greenbriar
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:30 PM
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My little bro is pissed and scared...he got a special letter from unca sam |
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Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 07:47 PM by greenbriar
back in 1997 or 98 he joined the Army. They lied to him and he would not have gotten his student loans paid which is why he joined...
well to make a long story short, he blew out his knee...ACL ended up not even finishing boot camp. He has discharge papers
got a letter saying he needed to finish.
WHAT THE FUCK
bad thing is...he voted bush because of Abortion even after months of me working on him...
sucks to be him...
I told him
you voted for the fucking bastard, I didn't, hope you got money for a lawyer
after the election, I was pretty depressed and my family all told me "its gods will bush won"
when anything happens, I am just gonna say
"its gods will"
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:32 PM
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1. so they are trying activate him ? |
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:34 PM
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3. not sure...sounds like it |
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he was pretty incoherient on the phone
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:36 PM
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4. here is my two cents... |
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I was in the military...6 years active Navy.
If he got out in boot camp with an injury what they maybe trying to do is ask him if he wants to 'rejoin' go to MEPS and have them check out his injury if he MEPS clears him he can rejoin. I doubt they are demanding he show up.
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:37 PM
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6. I kinda wish it was demanding |
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Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 07:38 PM by greenbriar
he show up...
serves him right
don't get me wrong, I love him, but he voted for the puke. I warned all my family. They thought I was too radical...and not christian enough.
I told them I was very much a christian and they would see it
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:41 PM
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13. I understand what you mean. |
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I feel the country as whole needs swift kick in the ass or some major hardship in order for it to wake up and realize what is going on.
It is sad but another depression or some other disaster is the only thing will wake people up.
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:50 PM
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16. somehow, I don't think that will work |
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I think they would follow him to the grave
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Tue Nov-23-04 09:56 PM
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27. The problem is, everyone thinks they've gotten the wakeup call |
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on 9/11 and they look to Saint W. to save them. They are so scared they can't think straight. Heaven help them if our country was subjected to a sustained attack.
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Tue Nov-23-04 09:45 PM
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22. So....he should be forced to go to bootcamp, go to Iraq, and die? |
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Man, I'm glad we're not related...
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:34 PM
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The GOP stock voter: too greedy and ignorant to vote for the guy who can fix their troubles.
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:39 PM
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10. Payment day - bend over to get screwed |
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Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 07:40 PM by Niccolo_Macchiavelli
Didn't he realize a Orient-Trip was in the bundle?
:nopity:
Walk the talk and have fun in IraX
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:44 PM
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I love what Niccolo said about Princes who aquire formerly self ruling Republics... don't you?
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Wed Nov-24-04 05:04 AM
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i love his attitude for gaming civilization etc. but i hope we're past that mode of conduct ...
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:36 PM
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That's one painful "I told you so."
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:38 PM
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Have never understood voting for Shrub on the abortion issue; number one, abortions are up under Bush; number two, Iraq now has untold numbers of mass graves filled with innocent children killed in Bush's War; number three, Bush's War will go on killing untold numbers of children through the use of depleted uranium bombs alone; number four (and I hope this is not the case with your brother) those of draft age who voted for Bush on the abortion issue will most likely find themselves in Iraq or other war zone, firing upon innocent children.
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Tue Nov-23-04 08:54 PM
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Bush didn't plan for the rebuilding of Iraq correctly and thousands of babies are dying in Iraq because hospitals do not have the water and electricity they need to make sure babies are born properly.
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Tue Nov-23-04 10:30 PM
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Tue Nov-23-04 11:00 PM
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32. Also firing upon pregnant women. |
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How's that for a kick in the cosmic ass.
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Wed Nov-24-04 12:05 AM
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37. Also tragic and true n/t |
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:39 PM
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8. That's the third post today |
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I've seen two other threads like this one. Looks like BushCO waited until after the election - now they are pulling out all stops to get more troops without drafting them. Hope it causes a riot!
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Tue Nov-23-04 08:08 PM
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18. yes, I was thinking the same thing. |
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you know what this means, they are using the dough ends in this batch, then they are going to start another batch with a whole new bag of flour (the draft)
my brother has been incommunicado with my family for months. The other day I took the oppty to say to my parents that perhaps he and his wife wised up and took their draft age sons to Canada, in anticipation of the draft.
(this isn't why of course, because they voted for shrub, like everyone else in my family did.
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:39 PM
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9. Welcome to the backdoor draft |
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The Army is scraping the bottom of the Individual Ready Reserve for anyone that still has a heartbeat...doesn't matter if you are fat, fifty and haven't trained for years...if you have the least bit of time on your original obligation, did not "formally" resign your commission, or do not have your official discharge from the Reserves, PACK YOUR BAGS.
Which is why I am frantically searching for my discharge papers.
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Tue Nov-23-04 08:07 PM
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17. You can get copies sent to you. |
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:40 PM
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11. I'm sorry to hear that. |
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He's still your brother even though he voted for Bush and I 'm sure you are worried about him.
Right or wrong, at least it was an issue of conscience for him and not just because he wanted the tax cuts etc.
