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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:12 AM
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Why is the Theory of Evolution considered to be a Liberal Theory?
Whatever happened to the idea of Science being a dispassionate, reason and evidence based activity?The same thing applies to Global Warming, Environmental Degradation,Stem Cell Research and others.

Liberals stand for the primacy of Reason.The Conservatives have specific political agendas to promote;with each issue, Reasona dn Logic are junked and cockamamie theories by Nobel Prize Winners like Jerry Falwell take over.

Galileo wouldn't stand a chance with these new inquisitors.
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the other rick Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:16 AM
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1. Is it really?
This broad generalization is a bit too broad, in my opinion. A lot of Catholics voted 'conservatively' in the last election, yet the official Catholic position is that evolution is 'not incompatible with the Catholic faith'. And a lot of good science is coming out of Catholic universities.

Sure, there are some conservatives and conservative groups that lump evolution and reson together as bad, but far from all conservative voters think that way. These are the people 'liberals' must reach toward; the large number of moderates who tended to vote Democrat in the past but have voted Republican recently.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:19 AM
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3. You may be right but the megaphone is in the hands of the crazies.
Btw, welcome to DU!
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the other rick Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:48 AM
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6. OT: Thanks!
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:17 AM
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2. Because if we evolved, then we are all evolved
and not just the ruling class. This upsets a social order 'prescribed' by the bible, and any rejection of the bible is a rejection of their divine right.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:39 AM
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4. because "conservatives" have embraced the ideology of ignorance
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 08:40 AM by leftofthedial
economically,

religiously,

scientifically,

socially,

in every way.

the "conservative" sheeple have been had by their neocon manipulators. Part of that was convincing them that 2+2=5.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:46 AM
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5. Well, here's a conservative theory...
I heard as a child in church:
There were never any dinosaurs on this planet. Earth was recycled from other planets that contained strange creatures, thus explaining fossils and remains. I heard this in a talk someone gave at the Mormon church. Then as a fundie, I heard that the devil planted the fossils to shake our faith.

Oh yeah, which reminds me about something else I'd heard about 'heaven' in the Mormon religion--if I was righteous, as a woman, I would have the privilege of becoming one of the many wives of some man who would become a god, and would continue to bear his children for the rest of eternity in order to help populate his worlds. Religion is a sick, sick thing.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:04 AM
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8. The first statement about Mormons I've heard as well
Also heard the theory that Dinosaurs were astronauts.

But the second statement about woman's role in the hereafter is a pretty big distortion of what is actually believed. I don't know where you heard that, but it is not accurate.

Bryant
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:49 AM
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7. because it's logical and sensible... not to be confused with archaic cult
beliefs and fantasies, which are the definitive rote of the GOP conservatives.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:05 AM
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9. Because conservatives embraced religious fundementalism.
This seems like a pretty easy one to me.
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morcatknits Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:19 AM
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10. Fundamentalisms
All fundamentalisms, by definition, reject any change, and the theory of evolution was a change. Darwin, an Anglican, was astonished that his theory was seen as anti-Christian, by some.
morcatknits
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artv28 Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:30 AM
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14. Religion
If it weren't for religion there would be very few people that would have a problem with issues such as Evolution, Abortion, and Stem-cell research. Even addressing Global Warming and Environmental Degradation issues are viewed as futile and counter-productive by hardcore Christian fundamentalist. Most born-again Christians believe in the rapture. They believe the end of the world is near and that since they are true believers they will be saved. They believe this is God's will and nothing can be done to prevent it. On the other hand you have large corporate owners who want to believe Global Warming is a myth because environmental restrictions are against their economic interest. Perfect example of how the GOP can cater to both greed and stupidity at the same time.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:38 AM
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11. You want a Liberal theory????
The Christian Right pray to a God that evolved from Ape Gods.

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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:06 AM
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12. Because it doesn't mention GAWD every other word
Simple as that - if The Big Guy didn't do it, then most 'Muricans don't want to hear it.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 10:16 AM
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13. Hows this for a theory
We are told often by the media that the reason President Bush won a second term is because of the religious among us.

Many on Democratic Underground are Agnostic or Atheist. An Atheist or Agnostic would naturally be angry at Christians for being duped by President Bush. (as a Christian, I'm angry too, but possibly for different reasons)

Attacking Religion directly, however, has some negative consequences.

So we see a large spike in posts on evolution, because it is a safe place to attack religion from. Whether or not one believes that God created man, attacking science teachers for teaching science makes one look pretty foolish. So it's safe, but flexible. It's easy enough to stretch one's argument to cover a vieled attack on religion, while being safely able to retreat to the safety of defending teachers if the argument starts to go a way you don't want it to.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 11:47 AM
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15. did you ever consider
that organized religion NEEDS to be attacked?

they've had an open season on free thinkers for how many hundreds of years now?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:31 PM
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16. I don't know what you mean by attack
But no I dont' agree with that statement.

Bryant
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:47 PM
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18. well
i'll just leave it with a quote from Bakunin : "if god truly did exist, it would be necessary to abolish him."

there has never been any force in history as repellent or as strong as orgnanized religion and its agenda to enslave the minds of humanity.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:15 PM
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19. Well if that's your opinion
I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this issue.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 05:33 PM
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17. Because conservatives have rejected science.
Didn't you know that?

Any science that is in conflict with big business or scripture is all part of a liberal plot to end capitalism or to get more funding for university studies, according to them.
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