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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:05 PM
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The real danger is not ROE v. WADE
I personally do not think that Rove will risk losing elections to overturning Roe v. Wade - Rove is a smart man - diabolical, but smart. He knows, as many Republicans have said off the record, that the party just likes to have Roe "to kick around." Rove knows that he would lose the entire section of Republican women and suffer a massive backlash if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned.

The real scenario is something like this: Rehnquist resigns and is replaced by a far-right, radical judge that puts Scalia to shame. But when and if O'Conner and Stevens resign, we may well get a rabidly libertarian judge approved by the CATO institute - a stealth nominee who is libertarian on social issues and supports Roe v. Wade. Dems support him or her, only to find that s/he is a radical far-righter when it comes to federalism and the ability of the federal government to regulate.

In essence, the danger is that we wind up with an economically reactionary activist court that undoes the New Deal and all the protections that came with it. Think about it - what has the Bush administration been all about? They are determined to destroy the American economic system for their cronies.

Trust me - we're being a bit blind here. Certainly we have to see that a potential judge is in favor of Roe v. Wade but I fear we will fail to see the real danger. And frankly, if I had to choose one or the other, I would rather Roe v. Wade be overturned than see all the state's regulations on commerce and business and labor overturned. At least abortion can be dealt with in legislatures and would at least lead to a backlash that would sweep Democrats and moderate Republicans into power to protect the right to privacy. If the New Deal state is declared unconstitutional, there's very little anybody can do.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:11 PM
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1. What's Gonzales?
What kinds of rulings has he made on economic social, business and labor issues? I hate that he's being floated as a moderate because of an abortion ruling, I agree that we're going to be blind-sided by judge nominations. He could well be one of them.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:12 PM
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2. Its ALL part of the same.......
I have beat this drum for 3 years and no one listened. Of course this is EXACTLY what will happen....add assault on the environment and all civil liberties and F*CK public education.....that's the window into the future and we can't stop it.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:16 PM
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3. I agree the Republicans just use
the Abortion issue as red meat to keep their base strung along.

Just think. Overturn Roe--Backlash from Women and a lot of men.
but more importantly Overturn Roe and your right to lifers do not have a cause. This is why they are always submitting some bill
like gagging doctors etc. This keeps the Right to Lifers in their camp and voting for them. Get rid of it and you have to come up with another cause. The same with Gay Marriage. It is more a campaign tool
to use for election than something they really want to do anything about.

Corporate Interests ar alwys the utmost importance to Republican

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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:18 PM
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4. Unfortunately"if" is the only word I see in your post. You have
projected this into oblivion. Let's build the Party and push our desires if we do it right the public will determine the future. Amazing as your logic is I feel Roe vs Wade will be fought best in the public arena.I don't feel we should abandon any civil rights.We have fought to hard for them. I even feel that gun control should be
dropped as it stifles a civil right. We are for more freedom,are we
not?
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