Doesn't Bush's DUI keep him from....

[Sannum]

Doesn't Bush's DUI keep him from entering Canada without special permission from the Government? I read this somewhere, but I can't seem to confirm it. Maybe one of our Legal Eagles can clarify.

[gordianot]

1. If they could ever find the records they could add drug possession.

[Blaze Diem]

2. It Should ...

No other American Citizen with a conviction, even a DUI can currently enter Canada.

[drunkdriver-in-chief]

3. Here's an article on the subject

http://www.canadianembassy.org/immigration/inadmissible-en.asp

Persons Who Are Inadmissible to Canada
Persons who have been convicted of a CRIMINAL OFFENCE in ANY COUNTRY may be INADMISSIBLE TO CANADA as a result of their criminal record. Even persons who do not require a Visa to enter Canada may still be refused permission to enter Canada if they are MEMBERS OF AN INADMISSIBLE CLASS.

INADMISSIBLE CLASSES:

Members of Inadmissible Classes include those who have been convicted of MINOR OFFENCES (including shoplifting, theft, assault, dangerous driving, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of illegal substances, etc.), or of INDICTABLE CRIMINAL OFFENCES (including assault with a deadly weapon, manslaughter, etc.). As well, those who have been convicted of DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED (DWI) are considered Members of an Inadmissible Class. Driving while under the influence of alcohol is regarded as an extremely serious offence in Canada.

(snip)

Those who have been convicted of an offence OUTSIDE CANADA, and have had 5 years elapse since the termination of the custodial portion (if any) of the sentence imposed (not the sentence served), may apply for a Minister's APPROVAL OF REHABILITATION. The Minister's Approval will permanently remove the inadmissibility caused by conviction.

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I wish democrats would make a fuss about bush's DUI. He's not only a convicted criminal, he's a drug criminal and we should call him that.

[billyoc]

4. Wow! Thank you for posting that,

I didn't know you could apply for a "Minister's APPROVAL OF REHABILITATION", I'm going to look into this myself.

[Karenina]

5. But mosty

he and his whole *fam damily are FINANCIAL CRIMINALS. DO note the date.

Bush Family Value$

The Bush clan's family business

by Stephen Pizzo
September/October 1992

http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/bushboys.html

In 1991, President Bush bristled at a flurry of news accounts that questioned the business ethics of three of his sons. "The media ought to be ashamed of itself for what they're doing," Bush complained. "They have a right to make a living, and their relationships are appropriate," added a White House spokeswoman in June 1992.

Since George Bush has raised "family values" as a campaign issue repeatedly, though, it seems only fair to take a look at his own family. A computer search showed that over the past five years stories have periodically surfaced chronicling the individual business antics of the president's sons -- each riding comfortably through life in the slipstream of his father's growing power and influence.

Although a handful of good reporters for the New York Times, LA Times, Village Voice, and Wall Street Journal have diligently been digging through business records for months, something has been missing: an overview that "connects the dots" in the myriad deals that have been examined, making it clear that cashing in on influence has become a pattern of behavior extending through the first family.

Instead of criticizing reporters, the president might more wisely begin listening to those in government who have watched his sons with mounting worry. A year ago, I sat across a desk from a Secret Service agent who had been assigned to Bush-family security. I rattled off the names of a half-dozen questionable characters who had found their way into business deals with the Bush boys. How had these characters been allowed to get even close to the president's sons?

The agent slumped back in his chair and sighed. "We warn them," he said in a whisper. "But that's all we can do. We can't stop these kids from associating with someone they want to be with. All we can do after warning them is to sweep these guys with metal detectors when they come around."

What follows is a sourcebook of concerns about the president's three sons...

[pnorman]

6. It would probably come under "Diplomatic Immunity",

so it wouldn't be a "problem" for Dubya. But THANKS for pointing that out. I'm planning on RUNNING with that, and suggest all here to make use of it in future agitprop (placards etc).

pnorman

[dflprincess]

8. Does diplomatic immunity apply to crimes committed

before one had that immunity? He wasn't president when he got his DWI.

[pnorman]

9. You're probably right on that,

but there's no doubt he'll enter Canada under "special Head of State rules". But we've got the makings for some very effective placards, banners, balloons, buttons, and such. All the more so, given the obsession of his "base", with "criminals coming across the borders".

Maybe some civic-minded group will try to do to Bush in Canada, what was done to Pinochet in England.

pnorman

[Lisa]

7. apparently he got special dispensation ...

that's good until 2005. Funny, because evidently our government wasn't pulling for him to get another term, or they'd have said 2009!

And if the info I'm working on is correct -- it's not that ministerial thing mentioned earlier, because of the expiry date! I guess they still don't trust him!


More on the subject:

"George W. Bush, President of the USA legally could not cross the border into Canada due to his DUI conviction until he was granted a special dispensation from the Canadian Government which allowed him to visit. Fortunately, the Candian Governement processed the documentation allowing Mr. Bush unlimited access to Canada until 2005."

http://gocanada.about.com/cs/bordercrossing/a/what_stops_you.htm



Otherwise, this would be the procedure -- and I somehow doubt that Colin Powell would write that character reference for him, hmm?

“He is going to have to go through what’s called the rehabilitation process. The rehab takes a while and it would be somewhat demeaning for a president of the United States. He would have to go through a series of steps, including getting letters from friends saying he has cleaned up his act. If he wanted to come to Canada before completing the lengthy rehab process, he would need the permission of a senior immigration official,” immigration lawyer Colin R. Singer tells ABCNEWS."

"According to a “rehab check list” compiled by the Canadian law firm of Larson, Bryson & Boulton, the Canadian government considers several factors when determining whether a person wanting entry to Canada has truly rehabilitated themselves from their criminal offense and deserves entry, including: acceptance of responsibility for the offense; evidence of remorse; evidence of a change in lifestyle; and, evidence of stability in employment and family life."

http://www.drunkdrivingdefense.com/consequences/bush-dui.htm

I don't think he meets most of the requirements on that checklist!

[Auntie Bush]

10. Where have you been?

Haven't you noticed...bush can do anything e wants! He's the world's most powerful leader! He can even start WARS whenever he wants and with whomever he wants.