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romantico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:40 AM
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Oh My God! I agree with Bill O'Reilly!
Seems like I agree with O'Reilly when he sticks to non political stories. The Petersen case. The OJ case.etc. Heres his take on Dan Rather. WHat do you all make of it?

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/257225p-220135c.html
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:45 AM
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1. You Believe a Loofah Is a Fallafel? n/t
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:46 AM
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2. Even though a broken clock might be right twice a day.
In this case O'lielly is only saying this to flip it around on "left wing bomb throwers" who accuse him of being a partisan bitch. His favorite pastime. Besides collecting vibrators is claim how much people go after him unfairly.
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Penguin31 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:51 AM
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8. O'Reilly isn't the broken clock,Faux News is...Bill's just the cuckoo (nt)
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:52 AM
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9. So true..so true
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Penguin31 Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:47 AM
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3. I can't believe that *HE* said *THIS*...
But holding a political point of view is the right of every American, and it does not entitle people to practice character assassination or deny the presumption of innocence. Dan Rather was slimed. It was disgraceful.

Just to clarify...this was Bill O'Reilly saying THAT
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:48 AM
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6. Exactly. n/t
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:48 AM
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4. a broken clock is right twice a day..with the exception of Bush
and evil beyond evil knows no time !
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:48 AM
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5. I believe O'Reilly's defense of Rather was a clever way to reflect
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 11:51 AM by glarius
innocense on himself....He has been badly hurt by the revelations of his "phone sexcapades" and I think he is hoping that the argument he is making in defense of Rather (and the Bush family et al) will lead people to the conclusion that...hey...we can't believe any of this stuff, including what has leaked out about O'Reilly....IMO
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:48 AM
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7. Don't the freepers hate O'Reilly
I bet they're in a hissy fit over this article
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:55 AM
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10. My guess is that O'Reilly sees himself as a stealth warrior for Bush...
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 12:31 PM by The Night Owl
O'Reilly picks a few unimportant issues to take a moderate or liberal stance on so he can gain credibility with the moderates. Once he gains credibility with as many moderates as possible, he trys to convince them to vote Republican. For instance, consider O'Reilly's take on this last presidential election. Sure, O'Reilly took a few stands against Bush, but where did he come down in the end? He came down in favor of Bush. Basically, O'Reilly's goal was to convince those who had doubts about Bush that Bush was the lesser of two evils.

In other words, O'Reilly frequently wades out to the center of the political spectrum so he can snatch moderates and bring them to the right.

In general, Fox News operates in the same deceptive manner as O'Reilly. For instance, when writing a headline, Fox will frequently couch an opinion or an unproven allegation in a question. That way, they can sling mud around without seeming biased to their dullard viewers, many of whom are moderates. A Fox News headline might go something like-- The people want to know: Did John Kerry shoot an unarmed Vietnamese child? By couching opinion or unproven allegations in questions, Fox achieves two objectives... They get to sling mud while hiding their agenda from idiots. Of course, Fox has many other methods of hiding its bias and agenda from their dimwitted viewers.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:57 AM
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12. Excellent analysis
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RaleighNCDem Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:55 AM
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11. This is not a noble defense of Dan Rather.
It is a way for him to justify his far right bias. Dan Rather is nowhere near as partisan as O'Reilly is.
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ydya Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:31 PM
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15. I agree. Plus, where was this "nobility" before the election. And isnt
it curious that after he gets caught with his pants down he suddenly seems so reasonable. See also post #5 above which shares this view.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:17 PM
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13. He's afraid of the neocons, too.
Bill O'Reilly may be afraid that even he is not conservative enough to suit the neocon nutsos in power. Look how they've gone after Arlen Specter and other so-called moderate Republicans. Plus O'Reilly's been damaged by the phone sex scandal, which must not make him too appealing to those fundamentalist Fox viewers.

Still, it is an encouraging sign that we're now seeing some GOP stalwarts beginning to realize that the movement they've supported has gone too far. It might even be a good idea to write O'Reilly a thank you, since he's bound to be deluged by hate mail from the neocons. As my grandmother used to say, "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Some former right-wingers have come full circle to become vocal critics of Bush and the neocons. Just look at Paul Craig Roberts, an ex-Reagan Treasury official who has written a brilliant editorial: What Became of Conservatives?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts81.html
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:30 PM
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14. Wow!
That needs to be posted more prominently on DU. There are real conservatives still out there that we need to reach out to and form a opposition coalition. PC Roberts is one such conservate.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:35 PM
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16. What a shock,trying to appease everyone until those tapes are memory
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 12:35 PM by OneTwentyoNine
Lets see,if O'Reilly would have been a Dem supporting TV mouthpiece with millions of listeners,when knowledge of those tapes came out Republicans(of course through operatives)would have given that woman MILLIONS upon MILLIONS to total DESTROY his career and drive him off of TV forever by getting the tapes and airing them over and over and over...

Not us though,move along nothing to see or HEAR. We just let it pass and all of that sexual,harassing phone talk will be a forgotten memory in a few short months. Then O'Reilly can put his usual pimping for Republicans back in high gear.
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:12 PM
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17. Do Not Believe O'Reilly !

O'Reilly lies all the time about things to make himself look moderate, it's all part of his con game, don't believe any of it.

The freepers do not hate O'Reilly, a few of them have hammered him but for all the wrong reasons. Most of the freepers love O'Reilly, they only hammer on him when he says something that is not conservative enough for their far right Nazi positions.

Believe this, I have watched O'Reily for over 3 years, I started the web site on 8-26-01 and I have found that if his lips are moving he is either spinning or flat out lying.

You watch, a month from now some guest will call him a conservative. Then he will say but I defended Dan Rather, it is all part of his con game to use that to argue that he is not a biased Republican.

O'Reilly is getting so much heat for being a biased Republican that he is taking some moderate positions etc. so he can use that to argue that he is not a Republican.

Do not believe any of it for a second.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:57 PM
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18. He has to put out stuff like this every once in a while
to bolster his assertion that he is "fair and balanced" and an independent.

Neither of which is true.

He's sticking up for Dan because it doesn't make a damn bit of difference at this point whether he does or not.

I'll believe him when he concedes that in general, CBS pro-corporate, pro-establishment news is closer to fair and balanced than Fox pro-corporate & GOP propaganda Channel.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:59 PM
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20. Exactly
O'Reilly frequently takes tactical positions that are counter to the Bush administration, but those positions are never deal breakers as far as O'Reilly's support of Bush goes.
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:59 PM
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19. Looks like he got religion after the sexual harrassment case.
And now he's worried someone is going to be able to do it to him one day.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder
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