FUC*ING SICK!! "Video game simulates Kennedy assassination"

[VOX]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6549265/
Video game simulates Kennedy assassination
Developers say program designed to undermine conspiracy theories
Reuters

Updated: 5:35 p.m. ET Nov. 21, 2004
LOS ANGELES - A new video game to be released Monday allows players to simulate the assassination of President Kennedy.

The release of "JFK Reloaded" is timed to coincide with the 41st anniversary of Kennedy's murder in Dallas and was designed to demonstrate a lone gunman was able to kill the president.

"It is despicable," said David Smith, a spokesman for Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy, the late president's brother. He was informed of the game on Friday but declined further comment.

Kirk Ewing, managing director of the Scottish firm Traffic Games, which developed the game, said he understood some people would be horrified at the concept, but he insisted he and his team had nothing but respect for Kennedy and for history.

"We believe that the only thing we're exploiting is new technology," said Ewing, a former documentary filmmaker and senior executive with Scottish developer VIS, responsible for games like "State of Emergency." He said he sent Edward Kennedy a letter before the game's release.
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Shooting the image of Kennedy in the right spots in the right sequence adds to the score, while "errors" like shooting first lady Jacqueline Kennedy lead to deductions.
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And if this isn't enough freeperish fun for the feeble-minded, the games Web site is sponsoring a "Win up to $100,000" **contest** -- for $9.99, you can try to equal the kill-count of Lee Harvey Oswald's alleged shots -- so not only does the customer line the pockets of the sickos who made this turd, but he enables the reinforcement of the suspect Warren Commission at the same time!

http://www.jfkreloaded.com/competition/
To win the competition, you need to most closely match the shots taken by Lee Harvey Oswald, as concluded in the Warren Commission Report on the assassination of JFK.
Accuracy of your shots (in terms of trajectory and timing) will be judged purely by the JFK Reloaded server, which is programmed to audit each shot for timing and injuries, and thereby arrive at a total score. The higher the total, the closer you are to Lee Harvey Oswald’s actions – and thereby the more clearly you prove that Lee Harvey Oswald had the means and the opportunity to commit the crime.
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BURY this piece of hateful trash by letting every legislator you know about this, and by contacting the creators themselves at:
http://www.jfkreloaded.com/feedback/

I feel thoroughly ill.

[Brundle_Fly]

1. Yup

I thought postal, and postal 2 were gruesome, but this is the sickest POS I have seen to date...

I hope they go bankrupt.

[TaleWgnDg]

40. And it is hoped that the Kennedys sue . . . n/t

[AliciaKeyedUp]

42. What would they sue for?

It's sick, but what are they doing worthy of a lawsuit?

[WMliberal]

2. what next?

upgrades that include Lincoln, MLK jr., Garfield, McKinley and RFK too?

:freak: :freak:

[Wonk]

3. A flight simulator where the objective is to fly planes into buildings? nt

[WMliberal]

6. NICE AVATAR!!!!!

well... i remember my lab in "Math of Powered Flight" (great class to avoid calculus. you learn how to navigate an airplane!) that was pretty much what everyone would do when we got bored. I mean, you can only go from radio beam to radio beam for so long on Flight Sim before your attention span has expired.
we'd find our old high schools and dive. or maybe where an ex lives. highly amusing.

[Valerie5555]

14. How about an "OCCUPIED AMERICAN EMBASSY - TEHRAN" playset

<sarcasm off>


Complete with "EMBASSY HOSTAGE" and TERRORIST ACTION FIGURES.


I bet if anyone came up with one, I bet Amb Bruce and Penne Laingen wouldn't have liked that one bit.

[progressoid]

4. This is possibly the most awful game I've seen.

These people are probably part of America that values "morals"

[AG78]

5. Don't they have a game

based on WW2 these days as well?

Anything to make a buck. And further militarize the populace.

[VOX]

7. And here's a desktop image you can download from the company...

It puts an image of JFK in a cross-hairs. This really should be pulled!


And here's a screenshot from the came itself:


How's that for entertainment. Since this game was developed in Scotland, it shows how the U.S. is **really** respected in the world...:grr:

[Djinn]

11. nothing new

people have always made toys that relate to war/killing. Does this toy show how the US has no "respect" for Vietnam?

http://store1.yimg.com/I/outerl_1807_14436217
Vietnam GI Joe

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

33. Can anybody...

... spot Poppy Bush in this picture?

[AngryOldDem]

48. That is just about f*king sick.. n/t

[Lerkfish]

54. ok, I'm against censorship usually, but didn't SOMEONE

at their company stop this bad idea? I mean, it went as far as coding (which is an expensive investment)...

man, oh man, reality tv and then THIS! we are truly in bizarre times...

[Lizzie Borden]

8. This is just plain sick.

Who would buy this? Sometimes I can't believe how violent our society has become.

