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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:12 AM
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George W Bush billboards in FL (have a look!)
Look what is popping up in Florida folks--brings back memories of Stalin!:

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:13 AM
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1. I think I'm gonna hurl....
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:13 AM
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2. OUR LIAR
It begs for some photoshoping
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:13 AM
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3. are you serious,
or did you photoshop this? :scared:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:03 PM
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57. "Vote4Kerry" has less than 40 posts on DU & joined up last week
Prolly a photoshop. The guy who posted this (Vote4Kerry) has less than 40 posts on DU & joined last week. I'd put my money on it being a freeper trolling for panicky liberals. If no one can verify this, he's just a dude screaming "boo" in the dark.
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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:14 AM
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4. Reminds me of Saddam in Iraq
n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:14 AM
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5. WAR IS PEACE!!!!
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

1984 came 20 years later than expected.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:14 AM
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6. It's a trap to see who will deface it
Aim from a distance with a REAL sharp paintball gun....if you would do something illegal like that...
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:15 AM
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7. not a joke-in Orlando area
I think Clear Channel is the one that put it up (not 100% on that one though)
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:28 AM
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22. It is Clear Channel
you can see their name at the bottom far right
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:15 AM
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8. Stalin, Saddam, Kim Jong Il...They are all the same!
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:25 AM
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19. People need to start making the Stalin connection more and more
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 09:26 AM by jdj
and drop the Hitler one.

People in Russia still can't talk about Stalin. The world still can't get it's mind around what happened in Stalinism, unfortunately, because the dynamic is programmed as a family dynamic in early childhood which the world apparently is not ready to examine yet, to our detriment; the whole good/bad, black/white thing that we get programmed with in early early childhood to make us socially acceptable, there is no depth of understanding or examination given to children (I'm talking 2 and 3 years old) because they can't take depth in yet, there are simply rules, and one must fall in line. This is the mentality of these people, they so desperately want a Daddy to give their blind obedience to...it is the easiest way to function for people who are psychologically overwhelmede by paradox and contrast. (Probably because of brutality in their own early childhood, and to see their Daddy for what he was (or Mommy) would probably break irreparably their already broken mind).

Well, we've arrived at Stalinism, where one can be made "bad" specific to the current right-this-second circumstance, and one must keep weeding out the bad, and declaring loyalty to the captain of the good. The terms mean nothing of course, but for there to be some good there must always be some bad, and these bad must be shamed and punished, the public spectacle must be perpetual.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:20 AM
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36. Wasn't Stalin Saddam's hero?
good post.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:15 AM
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9. Tell me that is a photo shop deal..
I can't take much more of this.

What does it say across the bottom?
' not authorized by any camapign?? candidate......

yeah, right.
Jeb was out there in the dark with a big glue stick.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:15 AM
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10. and so it begins
if that is truly a political public service message brought to you by Clear Channel, all I can say is every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:15 AM
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11. All Praise Big Brother!
God, I miss the United States. :scared:
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:16 AM
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12. Brought to you by..... Clear Channel!!!!!
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:32 AM
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24. in the lower right
it appears to say 'Clear Channel'

Since when did Bush become the 'leader' of Clear Channel?

Tut-tut
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:19 AM
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13. Interesting but does this qualify as LBN?
Is there a link to the story?

It's way too easy to photoshop these days.
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:22 AM
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15. It is not Photoshopped!
There are two of these monstrocities facing commuters on I-4 approaching downtown Orlando and another on I-95 approaching Jacksonville.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:25 AM
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17. Not a joke -on I-4 in FL
I was just so sick when I saw this poster and wanted to make sure everybody knew that they existed..there might not be any articles yet about them but they are definitely up!
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:30 AM
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37. I-4 going east or west ?
near Disney I presume?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:37 AM
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39. Could we have another shot from a different angle, please
Not to diss you, but you signed up on November 16th, have very few posts, your name says "Vote4Kerry" which you signed up with 14 days after the election had already occurred, and we cannot confirm the billboard exists.

We need some confirmation. Sorry, but DU has had credibility damaged in the past by newbies posting bullshit stories and crank posts.

Please get us confirmation.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:20 AM
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14. Alright, who's going up there
with a big, fat Sharpie? That is just crying out for a Hitler moustache.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:45 AM
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27. Or a spray paint in black and in front of "Leader" put "mis" for misleader
nt
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:22 AM
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16. the Leader is good, the Leader is great
we surrender our wiLL
as of this date
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:44 PM
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72. nana-nana-nana-nana-LEADER!!!!!!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:25 AM
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18.  I like it. I really do.
While 17,000 lawyers are working over the recount matter in Ohio, and John Kerry is staying out of sight except to discuss health care for children via an online video, I want this billboard to stay up.

It will look so gorgeous when it comes down.

