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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:02 PM
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A Proposal: Blue States secede to become part of Canada! Could Work!
Don't have a link for this. Got it in an email. Great Idea! ;-)

O Canada, we plead to cede to thee


By HOWARD GENSLER

ADOPT US, O Canada!

As a blue-red split continues in the Divided States of America, we note that every blue state is contiguous to Canada or to a another blue state that is contiguous to Canada, except Hawaii - that's not contiguous to anything but a lot of blue water that's contiguous to Canada.

Therefore, we've got an idea. How about a sort of second American Revolution, Canada, in which you annex all the blue states, liberate us from King George, and thus become the world's sole superpower.

What Canada Gets:

* Higher education: All eight Ivy League universities, Stanford, U. Chicago and Northwestern all just lowered their admissions standards for the kids from Saskatchewan.

* Serious sports: Forget the Super Bowl. With the Eagles, Patriots, Steelers, Jets, Vikings and Packers, the Grey Cup is where it's at.

You get the Expos back as they're now in D.C. But who needs the Expos when you've got the Red Sox, Yankees, Twins, Mariners, Giants, Dodgers, Angels, Padres, Phillies and Pirates. The World Series is coming! The World Series is coming!

The Raptors are Canada's favorite basketball team? We don't think so.

What about Flyers-Maple Leafs? Flyers-Canadiens? Settle the strike and drop the puck.

* Warm-weather vacations: Sun yourselves whenever you want in Southern California or Hawaii at Canada's beautiful beaches.

* The cultural arts: Tourists will love Canada's museums including the Smithsonian, the Museum of Natural History and the Philadelphia Museum of Art. Plus, in addition to Broadway, the Kennedy Center and top regional theater, we're throwing in our best orchestras - Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago and L.A.

* The entertainment industry: You already love our movies and TV shows more than those red-staters and now when that rare production shoots in California or New York instead of Vancouver or Toronto, you still get credit for the jobs and the tax revenue.

* The automobile industry: Ohio can keep its Honda plant. GMs, Fords and Chryslers are made in Canada.

* The biotech industry: With many of the world's top biotech firms located in Massachusetts, New York, Washington and California (thanks to $6 billion in new stem cell research funding), it's likely that Canadian scientists will cure cancer and heart disease within the next 50 years.

* The computer industry: That's right, we keep Microsoft, Apple, Hewlett-Packard and Silicon Valley. "America" gets Dell.

* A burgeoning tourist industry: You've now got a lot more to sell than Toronto, the Cabot Trail and the glaciers in Banff. Even red-staters love to visit Atlantic City, the Liberty Bell, Maui, the Space needle and Disneyland (now Disney Canada).

* Fresher produce: Canada, the artichoke, garlic and strawberry capital of the world. And Canadian wines just got a whole lot tastier.

* Arnold Schwarzenegger: He can't be president but he'd make a swell Canadian premier.

What the Red-Staters get:

* Exactly what they want.

What Blue-Staters get:

* Canadian citizenship: And we don't even have to move.

* "O, Canada": A national anthem that's much easier to sing than "The Star Spangled Banner."

* Free flu shots. (Not to mention free health care.)

You don't like our "values," red-staters, you've got your wish - we're outta here.

But remember, the next time you want to see a Broadway show, visit wine country, Hawaii or the birthplace of liberty, don't just bring your Visa card, bring your visa.

You're in Canada now. And we're tightening our borders.
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Don't delay, Canada. This offer expires in four years.


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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:07 PM
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1. Sounds fine to me.
We already have a web page up about California leaving

http://moveoncalifornia.org/index.html
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:08 PM
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2. Interesting!!!! Maybe sad maybe not I can see something like that happen
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:13 PM
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3. OK By Me
I live about 40 miles from a Blue State (Illinois), so it's no great stretch to make a 'run for the border.'
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:18 PM
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4. I live in NH, dropping the border down a few hundred miles would be easy
opinion. Getting Canada to accept us would be the only problem I see. Who wants a bunch of impolite, loud Americans to join their Country and start telling them how they do everything wrong. We can't even "play nice" amongst ourselves anymore.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:21 PM
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5. Get the lawyers involved.
How many signatures do they need from each state to make it happen?
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:23 PM
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6. Sounds Magical to Me, Merlin! ;) n/t
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:29 PM
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7. Other than two points, works for me...
* We'll have to run trucks up the west coat and along the southern Canadian border to transport stuff from there to the east coast...gonna be mui expensive. Also have to ramp up alternative energy to make up for what "Jesusland" keeps (Gulf refineries, etc)

* Will any plane that flies over "Jesusland" immediately be shot down? Might pose problems for the airlines.

