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POTGNE Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:31 AM
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Government Mandated Drugging of Kids!?
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 10:32 AM by POTGNE
Something needs to be done about this! This is the most absurd and Orwellian idea I have ever heard of! Everyone should write in opposition of this bill to their Senators! I know I certainly don't want my children to be turned into walking zombies! This crackpot idea came directly from George Dumbya Bush himself, who implemented the same program (called the Texas Algorithm Project, or something like that) in Texas. One couple there had their son taken away for child neglect for taking him off of his medication when they found out that it was causing horrible side effects. I know for a fact that this type of thing happens too, because my cousin's son has an ADD related complex. She was threatened with action recently by the School system's nurse who said taking him off of his ADD meds was tantamount to taking away a diabetic's insulin. That's ridiculous! ADD is not a life threatening condition! I've watched her son lose massive amounts of weight, and that's only one of the side effects that this medication has had on him. Now he has a heart condition that he never had prior to starting this medication! Some of these medications are VERY new, and they can't possibly know the side effects until they've been in circulation for a while. I, for one, don't trust the government to tell me when my kid needs to be medicated for their "mental" health. I also don't trust the pharmaceutical companies not to use our children as guinea pigs with the full backing of the government! This is INSANE!

News Article Below:

Bill to Screen, Medicate Kids May Hit Senate This Week
by Christopher Getzan (bio)
Legislation to test children for "mental health disorders" and then provide them commercial drugs -- which would be highly controversial if people knew about it -- could reach Congress during this month's lame duck session.


Nov 15 - Funding for a controversial Bush administration plan to submit the nation's school children to mental health testing and drug treatment may end up reaching the Senate floor this week, as GOP congressional leaders look to clear the legislative slate in order to set the table for George W. Bush's second term.

The plan, called the New Freedom Initiative (NFI), is the keystone of a package of initiatives by the President's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, a group of doctors and mental health care professionals established by the Bush Administration in 2002.

As previously reported by The NewStandard, the Initiative’s critics, ranging from grassroots mental health advocacy organizations to government whistleblowers, have said the NFI's proposals do little else but establish state-mandated markets for the psychiatric pharmaceutical industry.

In 2003, the Commission published a report recommending states encourage more mental health testing and treatment for Americans and suggested public schools were an ideal place to access students and begin to root out undiagnosed and "severely disruptive" mental health issues. It pointed to a program begun during George Bush's governorship of Texas called the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP), which set a standard operating procedure within a flow chart allowing psychiatrists to identify and medicate possible conditions.

"It doesn't have the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for a political purpose; it's the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for an economic purpose." --Allen Jones, Whistleblower
In a report posted on the website of the Law Project for Psychiatric Rights quotes a whistleblower who says doctors staffing the Texas program had strong links to pharmaceutical companies, and those doctors often prescribed expensive, brand-name drugs over cheaper alternatives. The source of that claim is Allen Jones, a former investigator for the Office of the Inspector General who says he was fired for speaking out against a TMAP-style program in Pennsylvania.

The NFI plan, said Jones, does not "have the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for a political purpose." Instead, "it's the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for an economic purpose."

Another critic of the initiative, holistic mental health advocate David Oaks, says the end result of the New Freedom Initiative’s recommendations will be nothing short of "hundreds of thousands of more kids being put on psychiatric drugs." Oaks is director of the mental health advocacy group Mind Freedom.

In Oaks’ opinion, the issues of child mental health are not only more complicated than just testing for disorders and putting kids on drugs, but are also colored by powerful societal pressures and millions of dollars in drug revenues. Oaks has called the president’s plan "No child left undrugged."

Nevertheless, the plan does have some powerful supporters. The American Psychiatric Association, which itself receives some of its funding from drug companies, has voiced approval for the plan, and a number of other states are already researching and implementing their own versions of TMAP.

During a "lame duck" session of Congress, Senate leadership is trying to push through unfinished appropriations measures for fiscal year 2005. The Bush administration had requested about $44 million for states to implement mental health screening. The House version of the bill, which has already passed, includes $20 million in support of the New Freedom Commission’s plan. It is unclear how much the Senate will appropriate.

On the coattails of the bill's passage out of the House, Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas) is now championing the "Let Parents Raise Their Kids Act," which would prevent federal dollars to fund any universal system of mental health screening that does not hinge on parental-guardian consent. Previously, Paul had failed to insert an amendment to the appropriations bill blocking federal funding of the NFI recommendations.








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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:41 AM
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dupe. sorry.
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 10:42 AM by Ilsa
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:41 AM
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1. Ron Paul is my rep, a Libertarian-turned-Republican.
I'm afraid "parental consent" may end up being a forced issue eventually, such as denied WIC benefits or something.

I guess this is one way to drive students out of public education if the parents don't want mandatory testing.

My oldest child takes alot of meds for his behavior problems associated with autism, and they have helped significantly. My youngest has some issues, but we aren't prepared to drug him yet.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:47 AM
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2. What goes around, comes around.
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 10:49 AM by The Backlash Cometh
My son would have been put on ritalin on this program. His elementary school, (which otherwise did a good job) wanted him medicated. I resisted because they said it could trigger Turrets if he had the markers for it. He then graduated into middle school and there he started a program which changed classes every hour and the problem resolved itself. No medication needed.

On the other hand, a friend who was Democratic before she became absorbed by her Chamber of Commerce job, had a son whose discipline problems only became worse with medication. He almost torched my backyard. I stomped the flames out in time. I suspect she created a lot of his problems, but, the point is, she steadily became more and more Republican in our relationship, until we stopped socializing all together. I'm pretty sure she voted for George Bush and I admit this required-medication is a bittersweet event because she was completely opposed to over-medication because of what it nearly did to her son.

In addition, when her son was in the elementary level, they failed to diagnose him for a learning disability. But, she loved that elementary school because that's where all the rich people around here sent their kids. Then the boy graduates to the middle school where there is a black principal. The middle school diagnosed the problem and guess what she does? She threatens to sue the black principal for not diagnosing the problem earlier. I told her it was not the black principal's fault, but the rich elementary school she so much revered. I haven't seen her since.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:40 AM
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3. They aren't JUST after your kids...

They are out to screen and posssibl drug EVERY american.Read about it.

http://www.mindfreedom.org/mindfreedom/bush_psychiatry.shtml
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:42 PM
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4. He has a lot of balls since he hasn't even taken his physical
this year.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:17 PM
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5. I am a special ed teacher
and I believe it IS neglect when a child with a psychiatric problem is denied help because his parents listen to anti-meds rambling from uniformed people. I am not implying that YOU are uninformed, but there IS a LOT of misinformation being given to parents facing this dilemna.

Yes, there are kids on medication who don't really need it and kids suffering some serious side effects. But there are many more, IMO, who need help but don't get it. For example, there are so many different drugs for ADHD these days that a parent should not refuse all meds because of problems with one.

It is also not right to put a kid on medication but ignore other therapies available. All kids on psych meds need counseling. They have social problems and many have learning problems. Medication alone is NOT the answer and it is wrong for a doctor to prescribe meds and not insist on counseling as well.

Parents faced with the choice of whether or not to medicate their kids should also consider the long term effects of doing nothing to help their children. IMO, those effects are much more severe than side effects to medications. There is lots of research available on this issue. Educate yourself and make an informed decision.
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