A question about Deep Throat and Bob Woodward.

[gordianot]

This just occurred to me watching ABC news this morning. Bob Woodward was singing the praises of George W Bush in nominating Rice for Secretary of State. Enough to make me ill.

Speculation really hit me. This is the same man who hounded Nixon out of office. George W Bush is an investigative reporters dream. Why is Woodward not investigating W and his long long sordid history and current schemes.

It hit me, could George Herbert Walker Bush Senior (Bush I) have been Woodward's informant "Deep Throat". I know his name was considered and discarded, but why has Woodward become a Republican hack? What does Woodward owe the Bush crime family?

[chelaque liberal]

1. Makes sense, doesn't it?

[LiberalFighter]

4. If it had been revealed that poppy was responsible in the beginning

poppy never would had been vp or prez

[whalerider55]

2. hmmm.

it ain't who ya know, but who ya blow.
and it ain't who ya blow, it's how you blow them.

you might have a point.

google skull and bones.

whalerider55

[canichelouis]

3. Very Interesting

I have been wondering what the story behind Woodward is for some time now. Who could or would take this one on, I wonder?

[newyawker99]

41. Hi canichelouis!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[HereSince1628]

5. Tear approximately 24 inches of tin foil, fold in half shiny side out

Fold left and right corners toward middle and bottom to create a "triangle" or "sailboat" profile roll bottom edges on both sides.

This results in a nice "Napoleon Bonaparte" type of tin foil hat.

Everyone in the know, knows, Elliot Richardson was DEEP THROAT.

[gordianot]

24. I found my old tin foil hat and put it on.

My thinking became much clearer.

Yep Richardson was the one.

One question though, remember the man who destroyed Nixon, smeared the good name of the Republican party in the mud? He was a member of the radical liberal press, and poisoned conservatives everywhere. Years later he also did a number on Clinton thereby keeping a reputation as a "investigative reporter".

Why is that same young reporter now older and fatter crawling up the posterior of the most corrupt, incompetent, self effacing jerk to ever hold the office? He just happens to be a Republican. Why would they trust the slug who destroyed Nixon? There is a high degree of trust.

Yeah you are right I could never picture Poppy in the garage. That is not the family style. My apologies.

[JPJones]

6. Doubtful. Bush was CIA. They keep secrets.

And Nixon, before his second term, said something like, "Fire everyone, except George Bush, we can trust him."

[gordianot]

9. Ever hear of a legend?

[JPJones]

11. What do you mean? n/t

[gordianot]

13. In the intelligence world you create an impression or identity.

You use that identity as your cover. If someone sold Nixon who was basically paranoid that amount of trust with Bush they must have worked at it.

Like I said speculation.

[whistle]

7. It is what Nixon said makes all people eventually conservative....

...and thus republican, "I've got mine now, so to hell with the rest of you!"

[JPJones]

8. Woodward was always a Republican

Now his game is about access.

[gordianot]

10. Who was he working for?

Rockefeller?

[LSdemocrat]

26. Exactly. Watergate wasn't about justice to him. It was about fame.

He didn't pursue Watergate to further justice or democracy. He simply saw it as a potential gold mine for his career as a journalist.

[gordianot]

27. So he is for sale to the highest bidder?

Why do the Republicans trust him?

[glitch]

12. The far right took Nixon down via woody. Since the bushes are puppets for

the far right it would make sense that Woodward would prop them up.
They work for the same people after all.
I think deep throat was a team effort.

[gordianot]

16. You are probably right on team effort.

Would be willing to bet Bushco in an early form was there.

I could really choke on this one. Poor Nixon a little dog who was eventually replaced with a bigger dog.

I also am becoming convinced there are no Democratic teams.

[jdj]

23. God, that's what was fomenting in my head.

If poppy was involved, that means it was a hit from the right, and the dem congress just did their work for them. This may be a so-MIHOP mentality, but it just makes more sense than anything else I have heard.

Of course, I was so young then I don't know what it is like to live in a world where justice prevails.

[gordianot]

25. My point exactly.

Why would Bushco ever trust the man who smeared Nixon? I would think they would want to keep the Coyote out of the hen house.*


*Quaint Red State farm analogy

[serryjw]

14. BUT WHY?

DT is still living, I will grant you that. What did GHB gave to gain by bringing down the Nixon administration?

[gordianot]

17. Off shore oil in Vietnam.

Nixon was wanting out, had determined U.S. could not win the war.

Just a guess?

[serryjw]

21. Didn't we open trade recently with Vietnam?

[gordianot]

22. Yes

Offshore oil fields are on the docket.

Guess they got what they wanted after all.

[Carl Brennan]

36. Nixon was trying to crimp the CIA's drug dealing, IMHO.

[Ms_Mary]

15. I've heard Bushies tout that book and sing his praises

But I read the book and it did not impress me one bit. I put it down with even more reservations about Bush than when I picked it up. The loyalist relationship between Bush and Condi is particularly disturbing. She's like a filter who determines what people can say to him.