Other than that, I don't see a problem...where do I sign?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:32 PM
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8. The Gropenator has to go before I will advocate for this!
One of the conditions of annexation is that the Groper is turfed. Other than that, love the idea!
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 07:14 PM
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25. I second that Spazito "Leave your Antichrist Behind!"
Did you know that "Regional Leader " in Austrian is GropenFuhrer? (sp?)
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:58 PM
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9. How about a new country based on the principles of the Old Democratic
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 01:59 PM by Zorra
American Republic called the United States of America?

I don't like the idea of a monarch, even if the monarch is only a figurehead.

Monarchy is such a republican party ideal.
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UNIXcock Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:56 PM
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15. Now there's a novel idea - take OUR country back instead of ...
... running away. First sensible and realistic post yet, thanks Zorra
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:03 PM
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10. Thanks for that!!
I love it!
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KnowerOfLogic Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:18 PM
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11. I've been saying this for a long time, and i'm 100% serious.
Hey, i know we would be sad to see a split in america, but really, it would be for the good of all. Is there any one on this board who can seriously say that they would not like to live in a country without the Red states? I think most people are just fearful of the costs of seceding or emotionally attached to the idea of the old America. Personally, i think it could be done with acceptable costs, and we'd all be glad when it was done.
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:49 PM
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12. Awesome!
Where do I sign? Understand Blue State Alliances are starting to form in different states. This sounds great!
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MrZack Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:53 PM
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14. Interesting idea..
...to say the least.

I also wonder what our situation would've been like today if the South managed to secede after the Civil War, taking all the baby-jesuses with it.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:18 PM
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23. Hi MrZack!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:52 PM
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13. With all due respect to Canada, why do we have to join them?
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 03:52 PM by maveric
We could form our own country and adopt some of their laws and policies. We're not Canadians were disenfranchised americans.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:14 PM
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16. How about we adopt Canada?
Keep America together with all of the red and blue states. It would be kind of sad if America split apart. Instead, why not merge with Canada and make them part of our country? The right-wing voters still here wouldn't be much of a threat then..they'd be VERY outnumbered!!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:16 PM
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17. Canadians wouldn't do it. It's against their principles to
invade countries or annex territories. However, I don't think Americans want an official Queen figurehead either, which we would have to accept to become Canadians.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:18 PM
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18. I'm hip to that!
Any petitions to follow up on? O8)
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:20 PM
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19. I'll even learn French, I know how much W and the rest of the assholes
hate it.
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:25 PM
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20. Check out the California Move On Site
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:14 PM
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22. Woohoo, it's starting to get legs.n/t
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sierrajim Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 07:43 PM
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26. I dont know about the whole state of California
Look at the map theirs a lot of red out their compared to us.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:50 PM
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21. Do we get to keep Washington DC?
It's the most blue part of the country.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 07:00 PM
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24. DC is True Blue and contiguous. DC Rules. DC goes with us!
The United States can relocate its capitol to someplace in Oklahoma, Nebraska or Utah, states where Republicans own ALL the counties. (No offense to DUers from those states; in fact, sympathies to you.)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:51 AM
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27. Alabama sounds pretty good...
It was the ORIGINAL capital of the confederacy before Virginia suceeded.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:21 AM
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32. Sounds good.. Maybe they'd rename the nation to...
DumbFuckistan.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:46 PM
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34. The United States Under Jesus of DumbFuckistan, thank-you
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:03 AM
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28. You think Canada would want the blue states?
California alone has over 35 million people. That's more than all of Canada.

You think Canadians are hopped up to instantly become a minority in their own country?
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:05 AM
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29. D.C. is not connected to any blue state
How could we rectify that situation?

Pre-emptive strike on Maryland? :evilgrin:
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:20 AM
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30. Wow! Scared me for a second. But Maryland is solid blue and connected.
I thought for a moment I had misremembered, but the great state of Maryland will proudly cast its 10 electoral votes for John Kerry. (Went blue by 13%!)
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:21 AM
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31. Really? Wow
I actually never knew about Maryland... jeez... sorry guys :)

It's too late at night :)
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:57 AM
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33. New Caledonia...
This is a proposition I have heard for sometime...

Nothern Cali, Oregon, Washingtom, British Columbia, and Alaska.

Sounds like fucking heaven. im there.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:48 PM
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35. I think this would be a great match-up. And it'd be great to be able to
immigrate to Canada via an American state.
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