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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:33 PM
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LIGHTBULB time---- Bush's New Yacht
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 01:40 PM by Florida_Geek
On this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1396980
it talks about the $2 million for a Presidential Yacht.

Last week there were a couple threads on here about the strange construction the Navy was doing on the waterfront in DC. I believe the piece was from the WP.

Money for a Yacht and Navy, IMHO, building a home port for the yacht for King Bush.

BBV: Both items have been in the works well before the election. IMHO, Bush Knew in advance he was going to "win" and couldn't wait for his new playtoys.

Wonder how many other playtoys, Bush ordered before the election.

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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:39 PM
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1. Seems like a very good topic
to be discussed with the American people...

While we're in debt....

While the dollar's falling...

Seems like perhaps some Dem Party Genius might want to make this an issue?
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:41 PM
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2. how will the yacht be protected from tourists and terrorists? bush said
a submarine could take Clinton's new library out and it's not out floating in the ocean. . .


http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1358966,00.html

Bush appeared distracted, and glanced repeatedly at his watch. When he stopped to gaze at the river, where secret service agents were stationed in boats, the guide said: "Usually, you might see some bass fishermen out there." Bush replied: "A submarine could take this place out."

Was the president warning of an al-Qaida submarine, sneaking undetected up the Mississippi, through the locks and dams of the Arkansas river, surfacing under the bridge to the 21st century to dispatch the Clinton library? Is that where Osama bin Laden is hiding?

Or was this a wishful paranoid fantasy of ubiquitous terrorism destroying Clinton's legacy with one blow? Or a projection of menace and messianism, with only Bush grasping the true danger, standing between submerged threat and civilisation? Perhaps it was simply his way of saying he wouldn't build his library near water.

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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:47 PM
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4. Maybe that why so much construction
When Captain Bush takes the helm of his yacht, there will be 15 coast guard boats there to protect him.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:58 PM
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7. THAT"S why he's got submarines on his mind....paranoia!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:47 PM
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3. Good point.
And should the Navy be required to work on leisure-type projects for his play toys?

I've also been wondering why he wants a yacht, considering he's so cowardly outside his protective environment. Whenever he goes out on the yacht, will he demand a huge armed band of protection (outside the customary secret service) at taxpayers' expense?
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:48 PM
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5. Somewhere in the past
I read that Bush lived in a Marina before he was gov. of Texas. Maybe he wants back on the water. A couple beers and a nice drive on the water.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:35 PM
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14. that yacht will have to have on-land, underwater and air surveillance
as well as cyber-security protection measures.

Bush whimsy will monopolize and distract our precious security assets.
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Danocrat Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:49 PM
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6. I'm hoping
that he feels he needs the yacht for a quick get-away in January.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:02 PM
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8. How long until he starts spending humanitarian funds on palaces? n/t
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:28 PM
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13. It worked for Sadam right
:(
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:52 PM
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15. exactly! bush* doing his best saddam imitation!
both lying, stealing, murdering little dictators! :grr:
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:09 PM
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9. Good theory, but...
My money is still on the Navy project in DC being a missile defense battery.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:26 PM
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12. WE both could be right
Oh, while DHS is building this Navy Missile defense battery, lets put a secure slip in for the Presidential Yacht the taxpayers will not be upset over this.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:12 PM
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10. Finally found some info on yacht!
Since this all came out, I have been trying to figure out what this was all about. I know that they had a Presidential Yacht but sold it. Apparently this 2million was to buy it back. Here is an interesting article about it

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/201355_pot27.html

Looks like their money won't be going anywhere...
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:15 PM
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11. Does Bush know the Queens uncle was blown up on a yacht by
terrorist? My mind is full of such un-needed info. That is what happens when your old. Other Presidents always had yacht by the way.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:59 PM
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16. I am Elmer J. Fudd.
I own a mansion and a yacht.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:03 PM
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17. Fuddy you forgot your Cowboy Ranch in Tx
:evilgrin:
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:38 PM
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18. This isn't just any yacht people, it's a legit purchase
There was a tidbit about this in my local paper a few days ago. The "yacht" is the USS Sequoia, and it's an important piece of history that by all rights should belong to the National Park Service, not the current private group that rents it out for private cruises and parties.

FDR, Eisenhower, and Churchill planned D-Day on the Sequoia. JFK celebrated his last birthday party on the Sequoia. Queen Elizibeth once "borrowed" it while visiting the States. Truman decided to nuke Hiroshima while in his office on the Sequoia. Nixon and Breznev negotiated the first US-USSR nuclear arms control treaty on its deck. It was used by every president from the 1920's to the 1970's, and has been visited by hundreds of foreign leaders and dignitaries, national icons, and historic figures.

I have a great deal of respect for President Carter, but IMHO selling off the Sequoia to a private investor was one of his bigger mistakes. The ship is as much a piece of American history as the U.S.S. Constitution or even the White House, and it should be preserved by the Navy or the Park Service as a National Historic Place. The ship is a part of American history and should belong to the American people.

As it is, the ship now belongs to a private group that will only allow it to be visited by those willing to pony up ten grand for a 4 hour rental. How would we feel today if Mt. Vernon or the USS Constitution had been sold off by Bush I and were in private hands today? Probably the same way many of us feel about the Sequoia.
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