[lgardengate]

9. Proof this culture is SICK! Nothing will surprise me now

I don't see how anyone could put out such a game.:puke:

[Piperay]

10. This is Chimp's

America. :puke:

[gordianot]

12. After all these years why are they so defensive about this?

Some one is going through a lot of time and expense. Sick

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

13. This is to offer sexual pleasure to freepers

Every time they "kill" JFK in the game they soil their pants.

They probably masturbate to Zapruder's film.

[Jack_DeLeon]

15. I dont see the problem...

yeah its fucking tasteless but its a fucking video game?

Why are you people somehow disturbed about this when we already have games like GTA, and all kinds of military simulations?

Also why are you disturbed by video games when there is so much real killing going on in the world?

Hell the day 9/11 happened I read posts by people on other forums trying out the MS Flight Sim and recreating the crashes.

Its just a game, it isnt real.

[AuntPatsy]

16. In theory it is a game, in reality, it happened to real people that

are simulated for someone's sick reasoning towards it having entertaiment value.

I am sure if you had a beloved family member killed in such a way and then one day you see people playing this horrific scenerio out over and over again and laughing as they watch heads blow up, which could have your father's, mother's likeness....

I have seen people play these types of games, they laugh, I don't believe the murder of a loved one should be consider enjoyment so outlandishly as in using a video game...

And again, you have freepers and we all know its true that will find extreme enjoyment in killing liberals over and over again, nice way to find ways in keeping us so united...

[Djinn]

34. how many times has the Zapruder film been shown?

did NOBODY you know rewind that to watch Kennedy's brains go back into his head? Yep it's a sick game but really who cares?

[tx_dem41]

22. Why can't a person feel offended by the video game AND...

the "real killing going on in the world"? You seem to think its an either/or situation. I have to ask...what about YOU, makes you feel that way?

[aquart]

37. "You people"???

[Jack_DeLeon]

41. Whats the question?

you people = the people who get worked up over this

what did you think I meant my that? :eyes:

[OneTwentyoNine]

50. I do because,if a "Shoot Reagan" game came out simulating

The attempted assination of RR what would the media and politicians be doing with that one? Lets see if they offer up any "outrage" over this "Kill Kennedy" game from the Republican side of the isle.

Hell,CBS couldn't even air a fucking show about Reagans life because it wasn't sugar coated,I'll be waiting for Republicans view of this.

[Jack_DeLeon]

56. So your real problem....

is with the media and not the game?

[OneTwentyoNine]

57. My "real problem" is hypocrisy in general.

I don't think there should be a game period about taking pot shots at Presidents whether their Democrat or Republican.

My point is that if this were a "Shoot Reagan" game that came out on the anniversary of Reagan's assignation attempt or on the day he died the Repukes and their Whore TV lapdogs wouldn't give it a minutes rest until it was pulled from shelves.

Lets see how much "outrage" they exhibit over President John Kennedy.

David

[AmericanErrorist]

17. Undermine conspiracy theories?

Huh?

[Javaman]

18. When it's open season on morals and ethics, nothing is safe...

There is no decency any longer in this country. The ultra rightwing freepers will buy this up. They don't give a shit.
As a response we should make a talking doll of reagen that forgets what he says.

[KC_25]

23. That sounds familiar?

"When it's open season on morals and ethics, nothing is safe...


There is no decency any longer in this country. "


you have to be for the first ammendment or against it..there is no middle ground for what you dislike...
that statement while well intentioned, just like the justified anger in this thread, is exactly what we accuse the freepers and and * of doing is it not? squelching what they dislike and disagree with?
This isnt decent by any stretch of the imagination, but neither is porn really, but that is ok?

[Sparkly]

28. "This isn't decent... but neither is porn really..." HUH???

If "porn" is generally about sex and human bodies, why isn't that "decent?" Sex and human bodies are life-creative; violence is life-destructive.

I really dislike the convolution of sex and violence as if it were one and the same. Some people like violence with their sex or sex with their violence, but they are two different things and should be considered such when we're debating what's "decent."

Show me two adults, or three, or an orgy with props and toys, having delirious sexual pleasure and nobody getting hurt or coerced, and to me it's "decent." That's a very far cry from a commercial game based on the murder of a president, an event many alive still remember, including his relatives.

If there are legal protections against anything (and you bet there are), there should be protections for the Kennedy family against this.

[KC_25]

39. so this offends you and your sense of morality..right?

So does porn to many people.
So why is it ok for there to be games out and about on the internet that beat *, or to shoot him and his cronies up? Could that not be construed as an abstract threat by the freepers and they cry to have that shut down?
Again, it can't be freedom of speech for everything except what you do not like, that is the freeper mentality. I'll bet that if someone tries to truly ban it, the ACLU would take the side of the producers of the game.

[Javaman]

55. True, I agree

I think the concept of moral decency in regards to the death of a president is an exception but what do I know. Freedom is freedom, regardless of what is said.
In that case I will go dance on reagens grave, all the while smiling. :)

[American Tragedy]

19. I wonder what he said in that letter to Teddy explaining all this?

How would you tell JFK's brother that you made a video game based on Kennedy's assassination, from Oswald's POV?

