More Guns = More Crime, plain and simple

[dpakman91]

http://www.heartheissues.com/crimeandguns.html

I dunno what the deal is with hawaii though

[Retired AF Dem]

1. How does guns=more crime

I can see more crimes being committed with guns.

[NVMojo]

2. it also supports mayhem so a police state could take over...

[w4rma]

7. Less guns allow the police state to take over without a fight.

More guns = the situation in Iraq they try that.

[LauraT28]

3. Legal Guns don't cause crime..

It's out social system that's causing crime in this country. If guns were Illegal, there would be lots of crime but citizens would not even have a chance.

[UNIXcock]

17. Truth spoken here

... either that or a lot of us would become criminals at the swipe of a pen stroke

[Cuban_Liberal]

4. I'm so tired of hearing that crap that I could VOMIT!

I used to be a cop, and the problem's not the guns; the problem is the criminals who use guns.

[leftyandproud]

6. but people aren't responsible...

it was a bad childhood...poverty....they have to eat...You really can't blame them....It is the guns...If they didn't have access to guns, they couldn't rob people!!

ok, I'm not a pure liberal and I don't believe that crap either.

[name not needed]

5. Guns don't rob banks

Criminals do.

[Deja Q]

8. More poverty also = more crime. Plain and simple.

Also notice how more yuppieland gated communities have security cameras outside. :crazy:

[Zynx]

9. Poverty is the most important cause of crime.

You can take away guns and lock up the criminals as much as you want, but with poverty there will always be crime.

[Dangerman]

10. Now that the Assault Weapons Ban is gone...

Anybody can use legally-brought AK-47s to rob banks a lot more often.

[Cuban_Liberal]

11. And if they couldn't use an AK-47, they wouldn't rob them?

It's the predator that's the problem, not his weapon of choice...

[dpakman91]

12. true

but is the higher gun rate correlation with the higher crime rates strictly a coincidence? if you compare poverty rate to crime rate, the correlation is not nearly as close.

[Cuban_Liberal]

16. I'll simply restate:

The problem is the predator, and not the weapon of choice. IOW, it is the behavior which is the primary problem. Addressing the weapon is rather like talking about the remoras who ride along with a great white shark.

[Jack_DeLeon]

14. AK-47s were never illegal...

[Zhade]

15. Untrue. The AWB had ZERO to do with AK-47s.

Unless, of course, you'd wanted one manufactured after 1994 with a bayonet lug or flash suppressor.

[slackmaster]

21. The "assault weapons" ban didn't stop sales of semiauto AK clones

Manufacturers filled market demand for them with "post-ban" versions lacking bayonet mounts and collapsible stocks.

Why do you think things are any different with the ban expired?

:shrug:

[Jack_DeLeon]

13. Guns are Evil....

they are the cursed spawn of satan and anyone who touches them then too becomes evil.

What we need is more holy water it will surely end the gun and crime problem.

:eyes:

Guns dont cause crimes.

Humans cause crimes.

Ban humans, its for the children.

[Massacure]

18. Look at Switzerland

Nearly all adult males are required to go through four months of military training at age 20. They are given a machine gun to store in their houses.

From ages 21-32 they spend three weeks a year to continue their training. From 33 to 42 they train for two weeks every few years. They remain in the army until age 50. Every once in a while they also get a few scattered days of target practice and equipment inspection.

It gets better. These people are given the ability to buy anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons as well.

Now on top of it, they have a lower crime rate than the U.S., Canada, Britain, Japan, and a lot of other countries.

They have to be doing something right.

[chicagiana]

19. Look at Canada ...

Canada is a nation of gunowner. More per capita than the US. Yet the violence level is MUCH lower.

Guns are NOT the problem. They're NOT a solution, but they definitely ARE NOT the problem.

[doc03]

20. Look at the red states more guns=less crime. If the people in the

blue states would get off of this gun thing we would have a Democrat President someday.