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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:02 PM
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Kerry's silence = complicity with voter fraud?
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 03:03 PM by UdoKier
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=4534



Kerry’s Silence Indicates Complicity with Vote Fraud
39 comment(s).


Go to JohnKerry.com and you will find absolutely nothing about the mounting evidence of vote fraud- why? There is no mention of the official voting receipts found in the garbage, or about the vote suppression in Ohio, or about the GAO starting an investigation into the 57,000 reported cased of voting ’irregularities’ nationwide. 13 Members of Congress have asked for an investigation into the voting problems, heaven forbid JohnKerry.com mention that. Why is it that VoteNader.com and VoteCobb.org both address the voting problems right on the front page, but the Democratic ticket of Kerry and Edwards won’t address the issue at all?





Maybe I'm going off the deep end, but I'm starting to feel like all the people denying that this isn't the case are rationalizing or in denial.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:09 PM
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1. This stuff is Dynamite!
"Think, is it just an amazing coincidence that the two main candidates were related, multi-millionaire boners? Is it possible for you to consider that, perhaps there really is an elite group of families running the country? Some call it the New World Order, it’s like the Mafia x 1000, without the accents."
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:14 PM
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3. Yes, I'm sure it was scripted.
Kerry spent 2 years, mortgaged his houses so he could be complicit in Bush's re-selection. All that BCCI/Iran-Contra stuff was part of the deep background, too.

Kerry is a big admirer of Bush because of this S&B association 35 years ago. :eyes:
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:18 PM
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5. Personally I wouldn't have used the word "complicity"
Since I don't think he is technically involved. But I think there is some sort of agreement.

He hasn't so much as thrown us a morsel since the election.

He could have at least said "There are some irregularities in the vote that really warrant real scrutiny." or SOMETHING.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:28 PM
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14. Yes. That's why he agreed to let Bush win all three debates, too.
You want a recount to be about Kerry/Losewards or about a recount?
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:24 PM
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7. NWO tends towards anti-semitism
"Zionist conspiracy" is a constant theme on those websites that talk about the NWO.

For a better explanation of who might be pulling the strings go to Google and type in Bilderberger. You don't need to use the capital B coz google isn't case sensitive; use the advanced seach page so you can view 100 hits on one window. The Bilderberger theory merits very close attention indeed IMO.

regards
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:26 PM
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8. sorry, my reply was for TheBorealAvenger n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:23 PM
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13. thanks ... eom
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:35 PM
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21. Kerry commits voter fraud against DEAN and joins Bush cabal!!!!
Yep..........

Skull n Bone blood is thicker than water and the
Americans are played once again!!!

What a yummy thriller!!!
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:14 PM
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2. Gore taught Kerry a lesson, imho
In 2000, Gore was demonized for keeping the issue of a recount going and being perceived as a sore-looser. Now, instead of his being a lighting-rod for those who want to say he's throwing everything into doubt/turmoil and impeding the country from moving forward, he is remaining on the side lines and publicly going back to work as a US Senator - faithfully upholding his oath of office - and, prudently, allowing others to press for the recount, etc.

IMO this is a much better strategy then if he were to run around the country. His "concession", as has been pointed out numerous times, is in no way politically or legally binding.

And besides, stories of things like the money that was held back, etc., and Dems bashing Kerry now has got to please repukes to no end....watching liberals back-stab and recriminate must be Christmas-come-early for them....
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:16 PM
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4. I don't know about all of that . . .

I think it is more benign than all that (though who knows?). Look, the DNC (and the Kerry campaign) has to very, very careful publicly.

They can't look as if they are tin-foil hat people. We can, perhaps, but they can't.

They have to be extra careful about undermining the moral authority of the U.S. government. We don't, but they do.

They want to remain viable for 06 and 08, and they are guarding against doing or saying anything that will weaken them during those runs. We may think not saying anything actually weakens them more, but they don't.

Finally, they are apart of the government -- House, Senate, States, etc. They need to be able to work with the opposition. We might say that the opposition isn't working with them, so who cares, but that isn't the way big-time American politics works.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:24 PM
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6. undermining the moral authority of the US government?
sorry, I just spit all over my computer screen.

100,000 dead people in Iraq, 1200 dead US soldiers, based on lies?

Torture at Abu Ghraib?


And if Kerry let out a peep that the election results seemed, well, curious, THAT would undermine the moral authority of the US government?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:52 PM
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10. We should know soon if we've been Skulled & Boned.
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:05 PM
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17. You missed my point
I don't think these guys have any moral authority -- but the Dems do -- or at least they work under the fiction of it.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:52 PM
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9. "There comes a time when silence is betrayal" - Martin Luther King Jr.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:37 PM
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22. Kerry's betrayal of all his supporters and ............DEMOCRACY!!!!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:02 PM
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11. Could be patiently awaiting the outcome of investigations.
Could be patiently awaiting something far more huge than "Watergate" to unfold.

Could be all kinds of stuff.

I guess we will just have to be patient and watch what happens as we continue our own march for freedom and democracy and justice and equality.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:38 PM
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23. A sign of WEAKNESS!!!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:10 PM
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12. It amounts to that....

http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/frontpage8.asp
Mr. Kerry, for instance—if he were smart, if he were truly forward-thinking and unselfish—could have changed what is now becoming the Master Narrative of the Election (a "mandate" based on "values" means: get pious or else). If he had made the speech I suggest (or some version of it), he could have changed the focus from Mr. Bush’s popular-vote win (only 51 percent anyway) to a narrative about the unresolved closeness of the margin. About how the country remains divided—at least electorally—rather than the false (based on misread, inaccurate exit polls) triumph of righteousness (and self-righteousness).

The Democratic Party would be exposing the scandal of the failure to reform our voting procedures to affirm fairness (no more four-hour lines in minority urban precincts, as in Ohio, and similar abuses) rather than getting its collective knickers in a twist over how to appease the intrusive, self-proclaimed moralists by discarding its principles.
snip

He made it all about him. All about how he’d look, about his image, perhaps about his future, his pathetic dream of running another inept campaign. What about his followers, who put their hearts into the campaign and were cheated of certainty so Mr. Kerry could bask in the goo-goo congratulations of the sappy and wrong-headed "spare the country" editorialists.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:32 PM
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15. from the article:
I’m sorry but I just can’t get over this- Kerry finished this election campaign with $50 million in the bank. Why? He didn’t want to win is the only logical explanation. Several days after the story broke, they came out with damage control- Kerry has only $15 million left, he gave the rest to the DNC. Think the numbers transposed is mere coincidence, or intentional misinformation?

Well, I'm sorry, too - but any one who uses "logic" like this is about two cents short of being a complete fucking idiot.

And my response to bellaciao.org for this drivel is something I'm sure they'll understand - va fan culo!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 04:42 PM
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16. No. Noone works as long as he did so that he could finish his political
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 04:44 PM by w4rma
carrier by throwing the game to someone who opposes everything Sen. Kerry has worked for all his life.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 05:25 PM
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18. Mercury is going Retrograde today
Expect some reversals between now and the new year.

As usual.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 06:46 PM
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19. Is 52 million still sitting in the Kerry account not being used?
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 06:48 PM by shance
Isnt that enough evidence?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:29 PM
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20. there's not 52 million sitting in Kerry's account
it's a bullshit story, based on bullshit evidence.

It's bad enough we've got Republicans spreading lies, we hardly need this kind of crap from the left, too.
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