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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:04 AM Original message |
How do you feel when a woman says, "I'm not a feminist" |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think they are misinformed |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. It's a Rovian Stepford Wives line designed to piss us off. |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
2. "Feminists hate men" |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. That one bothers me as well |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. You said it! |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
26. "This is what a Feminist Looks Like!" |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
175. I loves me some Ashely Judd. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. Didn't you know that 'Feminist' = 'Lesbian'??? |
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Coventina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Bingo. That's how I was raised. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
217. Hmmm, so as I lesbian |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. How can we reclaim the word? Get a mic bigger than Rush Limbaugh's. |
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George_S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
88. Bud does anyone really think Coulter is dominated by men? |
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George_S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #88 |
102. Comstock today (hey, why not? it worked before) |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
5. I know how angry and disappointed I feel when women |
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sariku (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
6. It drives me nuts |
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LisaLynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
7. Drives me nuts, too. |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
9. Tell her to take her pants off and get a decent crinoline; |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. good response |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I think she also should surrender |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yes I thought about the vote ...but until Merika starts counting |
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pagerbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
12. The same way I feel when I meet a Log Cabin Republican |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
15. i think that they should get back in the kitchen, of course! |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
16. They've been taught that all feminists are man-hating dykes. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
72. That's what I've found, too |
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IHeart1993 (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
18. I attended a women's college as an undergraduate |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Did the sexism you percieved |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
19. dumb shit, bought into the koolaide |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
20. I Heard a Woman Who I Respect Greatly Say, |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. And where would she be now in her life without it? |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Did she elaborate on what she meant by that statement? |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. They must be asked to define Feminist. Proceed from there. |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. That's an excellent way to begin |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
76. Sorry, I've been paying attention to other portions of this thread. |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
25. I think that they do not know what feminism is |
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Tuddie (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
27. Reclaim the word: Use it like you mean it. n/t |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
28. The underlying attitude towards women's rights is more important, I think |
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LisaLynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
74. I'm reading Backlash, too! |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
169. sorta wish I had kept my copy |
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Jeff in Cincinnati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
29. It means she wants to go fetch me a beer right now, gol dang it! |
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RPM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
30. when she says that, I tell her to go make me a meal |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
31. i just assume that they are stupid, and it's usually true |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Supporting equal pay and equal opportunity... |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Hi, Peter! |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Hi proles |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:21 AM Response to Reply #51 |
214. i used to live across the street from the Women's museum |
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skippysmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
32. I hate when women say that |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Thanks for all of your responses |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
34. I don't like the word "feminist" |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Can you please explain the reasons why? |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
77. Labels in general are not my thing - |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
104. I will definitely agree with you |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 06:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
142. This is my stance on this issue as well... |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #142 |
172. many versions, one movement: civil rights. |
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StatGirl (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
37. "I'll be a post-feminist in the post-patriarchy" |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. AAR is a good start, but we need some one on the boob tube too. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Who would you suggest? I simply don't want to see anyone from |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. How so? |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
40. It drives me nuts when I hear women say that |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
43. I'M NOT A FEMINIST!!! |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. No one is denigrating your choice. It is the choice that |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. But it is denegrated with every "Go back to the kitchen" comment nt |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I don't see it that way. |
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cattleman22 (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
165. I disagree with you |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:30 PM Response to Reply #165 |
178. I don't think so. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:45 PM Response to Reply #178 |
184. Its OK to benefit from the contributions of others |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #184 |
187. I suppose you'll be completely understanding if these |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #187 |
194. Just because I say I'm not a feminist doesn't mean I think womens rights |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. Actually, you do have to be a feminist to support women's rights |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #196 |
198. I just don't see it that way |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #198 |
200. Most dictionaries do |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #200 |
203. The word is not unpleasant, Its the mindset of many of the people who |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:55 AM Response to Reply #203 |
211. do you refuse to call yourself a Democrat or Liberal... |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #211 |
227. No I don't, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #227 |
232. Deleted message |
sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #227 |
244. the people that "made fun of you" in this thread... |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:13 PM Response to Reply #244 |
249. They weren't making fun as liberals, they weren't liberal jokes |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:22 PM Response to Reply #249 |
251. yes, they were "liberal jokes" |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #251 |
254. Thats just doesn't make sense |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #254 |
259. just to be clear... |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #196 |
208. actually you CAN believe in Christ without being a Christian |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #208 |
219. I think you knew what I meant |
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cattleman22 (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 09:13 AM Response to Reply #196 |
223. the word "Feminist" means different things to different people |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 06:59 PM Response to Reply #223 |
237. no it doesn't. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. You need to work on your OWN self worth. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. You make my point perfectly, Its an excuse that I stay home not a choice |
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baba (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
136. Your assumptions |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #136 |
151. You are all around wrong about my assumptions |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:43 PM Response to Reply #151 |
182. this is a red herring. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:54 PM Response to Reply #182 |
188. I haven't bought into anything from the right wing |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:06 PM Response to Reply #188 |
