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LiberalEconomist Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:02 PM
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These people are not conservatives, they are regressives
the current manifestation of the Republican Party is not conservative at all. Conservatives, as I understand, what to keep things are they are--the status quo. Progressives would like to move further. Liberalism, of which progressivism is a component, seek enlightenment. Today's GOP is about reverting back to "the old days" when women didn't have the vote, a black person was considered three-fifths of a human being, and "the only good injun is a dead injun." Hell, why don't they go back even more and ban the internal combustion engine.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:03 PM
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1. they are Utopians
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:04 PM
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2. LET'S CALL THEM REGRESSIVES FROM NOW ON
Perfect word. Let's use it when speaking to press, letters to editors, etc...
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:05 PM
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3. They absolutely want to turn back the clock
They're hell-bent to make us forget FDR and the 60s ...
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one_true_leroy Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:06 PM
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4. i like 'crypto-conservatives'
it make sit sound like it is... they dig up these dead, tired, retread ideas and pass them off as values and initiatives
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:08 PM
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5. If we call ourselves Progressives
then they truly are Regressives. I like it. And they still have to have "R"s next to their names.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:08 PM
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6. Yes, I like it !!!
I might even bring that one up at dinner tomorrow. Subtly of course. After pie. No better way to ruin thanksgiving than to talk politics!
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:08 PM
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7. REGRESSIVES! REGRESSIVES!
A lot of us have similarly arrived at this label, which I think is perfect.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:31 PM
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8. Yes, Regressives
Can we get everybody to agree on just ONE THING!!! Ooooh, I hope so.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:40 PM
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9. Sorry, it won't work.
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 03:40 PM by Goathead
The "regressives" to whom you refer, will not be able to figure out what that word means, they are too ignorant. I like it though.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 04:03 PM
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11. I would order that flag, except that the Enron logo isn't on it!
But it sure makes a statement, doesn't it?
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:55 PM
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10. Let's examine modern political positions from extreme lib to con
Anarchist -- Someone who believes we should be back in nature, that no government is the best government because government is a tool for the elites to oppress and repress. Egalitarian in its base, but completely unworkable in practice.

Libertarian -- Someone who believes that a small, limited government, empowered only for internal and external protection (crime, war, etc). People and business should be left to their own accords and have limited, if any, government regulations because government is a tool for the elites to oppress and repress.

Liberals -- Someone who believes that government should be limited in the aspects of personal freedom, but should be intertwined in business dealings. Liberals believe the government should stay out of personal affairs (abortion, drug war, gay marriage), but need to involve regulations pertaining to business (tarriffs, corporate tax codes, etc.)

Moderates/centrists -- People who believe that the status quo is acceptible. Change to it is good, so long as the change doesn't infringe on implied or enumerated rights.

Conservative -- someone who believes that the system is just fine and new ideas should be approached with extreme caution (Barry Goldwater). Libertarian in concept when dealing in business aspects, but, in private believe in a more centralized government with harsh punishments and limited redress.

Authoritarians -- someone who believes that the system, in its current state, allows for too much individual choices and thus harm to the state, and the public at large. Believe in militant stances on private issues and militant stances on business issues. Also believe in empowering the elite class more, as authoritarians tend to be the elites.

Totalitarians -- absolute power, absolute say, absolute decision-making without any input from anyone, a totalitarian believes in one man rule. Personal freedoms and business freedoms are curtailed and the most ruthless punishment is meeted out for the most minor of acts.


Now. . .which one describes Bushco?
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