Who Can Stop Bush? A Coalition of Other Nations.

[genieroze]

I don't know if this was posted or not


Who Can Stop Bush? A Coalition of Other Nations.
by George LoBuono Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2004 at 9:36 PM


So we lost here, but can we prevail elsewhere?

Try, for just one moment, to see the United States through the eyes of other nations: Under Bush, the US declared that the Geneva convention is no longer valid. In other words, Bush clearly plans to commit war crimes. Worse yet, by threatening Belgium and boycotting the World Court, Bush doesn't merely want to abstain from humane decency during war; he wants to have legal immunity for committing war crimes, and perhaps worse.

Bush also wants to ignore the majority of industrial nations who agreed to the Kyoto accord. Hence, others nations who sacrifice to stop global warming are being undermined by greed and ignorance, here. On top of that, in late 2002 Bush sent emissaries to threaten Germany and France for not supporting unprovoked war against Iraq, overturning a decades-long alliance capriciously--on the whim of a then-minority appointed president.

Faced with such threats, any clear-headed European would conclude that Bush is both small-minded and dangerous. In other words, the biggest threat on the map, both to the sovereignty and equality among nations, may now be the United States--under Bush. No other nation comes close in this regard. No other nation extends itself so broadly.

By turning back the clock on an official ban on CIA assassinations and by placing the agency under Porter Goss (who is seen in a 1960's photo sharing a Mexico City nightclub table with Barry Seal, the biggest narcotics trafficker in US history), Bush raises yet another threat against a peacable world order. According to some within the CIA, Bush has initiated a purge of CIA "liberals,” which could conceivably bring back the old practice of murdering foreign leaders. Given Bush aides’ threats to prevent Germany from ever becoming a world power, even the Europeans have to assume that Bush could decide to target them, too, if he felt that the need was great enough.


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[Nimrod]

1. I think most other nations are smart enough...

To realize that * wouldn't so much as blink at the concept of WWIII (hell, he probably fantasizes about it). I expect most foreign nations will do everything they can to ride these times out, rather than risk another global war.

The rest of the world will literally have to have nothing to lose before they'll present a united front against us. * is itching for someone else to bomb.

[tk2kewl]

2. Man, this guy REALLY hates America

[ROakes1019]

3. Hate for America

I don't see that the man hates America; he hates Bush and what he's done to America. Personally, I hope the EU gets strong enough to challenge America. Even since the demise of the cold war, America has been drifting toward imperialism, especially under Bush. Already, the Euro is valued above the American dollar. No, the EU won't compare with America militarily, but economically both the EU and China are challenging America. If this is what it takes to wake up the Bush supporters in America, I see it as positive. Does this make me hate America?

[tk2kewl]

4. you will find much sarcasm at DU

welcome

:toast:

[genieroze]

8. Does this make me hate America?

No you don't. I love American that's why I hate what Bush is doing to her.

[kiki]

15. He's "practising his love" on her n/t

[MsTryska]

5. Any chance for a Military Coup?

that would be nice, wouldn't it?

like a real banana republic.

[LSparkle]

6. Except that * has alienated so much of the military

they wouldn't go for it. (He can't even do THAT right!)

[MsTryska]

7. No that's what i'm saying....

any chance they could just take over cuz they're sick of his crap?

[Cleita]

10. Be careful what you wish for.

Military coups never have happy results.

A citizens revolution would be more in keeping with our democratic principles. We do have a right to defend our democracy if it has been coopted by a dictatorship. I really think this is what the second ammendment is about, not just letting a bunch of freepers own assault weapons.

[MsTryska]

13. Yup.

that's exactly what the second amendment is about.


sadly i just don't see how we could have successful citizens revolt. considering half the country apparently thinks one way and the other half thinks the other, it would turn into a bloody civil war.

[Cleita]

16. There was another post on GD about the Mayan Calendar.

I don't know if you caught it, but the author made the suggestion that the new civil war would be fought in the courts through lawsuits, indictments and other such action in the court room. Just because the Supreme Court has been taken hostage by the PNAC doesn't mean there aren't plenty of liberal judges out there as well as conservative ones who think that their party has turned unAmerican.

It's time for Americans to band together to start bringing this regime down and putting them in jail one by one. Liberal lawyers need to band together to start doing this through associations that collect money for that purpose.

These maverick politicians on the right have committed so many crimes in the private sector it shouldn't be a big problem to start finding stuff to throw at them. We definitely, should start pressuring our elected representatives to impeach Bush and just do everything we can at every level to expose them for the ruthless Nazis that they really are.

In California, I say we start bringing our governor down. There is so much criminal activity in his background from sexual assault to shady business dealings that we need to expose him.

We need to start changing how we vote as well. Our system invites fraud. Also, it's time to start going after those churches who tell their congregations how to vote. They should lose their tax-free status for this.

This is how the new civil war will be fought.

[Cleita]

9. There was always a school of thought that

Hitler could have been stopped in his tracks by the western super powers if they had acted before he became too well armed and powerful by stopping him from invading Austria and Czechoslavakia. By the time he invaded Poland, it was too late.

Instead Britain and the US blundered and made concessions to him thinking that if they did so he would be satisfied. It turned out not to be that way. I think other democratic nations should band together and hammer out an agreement about what to do about this rogue government holding our nation hostage that has already overstepped it's boundaries.

If BushCo can be contained within our borders, then it's up to us, the American people, to get him out of our government. We need to push for impeachment first.

[OneBlueSky]

11. if Bush unilaterally attacks Iran . . .

(a strong likelihood, imo), the international community may have no choice but to take action to curtail him . . . an economic boycott would probably be the weapon of choice, along with various diplomatic moves (e.g. severing relations) . . . I don't believe that the world will sit back and watch BushCo rape and possibly destroy the planet without putting up a fight . . .

[TexasChick]

12. Took the words right out of my mouth, OneBlueSky! I would say exactly

the same thing! If he attacks Iran, expect the European nations to withdraw out of our markets, maybe even China! If China withdraws and changes to the Euro, we are literally f**ked!! America, we are in trouble!!!

[Hubert Flottz]

14. I just read the other day, that China made a huge oil deal with...

Iran! A hundred fifty billion dollar oil deal! China does have the power to slap Bushco down! The Bullshit star wars shield, rip off, will not protect us from incoming ICBMs should China ever launch a massive strike! China will not stand idly by and watch Bushco take out North Korea and totally destabilize Asia, like Bushco has done in the Middle East, IMHO!

Texas Chainsaw diplomacy is doing nothing but turning the entire world against us! The world knows that there is a mad chimp in Washington with his fingers on the big red buttons! The world surely would not be foolish enough to ignore the threat to world peace, that America is rapidly and increasingly becoming under this PNAC regime! Look for example at the standing armies that North Korea and China have, and think about the fact that America is already overextended in Iraq and Afghanistan! If Bush starts slinging nukes at any part of Asia, which looks like his only choice militarily should he really attack North Korea, the party is over for mankind! We stand on the brink of another "Cold War" at the very least, IMHO!

The Russians are with Bushco as long as America seems to be the best oil customer Putin has now! If China makes some big oil deals with Russia like the one they just made with Iran, would Russia still be on good terms with America, like she seems to be now? China is in a better position right now to import the Russian oil than America is! All China would need to do is build some pipelines! America's only access to the Russian oil is by super tanker! In a hot war a tanker is just a big fat sitting duck!