192. it doesn't matter what you call yourself, because you are a feminist |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #192 |
201. Your missing what I said |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:59 AM Response to Reply #201 |
212. apples and oranges. You have to put on the uniform to be a soldier |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #212 |
226. No I'm not, Yes you are, No I'm not, Yes you are, No I'm Not, Yes you are |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #226 |
233. honeychild, if your fanny got trucked over to an islamic fundie |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #233 |
250. Name calling doesn't get you anywhere, I'm neither spoiled or |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:24 PM Response to Reply #250 |
252. Yes, you can be feminist and pro-life. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #252 |
255. So do you think all women are feminists? |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #255 |
260. first of all... |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #226 |
246. it doesn't matter if your definition is different (i don't think it is) |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #246 |
253. I've been trying to give a reason to the people that just don't understand |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:41 PM Response to Reply #253 |
256. yes, you can be pro-life and a feminist (more inside) |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #188 |
193. Logic is always helpful |
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cattleman22 (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #78 |
166. I agree n/t |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
177. that was kind of nasty |
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KnowerOfLogic (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 02:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
135. "Go back to the kitchen" implies pre-feminist *no choice.* |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. WE DO!!! |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. what feminist doesn't embrace the value of SAHM's? |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Although I respect these women greatly, Hillary Clinton and Teresa Kerry |
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Logansquare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Please stop and think about what was really said here |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. I do not think working mothers are bad parents, and I think your |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. I agree that the media portrays SAHM badly |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #52 |
149. Well, I've got to tell you |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Glad you came out from lurkdom to respond |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. No one could make me feel poorly for my choice, they don't have that |
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Kitka (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. Feminism doesn’t require us to check our opinions at the door |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Those comments have been made in this thread nt |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. You know |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Heres a few of the jokes |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #83 |
190. no "jokes" in the opposite direction? |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #190 |
197. But these jokes aren't coming from the feminists, Thats my point |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #197 |
234. oh, you mean the jokes coming from feminists who swear they |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:02 PM Response to Reply #234 |
238. Are you saying... |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #238 |
239. absolutely. |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #239 |
241. That's not my definition, for what it's worth |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #234 |
257. Well since your definition of feminist is every woman than I must be one |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #257 |
261. actually, Ann Coulter's not a feminist... |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
106. point them out please? |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Check my post above |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. misinterpret sarcasm much? |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Of course I know they weren't serious, you miss the point |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. "The jokes don't go both ways." |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Not by feminists about feminists |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #118 |
132. so SAHMs are making jokes about their group? |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #132 |
152. Well I consider myself part of the SAHM group. nt |
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Kitka (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #116 |
153. That's bullshit. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 01:35 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. Prove it! |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:48 PM Response to Reply #156 |
247. Hey cags |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
90. I'm not upset with your choice to stay at home |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. I never concluded that, I am explaining why some women are turned off by |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. You certainly given me food for thought |
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seaj11 (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. I realize I just came in on this discussion... |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. And several have made fun and called me basically a nanny and that I don't |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. You have an amazingly large chip on your shoulder |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. No chip, But aren't the comments in this thread directed in general to |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. Maybe you need to distinguish between feminists and feminism |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. I agree 100% |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #115 |
189. some republicans give republicans a bad name |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #101 |
179. I don't think she has at all |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:41 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. Thank you |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #181 |
207. no probs |
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Kitka (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #94 |
154. Well, you’re making that assumption based on |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #154 |
159. I must have hit a nerve |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:02 AM Response to Reply #159 |
213. Again, apples and oranges. In order to be an inventor or soldier... |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:07 PM Response to Reply #213 |
240. but she is doing the actions...she's (gasp) EDUCATED! |
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diplomats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
130. Congratulations, Cags |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 08:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
131. Choices are good, but the Phyllis Schlaflys of the world ... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
148. I hate to break it to you |
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Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
243. I'm a god-damn-shiftless poet, a stay-at-home-except-when-I |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
44. I used to hear this from teen girls |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
49. My first thought? "What an idiot." |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
56. Yes, my stepdaughter said that to me just last week. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Should go to the library and make her some copies of some of |
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Logansquare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
59. I feel like saying "Oh, no. I would call you an opportunist" |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
60. The word "feminist" came out of the 60's & 70's. Interpretation is wrong. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. My own mother... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
64. My grandmother used to say that until I explained that |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. *nodding in acknowledgement of statement" |
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KenCarson (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:26 PM Original message |
it reminds me of a "hole" song |
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liontamer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
183. me too |
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bush_is_wacko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
66. I have been |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Could you please cite some examples |
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L0cke (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
67. I don't think anything, from just that one sentence. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
79. Funny, I meet a lot more women who claim to be feminists |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Amazing the party of "family values" |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. A lot of them don't care about abortion but believe in equal pay |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
80. In many contexts I do say that I'm not a feminist (and mean it) |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
186. sounds like you care too much what other people think |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #186 |
199. No. Actually, it sounds like I care about clarity and precision. n/t |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #199 |
235. ah, the privilege to split hairs, given to us by our feminist fore-mothers |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 08:03 PM Response to Reply #235 |