It is sick. Just watching the Zapruder film is hard enough, I don't know how someone can endure this.

And nobody can accuse me of merely being partisan. I would still consider it sick if there was a game that realistically depicted a Republican president being slain. Wouldn't you guys? I mean, I was no fan of Reagan, but I wouldn't like a game in which players shot at him. Incidentally, I wonder how the media would treat such a simulation, compared to JFK Reloaded?

[Blue_Tires]

20. i'm a gamer and i've played shooters for years

and i think this is in poor taste

[Raiden]

21. This is beyond sick!

I wonder when they'll make a Holocaust simulator. It could be fun---rounding up Jews, playing Dr. Mengele, gassing prisoners... Or maybe a lynch-mob RPG. Our culture is really fucked!


I can tolerate violent video games. I love GTA, but this is just in bad taste!

[Djinn]

58. sadly if people could make a buck out of it

that's absolutely what they'd do - it's capitalism

[Name removed]

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[Sparkly]

25. The point is WAY beyond who was "good"

President Kennedy WAS MURDERED. Profiting by making a game of anybody's murder is horrible (shall we next have a video game of Margaret Hassan being shot, or the beheading of Nick Berg?)!

The murder of our president was a national tragedy, and this commercial product sounds like sheer exploitation of a day history should mourn forever. This isn't a discussion of who should or shouldn't be "the target," so don't bait it there. Our party is still bruised from the assassinations of the 60's, and neither this game nor the game you're trying to start have a place in a peaceful, self-respecting nation.

[Catherine Vincent]

38. alerted

[Forkboy]

26. Wont help get it banned

but I do share your disgust.

I doubt this "game" will be sold in any mainstream outlets though...I admit though I could be wrong on that.

[geomon666]

27. Seems like it's only an internets download anyway.

But this is sick. It's like the previous person said. Why not a game about the holocaust or Pearl Harbor? Or a KKK game where we can kidnap black families from their beds at night and hang them?

[Forkboy]

29. No arguments from me

it is sick.

[geomon666]

30. Ugh!

Each shot can be replayed in slow motion, and the bullets can be tracked as they travel and pass through Kennedy's digitally recreated body. Players can choose to see blood by pressing a "blood effects" option.

Lovely. How about an MLK game? I can already smell the synergy. Fucking bloodsuckers.

[Flammable Materials]

31. THAT'S not sick. Not compared to THIS.

"Ethnic Cleansing: The Game"

This will make you spit nails. Don't say I didn't warn you.

http://www.resistance.com/ethniccleansing/catalog.htm

[Zynx]

36. Is that for real??

[Southpaw Bookworm]

51. Most likely

A lot of white supremacist organizations are drawing in new recruits through the use of games such as this, where they dehumanize their "enemy" to turn on hatred.

Actually, it's a lot like the video games the military uses to train recruits for bombing missions.

[kayell]

45. OMG, that is a frightening site. Makes freepers look cuddly and sane.

:scared:

[aquart]

32. $100,000 to match the shots?

Just what I'd offer if I knew it was impossible.

[KenCarson]

35. ok. i'm not surprized.

for the agegroup this is marketed at, this subject is all an abstract myth. it's not reality. if you look at the content of lots of games, it's often offensive to good taste. but there is a rating system. i wonder how it is rated and marketed.

as an aside, i am a doll artist, and although there have been many dolls of Jacqueline, i've yet to see one in the pink suit, even though it's a nice suit. i think it's more the nature of the group to which it is being marketed.

[DerekG]

43. I had an argument with many at the Lounge over video games

Most of the posters told me to "get a grip" because I decry the WWII and Vietnam games; murder simulators that aid in militarizing our culture and teaching our children to be more efficient killers. Read some of the "it's like a video game" comments coming from our soldiers.

And don't compare me to Lieberman either: I'm an anti-imperialist, that POS was complicit in authorizing a war.

[killbotfactory]

44. Don't care.

I've killed millions of people in video games. Destroyed the earth ten times over. Beat up hookers. Ran over children. Etc...

It's not real. Don't care.

[Victimerican]

46. So I take it it's a multiplayer game?

/conspiracy

[DS1]

47. Actually it's something I've always wanted to try

:shrug:

Then again, I'm a better shot than most - it's not about killing anyone but seeing what it was the view and shots were like.

[warrior1]

49. sue them

I'm sure the family has rights to JFK's life and image.

[charlie]

52. Don't bother

They've omitted the scope skew that Oswald had to contend with.

And while they insert aim wobble between shots to simulate reloading, the aim returns automatically to its previous mark if you don't try to correct it.

While they tout the authentic mechanics of the simulation, it's still videogamey enough to not be realistic.

[whosinpower]

53. Well that is thoroughly disgusting

Entertainment via assassination.....why not create a game that would shoot and kill bush....see how far THAT game would get.....(sarcasm firmly on for those who might think I am serious)