereby terrorize the world into submission. It's all we really have left without general drafting and horrendous military expenditures.
The Dems gave them more. They will take even more. Then Syria too to be bludgeoned or coerced. We are already propping up the Saudis or vice versa or both. Voila, the twilight Islamic Empire is not even a dream as their single power resource is drained dry. Europe China and Japan are gamed away from natural success and rivalry.
And of course as we fail in each step the next will go ahead anyway and the next and the next until the string snaps and we lose everything and take a whole house of innocent cards with us.
I go to the mall and watch TV and see nothing of the world we are killing.
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:05 PM
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7. We will invade, must invade, it's writen in the plan. |
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reality will bend to their will. It may be a long term bomb them for 12 years first kind of thing but it will happen and will start within the next 2 years, and will cost our country dearly.
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:13 PM
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When we went to Iraq, it was obvious to anyone who knows how to read a map the ultimate goal was an Iran sandwich.
But until Iraq is stable and an ally, it's simply not going to be doable. We can't both attack Iran and watch the back door.
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:14 PM
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9. I'm afraid that we might use nuclear weapons |
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in a "pre-emptive" strike against Iran.
I am very very afraid for us and the world if this happens.
I actually had trouble sleeping last night because I couldn't stop thinking about this real possibility.
I am starting to develop a little bit of an anxiety disorder, I think - every time in the last week I hear the media beating the war drums about Iran my heart starts to race. I'm starting to get very freaked out about that situation because I know that we don't have enough manpower to launch an invasion. Which tells me that we are either going to bomb the living crap out of them (using nukes?) or institute a draft. Both of these possiblities scare me badly.
Anybody else experiencing these feelings?
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Sun Nov-21-04 01:05 PM
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16. That is why bush has called for a new generation of nuclear |
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weapons that are better designed for his agenda. They're not so big that they destroy whole cities, but big enough to terrorize a nation into submission.
Look for bush to act right after the election is certified.
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Sun Nov-21-04 01:30 PM
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19. That is what will happen? |
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No choice will be the rationale...used because it was the only way to save our freedom and the freedoms of the world from the clear and imminent danger from Iran and their nuclear plans, etc. Also, in reality, it will be the only choice because we do not have the additional military to do it otherwise.
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:38 PM
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10. At most an air strike |
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Iran or North Korea could threaten to drop a bomb on us and Bush can't invade. We don't have the troops, and we are already over our heads in Iraq. The Bush administration can't handle real threats, just invented ones.
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:41 PM
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...is imminent. The PNAC policy almost mandates it. I also believe that nuclear weapons are a strong possibility. I don't know about the IRanian government's ability to obtain ICBMs, but I have read that they are planning to arm missiles with nuclear warheads. I really am beginning to believe that Shrub is the Anti-Christ.
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:43 PM
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12. Me too. It scares the hell out of me. n/t |
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:47 PM
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13. The European nations will probably get involved this time. But, probably |
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economically. Maybe even China will get involved economically as well. European nations and China will probably pull out of our markets and stop buying American goods. The dollar will probably plummet even more and we will be hit with a depression even worse than the first because China will convert to using Euro monies.
DISCLAIMER: I'm just speculating here. I could be way off, it's just that this is what I think will happen. We will be hit economically!
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Sun Nov-21-04 12:54 PM
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14. There are 80 million Iranians |
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...and a strong militia in Iran. If the Iraqis are able to keep us at bay with Kalashnikovs and IEDs, what would three times as many Iranians be able to do.
I don't think BushCo is quite that stupid. Naturally, I hope they don't prove me wrong. :scared:
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Sun Nov-21-04 01:17 PM
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17. I know we're going to do something to Iran. |
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They have WMD's and OIL, so Bush will have to invade (besides, he seems to like three letter words. They're simple.) So, I hope when the invasion comes its the candy one. Probably not, but I don't want our soldiers to have to deal with another quagmire.
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Sun Nov-21-04 01:21 PM
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18. We will go after Syria first. |
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After all, it's another tiny backwards Ethiopia that Busholini can conquer.
Then Israel and the US will go after Iran.
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Sun Nov-21-04 02:43 PM
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No wonder they despise us. Even critics of the administration's policies disrespect the Muslim world. Syria hardly qualifies as a backwater--it wields significant power in the region. Ask the Lebanese.
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Sun Nov-21-04 06:43 PM
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23. It's easy enough to topple a 3rd-world government |
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Establishing a friendly replacement regime is much more difficult.
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