Do you suppose there are any gay, right wing, Christian fundamentalists?

[Cyrano]

Just asking.

Given the hypocrisy of the Republican party, (most recently, the flap over Ken Mehlman's sexual orientation) what if some of the gay-bashing, homophobic, fundies are actually in the closet? And of even greater import, what if some of their ministers, or leaders, or spokespersons were gay?

Well, at the very least, I think this would give hypocrisy a bad name. However, the thought of a fundie outing fest is, IMO, a version of ultimate justice.

Any opinions?

[fertilizeonarbusto]

1. Only sedated at your local mental hospital

n/t

[Not_Giving_Up]

2. Some of them are

They are chastised by their own religion, but they stay anyway. Weird huh?

[ooglymoogly]

12. most all of them are but thay have had pretty extensive lobotomies

and reoriented to hate queers, to hate themselves and beat up on people they see as like them...can't you tell

[lcordero]

3. Yes, try all of them

Why do you think that they are so preoccupied with gay sex?

[Liberaltarian]

4. most of 'em...

me thinks they doest protest too much.

[hatrack]

5. I'd guaran-doubledamn-tee it.

I mean, "Rev." Fred Phelps - come on! Anybody who hates gays THAT much, you just know - KNOW - he is one.

[tanyev]

6. Oh, I think that's a given.

All that remains is proving it. Li'l Ralphie Reed sure sets off my gaydar.

[KitchenWitch]

16. OMFG - Me too!!

n/t

[BeHereNow]

19. Me too-

I have many gay friends who agree, Ralph is gay.
I thought so the very first time I saw him.
bhn

[Kingshakabobo]

25. Speaking as a gay man, my gadar goes off when I see Ralphie Reed.

As a matter of fact, he's kinda cute.....nah..nevermind:-)

[BeHereNow]

31. Come to your senses dear!

You may be suffering from "Blanche DuBois syndrome!"
But never fear, mandatory mental health screening is near...
What IS it that draws us to these abusive men anyway?
Ralph is a little fucking NAZI.
BHN

[tanyev]

32. Perfect!

Now you need to take one for the team. Set up a tryst with Li'l Ralph and be sure to get it on film. Voila!

[Kingshakabobo]

34. If I lived in the D.C. area I would be up for some covert

black bag operations to expose the repug hypocrites.
Two way mirror and a video camera.
Come on over for a little scotch and sofa Ralphie.

[xultar]

7. Hell Yeah! n/t

[sui generis]

8. ah - there is a problem with this simple definition

to be "gay" implies a lot more than occasional same-sex attractions; it implies a participation in the culture in one form or another.

Perhaps "in the closet" has more relevance in this case, but that doesn't necessarily imply that someone would actually be a part of the gay culture if they came out of the closet. There are many more colors than black and white in that rainbow.

I personally believe that it's not so much that they're closeted but that they're envious of a more liberal acceptance of sexuality in general, of whatever orientation. They can't participate in it unless they're doing the worst of both orientations, trolling the bookstores or hiring whores, and so they feel guilty and disgusted and revile it in public.

They are hypocrits, and they are hurting us in our personal lives because they aren't happy with their own. They need to be "outed" for being hypocrits, not for being gay or hypersexual or whatever floats their boats.

[jonnyblitz]

9. I have talked to a gay wacko fundie black helicopter militia type

online in a gay chatroom. He lives in the woods somewhere here in CT and he rants and rales about libruls and quotes scripture. His "sexual interests" that he lists in his profile showcase his strange cognitive dissonance or "disconnect".

[Cyrano]

18. Sounds like one of the rapists in "Deliverance."

[jonnyblitz]

10. ALso. I have met 700 Club employees at Norfolk, Va gay bars

when I was stationed there in the navy. I am not sure if being a fundie is a requirement to be employed by Pat Robertson though. :shrug:

[mdhunter]

11. p < .0000000000001 says yes.

[Bat Boy]

13. Sure.

There are women, gay, and "Republicans of color."

The GOP is the party of the self loathing.

[UdoKier]

14. The vast majorrity of rabid fundie men are closet gays

and fundie women are frigid.

Just my opinion.

[TNDemo]

15. My husband got a theology degree and says that

whatever a man preaches the most about is his own sin (think Jimmy Swaggart and prostitution). We both went to this Christian college and his roommate and a bunch of other guys in his dorm were gay. They were pretty much on the QT about it but when it all came out I asked why in the world did they not go to a state school where it would be more easily tolerated and they said it was just a much better set-up there - no one gives a thought to all the males being sequestered together and kept apart from the females. Of course we also had the music teacher (married with kids) who looked forward to the incoming crop of freshman guys every year. Someone eventually ratted him out and he had to leave. I would dare say the fundies have as big a percentage or more of closeted gays than the rest of society.

[Cyrano]

29. Sorry for the pun, but this gives new meaning to Oral Roberts University.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

17. ralph reed comes to mind

[noonwitch]

20. Paul Crouch (TBN) and Jim Bakker

Jim Bakker had a few select males on his staff give him "rub downs" and he would fondle their penises during the massage.

Paul Crouch is being sued for some type of homosexual thing. If it's ever established that he is, it's over for TBN. That's good, too. First, PTL went under. Then, Turner bought the CBN family channel out from under Robertson (now it's ABC-owned), and Marion is limited to just "The 700 Club" and that goofy women's show right before it, with that scary woman who thinks she's so funny. Although, I miss the 80s CBN soap opera "Another Life". It was just so camp.

[Paranoid_Portlander]

21. I knew a fundie who was friendly towards gays,

and not the least bit disapproving. I don't know if he was gay himself. He seemed mentally conflicted with an anxiety disorder. Anyway, his homophobic employer fired him, just for having a tolerant attitude. This happened back in 1993. He never did discuss politics.

[u4ic]

22. I wonder if it is the same as with some Catholic priests

that staying in the religion somehow will wipe their 'sinfulness' away, help them to deal with their 'problem', etc.

If you've been indoctrinated since birth or a young age, I think it may be difficult to let go of the thinking that you're full of sin, and going to hell.

[Book Lover]

30. From my experience, priests break out

About half are sincere about giving up a life of their own to serve humanity (whether they are equipped mentally to do that is another story); about twenty-five percent are gay hoping that seminary will make them not gay anymore; about twenty-two percent are power-hungry MFers who love using the authority of the priesthood to order around the laity; and the remainder are the pederasts.

[sangh0]

23. I'm supposing you've never seen Ralph Reed on TV

:-)

[Walt Starr]

24. I'd say Karl Rove is one

Closeted, of course.

[Kingshakabobo]

26. God no! If he is, I'm going straight tomorrow. n/t

[Cyrano]

27. Great photos. Now if we could just see Rove's face melt like

that Nazi prick in "Raiders of the Lost Ark."

[jayctravis]

28. Perhaps more than one would expect.

[readmoreoften]

33. they're just people who are afraid of their own urges

be those urges towards women or men or orangutans or (all too often it seems) children.

shit, i'm afraid of their urges too, they're creepy.