kentuck
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:17 PM
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Why do so many people discount the possibility of voter fraud ?? |
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There are those that believe with all their hearts that this election was stolen...just like it was stolen in 2000...except this time the fraud was more widespread. If, in the next few weeks, it is investigated and reported that there were a few errors here and there but there was no "voter fraud", it will not be enough to satisfy those that believe this election was stolen. No other issue, between now and 2008 will matter, unless we can get a credible voting system. Forget all other issues because they are really meaningless.
And then, there are those that believe it is just too far out there to be credible. They cannot bring themselves to believe anyone would resort to such a criminal or unbelieveable act as stealing an election. But, they admit that they believe it was stolen in 2000? If they did it once, why wouldn't they try it again? If enough is at stake, and it is, why would anyone believe they are not capable of such a criminal act? Of course they are capable.
So, does they truth lie somewhere in between? Did they steal some votes but not as much as we think? How do we resolve this issue?
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:20 PM
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1. Because they are Republicans |
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And they can't HANDLE the TRUTH!
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:21 PM
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2. those that discount the possibility of voter fraud are dellusional |
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my personal estimation is that they set out to steal 1 million votes, that would be enough to take what seemed to be a close race.
the other 2 million out of the 3 million margin where just moronic bush voters.
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:33 PM
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10. I agree with you 100% |
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.. and I believe the "stolen" votes were transparently shaved off of many "close" states to make sure they favor *, but the crescendo was OH and FL where the fix would have to go in! And that happened late in the evening on election day when the * cabal knew they were losing... just like in '00.
Call me :tinfoilhat: if you want to, but my gut tells me this is how it went down.
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:23 PM
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They don't want to admit that there could be fraud because the very idea that something that they consider the bedrock of our Democracy is actually shifting sands...
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:26 PM
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4. Because to admit it would mean they would have to do something. |
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I'm having trouble admiting it myself.
Without fair elections, there is no moral reason to obey the governemt; but to resort to violence or open rebellion is pointless, and suicidal.
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:27 PM
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5. It's too upsetting for most people |
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They don't even follow politics as we do. The possibility of voting fraud and electoral theft is yet another indication that they really don't have any power at all. A lot of people are already in a state of low-grade desparation about politics, and this will send many of them into complete despair.
Ironically, this is what conservatives want -- an unconnected, alienated electorate. That way, they won't think they have the right to make their needs and dreams known, leaving the powerful to do what they want -- which is to rule the world.
Frightened, weak people seldom fight for what they want, need, and deserve.
If you look at that as a starting point for empowerment rather than the perfection of powerlessness, you may yet have a chance.
--bkl
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:28 PM
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6. Do "many people discount" the possibility of election theft? |
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Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 09:29 PM by Meritaten1
Or is it simply that the media has chosen not to report the story?
The mainstream media is also not devoting a lot of attention to issues such as media consolidation, or how the absence of the fairness doctrine has impacted news reporting and campaign coverage.
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:29 PM
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8. The didn't see it on fox news... |
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Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 09:30 PM by Starlight
so there must not be a problem.
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:29 PM
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7. Possible perhaps, probable no |
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... it is a convenient way for some Democrats to justify the fact we lost. It's easier for them to pout and blame a massive conspiracy (yeah, right as if they're so bright they could pull it off) as opposed accepting responsibility that we just didn't get the vote out like we needed.
... and you know what that mindset promotes? It make potential and ambivalent voters stay away from polls in the future because of the belief their vote no longer counts.
... The votes were not stolen, the biggest crime is misleading young and fence-sitting voter leaning Democrat to refrain from voting because it's "hopeless".
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:31 PM
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9. cause it kaint happen here. Democrats might do it, but not |
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:33 PM
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11. I prefer to call it "possible machine glitches" |
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We don't have the evidence to call it fraud.
Maybe we will have, but we do need a recount either way.
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:47 PM
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:-( Lots of people have no clue this is brewing.
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Sun Nov-21-04 09:54 PM
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13. Because they can't handle the truth. |
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