What an idiot : local RW wacko calls Dylan's "Masters of War" hate radio!

[jefferson_dem]

Uber Bush apologist Wooten refers to the #1 protest song in history as "hate."

• Appalling, but a WRFG disk jockey on Friday night last, presumably at the behest of a listener, dedicated a 1965 anti-war screed by Bob Dylan to George W. Bush that contains these lyrics: "And I hope that you die/And your death'll come soon/I will follow your casket/In the pale afternoon/And I'll watch while you're lowered/Down to your deathbed/And I'll stand o'er your grave/'Til I'm sure that you're dead." Not a dime of public money should go to fund hate.

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/wooten/2004/112604.html


LOL silly, yes. But there's really nothing new here. "Protest music" with a hard edge has ALWAYS riled up those on the Reich Wing. Suffer bitches - you'll never even understand!

[skooooo]

1. song is from 1963.....

[BlueManDude]

2. To quote Mr. Dylan, Mr. Wooten is just spewing more "Idiot Wind"

and coincidently I happen to be listening to this tune as I sit here.

[jefferson_dem]

4. Idiot Wind is ruthless!

I have to be in a special state of mind to handle the degree of raw vitriol that it pushes. The "howling beast" rocks me every time.

By the way, it's interesting that he only played that one live as he was in the midst of nasty marital separations - 1976 and 1992.

Fits for this Wooten punk as well!

[skooooo]

6. Dylan had (has?) a certain nastiness about him..

I suspect he's mellowed with age, but he wrote some very, very scathing songs.

[annabanana]

7. Dylan had it right..........................n/t

(still angry)

[BlueManDude]

11. ever listen to his "born again" stuff?

dylan's version and vision of christianity was very judgmental.

[skooooo]

12. Dylan has always been judgemental...

...it just took a different outlet when he went religious. There's always been the angry minister in Dylan, from the very beginning. I guess "Blowing in the Wind" is pretty mellow by comparison. Angry, judgemental songs:

Postivitely 4th Street
You Go Your Way, I'll go Mine
Idiot Wind
Masters of War
Lonesome Death of Hattie Carrol

etc. etc.

[jefferson_dem]

13. That "gospel" period is something else. Judgmental, raw, brutal.

Some of Dylan's most genuinely "soulful" stuff was churned out in the wake of his religious conversion. Ironic how he's even a more PURE version of THEM (those who criticize his posture).

Dylan was known to belt out some serious "fire and brimstone" at his concerts during 1979, as much of his audience was not in the mood to hear preaching. :grr:

Check this out from Tempe, 11-26-79.

Dylan: "Hmm. What a rude bunch tonight, huh? You all know how to be real rude. You know about the spirit of the anti-Christ? Does anybody here know about that? Well, it's clear the anti-Christ is loose right now, let me give you an example. You know, I got a place out, ah, somebody stopped by my house and gave me this, uh, tape cassette. Some of these kind of people, you know, there's many false deceivers running around these days. There's only one gospel. The Bible says anybody who preaches anything other than that one gospel, let him be accursed. ("Rock-n-roll!") Anyway, you know, this fellow stopped by my house one time and wanted to, so called, "turn me on" to a . . . well I'm not gonna mention his name, he's a certain guru. I don't want to mention his name right now, but ah, he, he has a place out there, near LA ("Malibu!") And ah, he stopped by and he gave me this taped cassette to show me -- "ROCK-N-ROLL!" --

You wanna rock-n-roll you can go down and rock-n-roll. You can go see Kiss and you can rock-n-roll all your way down to the pit. Anyway -- APPLAUSE -- let me give you an example here. I'm gonna give you a real good example, I took a look, I dropped this tape cassette off with a friend of mine. (HECKLING AND OTHERS TRYING TO SHOUT THE HECKLER DOWN)

Turn the lights on in here. I want to see these people. Turn some lights on. Give them some light. Let them in the light. APPLAUSE

So anyway, this certain guru, you wanna hear about this guru? So anyhow, "ROCK-N-ROLL!" "SHUT UP!"

alright, so this guru, he made a film of himself. He had one of these big conventions. He does have a convention I think every so often like once a month, he'll go to a big city. "PRAISE THE LORD WITH PUKE!" "SHUT THAT GUY UP!" APPLAUSE

Now, so, I took a look at this tape and sure enough he was having himself a big convention. He had, must have had five thousand to ten thousand people there. Eight thousand people. And what he was doing on the stage was, he was sitting on there with a lot of flowers and things. And he sure did look pretty though. He'd sit up there, you know like kind of like on a throne and you'd listen to him talk on the tape. And on the tape, he said, you know, what's life all about is life is to have fun. APPLAUSE He said, "I'm gonna show you now how you all can have fun."

And he had a big fire extinguisher there and he put colored water in this fire extinguisher, and he would spray it out on the people. And they all laughed and just had a good time. They took their clothes off. They were overjoyed to be sprayed by this man. BOOOO! And a little while after that, he started talking about his philosophy. And he said that he was god -- he did say that. He said that god's inside of him and he is god. And, you know, that those people could just think of themselves as God. I want to tell you this because there's many of these people walking around. They might not come right out and say they're god, but they're just waiting for the opportunity too. And there is only one God. And let me hear you say who that god is? -- CONFUSED SHOUTS

Their god, he makes promises that he doesn't keep. There's only two kinds of people like the preacher says -- only two kinds of people. Color don't separate them, neither does their clothes -- ROCK-N-ROLL! --

You still want to rock-n-roll? I'll tell you what the two kinds of people are. Don't matter how much money you got, there's only two kinds of people: There are saved people and there's lost people. APPLAUSE Yeah. Now remember that I told you that. You may never see me again. I may not be through here again, you may not see me, sometime down the line you'll remember you heard it here. That Jesus is lord. APPLAUSE And every knee shall bow to him.

http://www.angelfire.com/rant/gospelproject/autumn/26nov79.html

[BlueManDude]

9. I was listening to the live "Hard Rain" version n/t

[jefferson_dem]

3. Here's another article. Still rockin' their world, after all these years.

Bob Dylan's Masters of War is a hard-hitting, anti-war song produced more than 20 years before any current Boulder High School student was born.

More than 40 years after its release, the song has been resurrected at Boulder High with huge and confusing repercussions that prompted Secret Service agents to pay the campus a visit Thursday.

Some students and parents apparently let the Secret Service and talk-radio stations know they were unhappy with the plan of a trio of students to do a poetry reading of the song, accompanied by background music, according to Ron Cabrera, the school's principal.

Rumors were rampant that during an audition and rehearsal for today's talent show, the students changed Dylan's powerful last verse at the end of the song to say that they hoped that President Bush was going to die.

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http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3323602,00.html

[Warpy]

5. Well, it's a pretty angry song

and it does wish death on those masters of war.

However, it's a far cry from right wing hate radio, which wishes death upon anyone not in the pubbie club, no matter how ethical and decent they may be.

Right wing radio is hate radio. Dylan's song was the frustration of an angry young man who thought he could kill injustice.

[skooooo]

10. Yeah..if he tried to post the lyrics on DU..

..it would be locked and removed.

[Minstrel Boy]

8. I wonder what he thinks of "Knocked Out Loaded"?

:shrug:

A propos of Bob, a friend of mine had a chance encounter with Harry Belafonte last week. Belafonte cornered him for 20 minutes after he learned he'd read Chronicles Vol 1, because he wanted to know what Bob had written about him. (He told my friend he'd ordered the book, but it hadn't arrived yet.)