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:41 PM
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12. That's what you get when you're a one issue voter and that one issue ... |
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Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 07:42 PM by BattyDem
is about taking rights away from someone else. At some point, the people who are trying to take those rights away will turn around and screw you, too.
I know a senior couple who voted for * because of gay marriage and now they're freaking out about SS privatization.
People are going to find out that payback's a real bitch!
Edited ... when will I learn to use the f*cking spell checker!
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Tue Nov-23-04 07:41 PM
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14. But, this is also weird... |
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I rec'd an EM today from the US Army, asking me to call them for a recruiting appt RE: my resume I had sent them. Oh really? I am a 52, almost 53 yr old woman. Can I still join? Talk about a waste of tax dollars, sending out bogus EM's.
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Tue Nov-23-04 09:52 PM
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in the mail, actually my FIFTEEN YEAR OLD SON got a letter in the mail from a recruiter. It's starting. You know, I have a 20 year old son also. Not one time did I ever get anything from the military for him. Until now. And now i'm getting them for both of my sons. OVER MY DEAD BODY!
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Tue Nov-23-04 08:45 PM
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19. "Onward Christian soldiers" |
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Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 08:46 PM by Carl Brennan
Don't let the door hit you on the way "over there, over there,...the thugs are coming and they won't be back till it's over everywhere..."
Like chickens voting for the Colonel.
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Tue Nov-23-04 09:42 PM
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21. Even if the idjit voted for Bush |
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I hope he doesn't have to go.
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Tue Nov-23-04 09:47 PM
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Tue Nov-23-04 09:45 PM
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23. What goes around, comes around. |
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And I have no pity for your brother. He wanted four more years of Bush? Well, he got it!
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Tue Nov-23-04 09:50 PM
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said "Greeting: From the President of the United States, You are hereby ordered to report......
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Tue Nov-23-04 09:52 PM
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26. As a one-time Navy man, I thank you for your service. |
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Unfortunately, we don't have an emoticon for "saluting," so I'll use this one instead:
:yourock:
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Tue Nov-23-04 09:50 PM
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said "Greeting: From the President of the United States, You are hereby ordered to report......
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Tue Nov-23-04 10:23 PM
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28. I believe if you did not vote for him & do not feel he is your Pres |
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then is no need for you to be of service to him or any other idiot out there in la, la, land.
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Tue Nov-23-04 10:27 PM
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that he go back into the force. WTF is he upset? Who is he to second guess Jesus?
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Tue Nov-23-04 10:52 PM
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31. New Military facility to rehab amputees for return to duty |
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A previous post mentioned a $10 million dollar facility to be built to retrain/rehab military amputees to climb walls, ropes, etc., so they can return to full duty.
If this is the case, a blown out knee ain't getting him out.
A marine NCO that was interviewed on AAR, told of recruits that once failed boot camp and classified as "Unfit for duty" to be returned home are now being passed through and sent on to Iraq and Afghanistan.
The CON chickenhawks have changed the rules so don't rely on what used to be cause it's the bodies they need. Don't matter how young or how old. Don't matter if healthy or ill. Don't matter what family crisis you maybe having.
My 17-year old grandson, who will be graduating high-school and is applying to colleges, is being bombarded by the recuiters promising college payoffs, world-travel, great bennies, etc. His Mom, Dad, grandparents, aunts and uncles are trying hard to keep his mind on his main goal and what is truth and fiction but I can see the pressure this young man is now under.
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Tue Nov-23-04 11:09 PM
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33. I'm ready to send a letter to the local college paper |
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Congratulating all those christian sagebrush Republican cowboy kids who voted for warChimp on having lost thousands and thousands of Pell Grants and suggest an early enlistment in the ROTC.
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Tue Nov-23-04 11:37 PM
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The best he could do (think any soldier) is to get an thorough "independent medical examination" from outside of the "system". Then get another IME coming out. You do not want to trust their medical doctors.
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Tue Nov-23-04 11:46 PM
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35. I joined the army in 1989 and was discharged at the end of basic |
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training for failing the pushup part of the Physical Fitness Test (PFT). When I was discharged, the army lawyer told me that this discharge won't help me and it won't hurt me but you still have your 8 year obligation to the Army. That obligation ended in 1997.
I was talking with my wife this past weekend about how I suddenly had this feeling that I'm going to be hearing from the Army sometime in the near future. Reading the post by greenbriar confirms to me that others who were discharged in basic are being searched out by the Army. Will I hear from them? I don't know. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I can't help but think that the Army will do everything it can to fill its ranks without asking for a draft.
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Wed Nov-24-04 02:15 AM
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39. My advice...smoke up! |
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When I was in the military, we had guys getting discharged all the time for failing drug tests...
Who wants some drugged out stoner behind a machine gun??
Don't answer that...
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41. I've never tried any drugs before and am not about too, but thanks |
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Tue Nov-23-04 11:51 PM
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36. I hear this all the time |
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even from people who voted for Kerry, "It is God's will!" or "it was meant to be." If this is really true and there is a God, I hope God kicks shrubs butt!
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