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Deathadder Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:56 AM
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The Petition Of Alberto Gonzales!! It's growing in numbers...
Please forward to your contacts far and wide...and as fast as possible!

Please help us petition the nomination of Alberto Gonzales for U.S. Attorney General.
He will most likely be confirmed, but there should be a louder voice of concern over his nomination
than our "representatives" are likely to express.
THE MORE VOICES WE HAVE, THE LOUDER WE WILL BE!!
If you thought Ashcroft was bad, fasten your seatbelts...just click and read.

Petition of Alberto Gonzales:
http://www.petitiononline.com/xxx2004/petition.html

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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:26 AM
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1. Just how many times are you going to post this?
And in how many forums? :shrug:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:22 AM
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6. Hey, the SEINFELD Show Wasn't a Hit Till the 4th or 5th Season
I'm right behind deathadder in posting THIS:

The supposed Liberal half of the pundits on CNN’s The Capital Gang (11-13) have already sounded the retreat regarding the nomination of Alberto Gonzalez for Attorney General with the words, “He’s got a great personal story, only one of eight siblings to go to college, and he maintains contact with them!”

While the Republican majority makes it unlikely that the nomination can be blocked, Gonzalez’s record, ideology, and role as Bush waterboy need thorough exposure and opposition. But the Democrats have to stay focused on those things and not allow the process to be framed on the basis of “ethnicity,” as in, “the first Hispanic, blah blah…”

During the ESTRADA hearings the beleaguered Democratic leaders actually stood firm and eventually won a rare victory, perhaps surprising even themselves, although the deciding factor might have been Estrada’s possible personal baggage instead of ideology. And almost all of the Hispanic organizations joined in opposing him based on his ideology.

With Gonzalez, the Republicans are springing yet again their “ethnic“ or “racial” trap that started with George I’s use of Clarence Thomas: Nominating a member of a minority group, perhaps not too bright or accomplished, but who toes the Conservative line, and, most of all, stymies the Democrats by their having to oppose somebody from one of their traditional constituencies. The payload of the “ethnic” gambit is to derail the vetting process, keeping attention away from the nominee’s record and ideological fanaticism.

During the Estrada hearings, Orrin Hatch was all over the media with a Shirley Temple pout, saying innocently, “How can the Democrats oppose this well qualified Hispanic?”

The answer then should have been, as now, “It is NOT about the ethnicity. That would be racism and quotas. It’s about the ideology and his record.”

This link covers his whole career: http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF ...

This link covers his role in the torture policy: http://lawofwar.org/Torture_Memos_analysis.htm (Home Page: http://lawofwar.org / )

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Link with e-addy blast list
http://www.stopalbertogonzales.com /
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:00 AM
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7. Whatsamatta?
IS it cutting into the time we spend on important stuff like Peterson, bashing southerners and moderates, and what Clinton said about bush*?
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:40 PM
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8. I was referring to the simultaneous postings of at least five threads
four of which were duplicates in two forums posted at the same time. Important, yes. I think one thread per forum would have been enough, though.
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prof_science Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:49 AM
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2. When I see "petitiononline"...
...I pretty much run the other way.

OK, let me get this straight-- I give my email address to spammers, and in exchange I get to sign a petition that has no legitimacy? Sounds great!
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Deathadder Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:01 AM
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3. Your email address isn't shown
and the petition is going to be used as part of a movement of data collected and sent to our senators, many groups are involved, but I'm sure it's better to just criticize. You know, when people on the right try stuff like this, everybody gets on board, and they don't shoot ideas and movements down, but people on the left love to talk and point fault, and get nothing done. So thanks for your help, with anti-productive words. I'm posting this petition in the name of action, not talk, so if anyone can help, thank you very much for your support.
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prof_science Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:17 AM
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4. Ok, let's relax.
I dislike Gonzales as much as you. I agree that he should be scrutinized (if not brought up on charges). But, my issue is with petitiononline.com. I do not have the same amount of faith in it as you. For what reason would they need to collect your email address if not to sell it to spammers? Must they submit your name, address, and email address for your "signature" to be valid? So what if they don't show your address, they still have it.

Ok, yes, whatever, I'm glad you're taking action against Gonzales. And you're also right in saying that I'm only talking about it, and you are taking action. I hope that I'm wrong and your petition gets something accomplished.
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Deathadder Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:26 AM
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5. Thank You.
And I'm sure you're doing more than talking about things, that's why you're part of DU, to coordinate and organize, to take action. You need to take action too, because with a name like Science, you're a wanted man, they'll want to see your tax returns.
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