Remember the toppling of Saddam Hussein's statue in Baghdad?

Think we can get the National Guard to help us take this one down?

Oh, right. They're all in Baghdad..............
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:28 AM
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20. Just one more reason we will delay our pilgrimage to FL
for the winter! I'll have to see at least one of those suckers!

Maybe the owner is gearing up for the recount!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:28 AM
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21. Right-wing billboards can be seen from here (Central Fla.) to
Gainesville and from here to Ocala on the interestate. Mostly anti-abortion billboards. But they all have ClearChannel's name on them.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:29 AM
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23. Yet another reason to boycott FLorida
I think I might crash if I saw that while driving- how utterly repulsive.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:04 AM
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31. My Son Will NOT Go To Florida
on spring break for a LAX tournament. Not one time of our money will go to FL.
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:33 AM
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25. Just because the Press does not see fit
to report our descent into dictatorship, this should not be locked as not LBN. It is news that for the first time in the history of American Democracy such idolatrous displays are occurring.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:41 AM
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26. Anybody know cyrillic?
I'd bet this says OUR LEADER also

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Krupskaya Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:47 AM
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29. It doesn't.
At the bottom, it says "Iosif Vissarionovich Stalin" and over his shoulder it says VKP(B), which stands for "All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks)."

But, you know, close enough.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:46 AM
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28. Here ya go -
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:51 AM
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30. CLEAR CHANNEL DENIES BILLBOARD EXISTS
I just called their press person in Jacksonville. You KNOW this billboard exists, guys, you've seen it? Because I can't even write about it. I'm sending their sales person in Jacksonville the photo now, but he says it's not actually there and probably photoshopped.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:07 AM
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32. keep us updated!!
Thanks for looking into this!
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:15 AM
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35. Also, Orlando guy was out of the office...
So just waiting for Jacksonville guy to email me back. I'd agree -- can we get a photo from a different angle? Can others weigh in who use these Interstates? Has anyone else actually seen them?
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:37 AM
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50. Some more evidence
This MAY indicate a legitimate photo:

Post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2736060#2736327

No absolute confirmation, but a good case.
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:45 AM
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41. I'd say Clear Channel is guilty until proven innocent. n/t
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:10 AM
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33. What people need to
do is to pull a Doc Sarvis on it.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:13 AM
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34. Could we get a photo of this from a different angle?
Coinfirmation would be nice here.
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:32 PM
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64. Here is another view of the same
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:34 PM
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65. Awesome -Where is this sign located?
Good job getting different angle--where did you find this sign?!
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:38 PM
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68. ...'awesome'?
how's it awesome?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:33 AM
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38. Maybe we should buy a Clinton billboard:
"William Jefferson Clinton: Our great PEACE and PROSPERITY PRESIDENT"!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:44 AM
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40. I CALL BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Two threads posted within five minutes of each other and Clearchannel denies the existance of the billboards.

I call bullshit on this one.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:46 AM
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42. Bullshit kick
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:50 AM
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47. I haven't seen any confirmation at all that it's real.
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 10:53 AM by Stephanie

The logo is a little over-the-top. Two threads posted by the same newbie. Lots of comments but no verification. I think your call is probably right, unless a witness pipes up that they've actually seen it.

I've asked for witnesses here, but none so far:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2736060

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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:55 PM
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76. It looks like a very deadpan joke to me...
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:47 AM
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43. looks like
they touched up the photo too

clearchannel is such a sorry fucking company, although they have a good 19th century business model
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:47 AM
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44. I would make one slight change to the illboard (deliberate typo)
The letter 'Y'

Your Leader

You chose him. I didn't. You deal with the bad Karma coming. Reap what you sow.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:51 AM
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48. The picture is a photoshop
This is not real, somebody is yanking chains.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:49 AM
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54. fixed
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:48 AM
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45. Nice try...
This is BS....How many threads are you going to start concerning this Photoshop job?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #45
46. Notice the name
and the date he signed up. Dead giveaway.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #46
49. Yep...
incredibly lame.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:40 AM
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51. bullshit. it doesn't exist, and you should go back to freeperland
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:52 AM
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55. It is NOT photoshopped!!
I took the picture. Now I feel like I am in a Kafka short story. There are two actual billboards and anyone who commutes down I-4 near the Fairbanks or Princeton interchange cannot miss them. Surely some other DUer has seen them. I don't know if Kerry4President is a Freeper or not. He borrowed the snapshot I took and uploaded. I took it with my own camera and did no retouching at all. I know you are reluctant to believe this can happen in America but if we stick our heads in the sand until this becomes commonplace it will be too late.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:31 PM
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63. Sorry, it WAS photoshopped
Perspective between the Bush photo and the rest of the billboard is wrong. Look at this redlined version here:

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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:42 AM
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52. Unsere Fuehrer...
...in the original German.
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:45 AM
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53. Why do you call yourself "Vote4Kerry"? You joined last week.
Nov. 17th to be exact.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:00 PM
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56. Here is all info I've got so far on signs (links)
Been busy at work and don't have much time to post right now, but here is all the information I've got on signs (Sorry to cause such a big controversy here). From what I hear, one of the signs is located on I-95 near the I-10 junction. The person where I got the information from says the signs are owned by these people:


Clear Channel Outdoor
5333 Old Winter Garden Road
Orlando , FL 32811
Phone: (407) 298-6410
Fax: (407) 297-8176

The original place where the thread got started is here (where I was able to get my information):

http://forum.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?s=dc433bf60ac75886963f9f6e18f3a87b&act=ST&f=12&t=38200&st=105

Also,here is a group that is putting up Bush signs (link):
http://www.frwsb.org/GOP-Billboard.htm

Hopefully you guys can investigate this further. I am definitely not willingly trying to post false information. The above are my sources and I have heard several people verify that signs exist. Please check it out for sure! Thanks everybody (Got to go back to work but will be back on later in day for updates)!
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. Bullpoop!
The link to that GOP group says or shows NOTHING like this board They are putting up something entirely different. And rumors spread on Randi Rhodes' message board are proof of nothing. ESAD!
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #56
61. I'll delurk for this controversy
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 12:26 PM by KyndCulture
I got emailed the pic with a link to the DU post saturday. I posted the link on Randi's Board. I posted the clear channel information today. I called Clear Channel and my sister in Jacksonville. My sister says there is a billboard with a picture of Bush in Jacksonville, but she didn't see what it said. I'm guessing it may be this one. She said they put it up saturday, but she's an old fart and doesn't have or know how to use a digital camera....

I also called clear channel and they deny the billboards exist. I am a web designer and the pic I was emailed does have a signature from a Nikon digital camera..but there is little else I can see. The person who emailed it to me, got it from DU. I have family in Florida so I thought I'd try and figure out if it was real. No luck yet.

I can't prove or disprove the existence of the billboard. Some folks from Randi's board are in Orlando and they are going billboard hunting this afternoon...

Sorry folks... I don't know what else to say!?!?

Lisa
KyndCulture.com
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #61
67. Interesting, because these things showed up on DU today
not Saturday. I saw no thread whatsoever with this photo on Saturday.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. I did see the photo over the weekend
Without vouching for the billboard's Stalinesue authenticity, I did comment that certainly the picture was from some plastic surgeon's clinic because Bush doesn't look that healthy.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #67
75. There is another pic of the billboard...
I went a looked at the img src where I found the link, in the directory there was this pic.



I did see a thread Saturday, ... I'll see if I can find it.... these are the 2 links I was emailed. I'm not a freeper and def not trying to cause any problems. I too would like to know if it's photoshopped.

Peace!
Lisa
KyndCulture.com

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cabbage08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #61
69. do you have the link from this weekend?
It may prove to be a photo shop job yet, we will have to wait for confirmation
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #61
77. Is it possible that an anti-CC/Bush group really put up a billboard?
In the tradition of Billionaires for Bush and Betty Bowers, a very deadpan joke?

If so, hats off.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #56
62. The perspective in this phony picture is screwed up, here's the proof
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 12:27 PM by Walt Starr
Redline is 100% perpindicular to the rest of the photo, as is the edge of the Bush photo, but look at the post beneath it compared to the rest of the redline.

This is a proven photoshop!

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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:41 PM
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71. If I hadn't taken the picture myself
I would be convinced by your analysis. Unfortuntely it is not a fake. Here is another view of the same billboard.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:03 PM
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79. Excellent
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 01:04 PM by KyndCulture
The source of the picture. Hey Dav? Where exactly is this, the folks on my other board that live in Orlando want to go see this... (I hope they take eggs!)

Lisa
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Miami Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:21 PM
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59. I'll be in Orlando this weekend
so I'll be on the lookout for this. I haven't heard anything about this billboard from a few friends I have in the Orlando area. Seems pretty suspicious to me.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:24 PM
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60. Check I-4 heading into Orlando
I heard from some people that one of the signs was there
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:34 PM
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66. Wonder how long it will take for someone to deface it?
If I lived a little closer - I'd be very tempted....
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:46 PM
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74. as an expert
the perpendicular aspect of one portion is not important since there will be an area that must be perpendicular. At first the saturation of the blue surrounding the text (without any reflective qualities)seemed suspect but with the addition of another angle shot -I will have to study the 2nd shot before rendering an opinion.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:46 PM
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73. That really is horrifying
There are no other words for this. Its so disgustingly sycophatic.

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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:58 PM
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78. dav
As billboards go - this is one of the most expensive versions.

I accept the validity of the photos.

here is what an altered version looks like

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