[Pepperbelly]

18. How would the old fart have known?

Deep Throat knew some pretty private things going on in the WH. Was Bush close enough to have known these things?

[merh]

19. Poppy may not be Deep Throat, but I believe he was involved

in giving Woodward his info. I have been saying that poppy was involved ever since I read Woodward's sap book about the weed and how he said he was focused and had good intentions. Woodward owes poppy something as all he is now is the BFEE's lap dog. yelp!

[gordianot]

20. Right

:kick:

[RainDog]

28. Woodward=The Military's Media Man

http://www.watergate.com/

In the research leading to the publication of Silent Coup, authors Colodny and Gettlin undercovered evidence that Naval Lieutenant Bob Woodward had briefed Alexander Haig as early as 1969. When confronted with the question of if he had ever briefed anyone, he responded in the negative and added "I defy you to produce somebody who says I did the briefing, it's just — it's not true" Hear and read Woodward's denial.

In response to Mr. Woodward's defiance in this regard, the Nixon Era Center releases interviews by Bob Gettlin of three substantial sources that confirm that relationship existed between Woodward and Haig. Hear the excerpts and read the transcripts.

[RainDog]

29. Silent Coup

http://www.SilentCoup.com/

The truths unearthed by Colodny and Gettlin are shocking: They show the president at war with the government of his own making. Among many revelations in "Silent Coup" are these:

* The military spy ring, reporting to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that penetrated the White House while opposing Nixon's foreign policy goals.

* The presidential aide really behind Watergate: the details of his own clandestine and unauthorized intelligence operation; how he engineered the Watergate cover-up, lied to Congress, and placed the blame on everyone but himself.

* A woman whose name in a private address book may have helped cause Nixon's downfall.

* The Watergate burglar (speaking here for the first time) who was given a special floor plan and a key to a desk that was the true target of the break-in.

* The reporter who has concealed his real military background and long-standing Pentagon and White House contacts, and how he protected them - and their motives - with the cover name "Deep Throat."

* The White House Chief of Staff to whom Nixon turned for help, but who worked mightily to conceal the military spy ring and in the end was a moving force behind the president's resignation.

* The true target of the breakin was in fact "NOT" Larry O'Brien's phone, Chairman of the DNC, but that of an escort service the Democrats set up for out of town male visitors.

"Silent Coup" contains exclusive new material gathered from hundreds of interviews, from still unreleased government documents, from the complete Oval Office logs of Nixon's presidency, and from a painstaking cross-examination of the books and testimonies of the major and minor players in the story. The result is a major revision of history, one that will forever change our understanding of how and why Richard Nixon was forced to resign his office.

[gordianot]

30. Thanks

I'll check this out.

[goclark]

31. Poppy in the middle

Do a search here on "Poppy in the Middle" and you should find many excellent examples of his fingerprints on every nasty political deal since/before the death of Kennedy.

Some people, tinhats to some, believe that Bob Woodward is/was CIA.

Some people, call them tin hats if you want to, believe that Poppy could have very well been Deep Throat or a source for Woodward.

It really amazes me that some refuse to believe that Poppy is really in control the entire show now.

Don't forget that it was Poppy who came to the WH to have a private meeting with Cheney the night before 911.

Poppy Stays In The Middle!

[Kathy in Cambridge]

32. Bush Sr. wasn't in the CIA until 1977

He was ambassador to China under Nixon, I believe.

[gordianot]

33. He was also a representative before the CIA job in the Nixon era.

There is a long history of CIA connections for Poppy.

Golly an early Porter Goss!

[Carl Brennan]

35. How do you know he was'nt in the CIA?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

40. Kitty Kelley's book

[Carl Brennan]

34. When Woodward heard Poppy speaking in his run for Prez

in the 1980 primaries it went "click". "Now where have I heard that voice before?"

:tinfoilhat:

I am almost certain that Poppy was Deepthroat.

[barb162]

37. The last book Woodward wrote was not exactly flattering to shrub

It was fairly flattering to Powell, Armitage, etc., but it clearly showed the Bush gang impetus and momentum toward the Iraq war and once it was on that roll, nothing was going to stop us from going in.

I have heard sometimes that Pat Buchanan may have been deep throat but most of the time I don't believe it. I think he was a loyal Nixon man.

[barb162]

38. the last book Woodward wrote was not exactly flattering to shrub.

It was fairly flattering to Powell, Armitage, etc., but it clearly showed the Bush gang impetus and momentum toward the Iraq war and once it was on that roll, nothing was going to stop us from going in.

I have heard sometimes that Pat Buchanan may have been deep throat but most of the time I don't believe it. I think he was a loyal Nixon man.

[gordianot]

39. Woodward practically fawned over * today on ABC news.

How W is empowering people and the marvelous choice Rice is for Secretary of State.


I thought his last book made * look bad, but the pResident and his men really liked the book.

I does not add up.