248. No. To advocate clarity and precision is not to advocate hairsplitting. |
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Plaid Adder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
81. "I don't want the label, I just want all the benefits." |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. fighting for the rights - struggling for the rights |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Just out of curiosity... |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Old enough |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. What scares you about the label? |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I am not ashamed and I am not scared |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #81 |
110. No, "I am not a feminist" does not translate to "I don't want the label" |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Great explanation for why the labels are not very important |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
180. bullshit |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
84. My fiancee hates the word |
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LakeCohoon (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
86. Why, I hadn’t given it much thought. |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Judging from your post |
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seaj11 (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. There's no need to insult anyone. nt |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:22 AM Response to Reply #99 |
143. Aw, c'mon. That was funny! |
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LakeCohoon (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #95 |
146. You are overanalyzing |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #146 |
150. If you believe feminism |
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LakeCohoon (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #150 |
161. Knocking The Chip |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #161 |
164. I've cashed in my chips |
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LakeCohoon (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #164 |
224. Agony = No confidence |
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Technowitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
98. It's the EXACT SAME THING as people ashamed to admit they're Liberals |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Yep, it's been branded as a negative thing to be! |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. So do we have PR people who could assist with |
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m berst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
107. it reminds me of "reverse racism" |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Wow! |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 06:13 PM Response to Reply #107 |
125. good comments??? have you written a 'stand-alone' essay about this |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
108. like she's one of the women who give the rest of us a bad name. |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
120. my female friend calls herself a womanist, |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:39 AM Response to Reply #120 |
140. Sojourner Truth - "Ain't I a woman?" |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:42 AM Response to Reply #140 |
141. There is strength in the feminine qualities, in knowing |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #140 |
147. To me, feminism is not about stereotyping women |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #147 |
167. can personality traits be learned or guided? |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #167 |
174. Strength and assertiveness are admirable qualities |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
121. I was exposed to a lot of Rush Limbaugh. |
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u4ic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
122. Too many associate |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
123. Dunno. Never met one. |
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MsAnthropy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
124. It was the extremist fringe lunies that killed it for me |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. You're saying that |
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MsAnthropy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:26 AM Response to Reply #126 |
145. The purpose of any movement is to eventually make it itself irrelevant |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
127. Well...personally I am such a bitch |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 07:07 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. It was seeing Phyllis Schlafly this morning on CSPAN |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. That woman has been setting me off for years |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:22 AM Response to Reply #129 |
144. Here's a thought: Let's require .... |
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Mallifica (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-04 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
133. I think she's an idiot |
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KnowerOfLogic (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
134. I say, "Fine, then give up all the rights *feminists* earned." |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
137. Rush was the main demonizer, as I recall |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:27 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. Rush is a woman-hater, as are all these |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
138. What, did you have a sex change like Adams Apple Coulter? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:24 AM Response to Reply #138 |
215. HEY! No trans bashing! n/t |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 02:03 AM Response to Reply #215 |
221. Just Coulter bashing |
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Robin Hood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
155. Surely fearing something! |
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cyn2 (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
157. It makes me feel sad.... |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. What's your defintion of "Real Power"? |
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Doohickie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
158. A feminist, in my experience, is a person whose primary |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
162. That she needs therapy |
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cattleman22 (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
163. Some on the fringe tainted the word and it needs to be reclaimed. |
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put out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #163 |
168. If you are referring to some nameless "officer" in the NOW |
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cattleman22 (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 09:10 AM Response to Reply #168 |
222. Funny how you blame me and not the extremists |
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efhmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
170. Well, here is what I think about it: |
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Poor Richard Lex (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
171. compare Susan B. Anthony |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
173. It's the same as with the right-wing agenda to demonize every aspect |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
176. some women don't like it because they don't feel |
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liontamer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
185. it infuriates me to no end |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:06 PM Response to Reply #185 |
191. I hung out on the MS boards for a while |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #191 |
206. Am I a feminist? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:44 AM Response to Reply #206 |
218. you are absolutely a feminist |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #185 |
225. i like sparklies and i really love the pink and high heels |
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CarbonDate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
195. As a military male, I self-identify as a feminist.... |
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Chomp (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
202. Depends on the size of her tits nt |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
204. I am not sure I am a feminist |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:59 AM Response to Reply #204 |
220. I am pro straight women's rights. |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #220 |
231. I think we are saying ther same thing |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #220 |
236. isn't that something? |
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Lizzie Borden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
205. My auomatic response is.. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-04 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
209. I feel like.. |
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put out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #209 |
210. We are all trying harder. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #210 |
229. People HAVE tried on this thread |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
216. That she is a coward |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
228. Feminist? You mean the lesbians who hate men and kill babies? |
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breadandwine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
230. We must march against Fox and the rigged election. |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-04 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
242. I say good, now get naked and get your ass on the bed. |
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245. I feel that they are ignorant |
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258. I feel betrayed... |
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