No F***ing Way Do They Get Away With This!

[Stevendsmith]

Fact: The White House deleted and manipulated language in the EPA report on air quality at Ground Zero to hide the fact that hazardous toxins were present. Thousands will develop respiratory illness and many will die prematurely as a result.

Just think about the enormity of this crime.

There are still supporters of this administration? There is still a debate?

Will no one pay for this?

I am just in awe.

[proud patriot]

1. Supporter of bush are TRAITORS

To the Rule of Law , The U.S. Constitution ,
The Security of America and it's Citizens .

Bush Has Failed America

[indepat]

4. Yet an unbelievably large portion of the population still support the man,

his agenda, his policies, and his war, if polls can be believed.

[proud patriot]

11. I have yet to really buy into that he's popular

in the sense that people are going to vote for him .

I know some Dems that would never Speak out against a Prez.
Doesn't mean they will vote for him .....

[hang a left]

19. Yeah but you know people on this

board read alot of news and opinion and books. I think that most people really don't have time. They come home eat dinner, watch Seinfeld reruns, maybe catch the evening news, and go to bed. I think that there is a major major majority of people who just don't know had bad this fucker really is.

[Skittles]

2. WAY

They can and they will. Who exactly is going to stop them?

[sattahipdeep]

23. If this is true

Wilson has announced that he will have his private attorneys petition the
Department of Justice demanding that Roverer a/k/a Karl Rove be
prosecuted under the 1982 Intelligence Identity Protection Act . This law
specifically supposed to prevent what has happened in this case and that is
the Bush administration attempting to retaliate against a senior government
official who tells the truth about that administration by revealing the
identities of intelligence members within their own families.

[oasis]

3. Why do you think Christy Todd Whitman got the hell out?

[Racenut20]

5. Is This Why????

the 9/11 celebration will be held in DC? The air quality is too bad in NYC????? (perhaps Pepsi will rent them back the mall)

[nostamj]

9. "The air quality is too bad in NYC"

this refers to the weeks/months following 9/11. remember that the 'pile' smoldered for a very long time. and the smoke plume dumped ash over a very wide area (including my brooklyn neighborhood).

conditions now are pretty much what they were on 9/10/01. but even weeks afterward, the stench from the 'pile' could be smelled from blocks away from the site.

he'll get away with it. he's never taken responsibility for anything (bad) in his entire life.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

12. I was traveling to NYC weekly after 9/11

Starting in October. A lot of my customers at the time were downtown, as was my company's HQ. The air was terrible, the stench really didn't dissipate until months later, and though I have never had a breathing problem in my life, I felt asthma-like symptoms whenever I ventured down to Wall Street. I can't imagine actually LIVING down there-like my friends who live in Battery Park City. I'm sure 20 or 30 years down the road we'll see the carcinogenic effects of this, not to mention birth defects.

FUCK BUSH!

[nostamj]

14. "birth defects" already happening...

well, a clear rise in low birth weight babies being born to people exposed to the WTC toxins.

also, I have a co-worker with a NYFD husband. the number of men that went on disability/retired due to lung problems afterwards was staggering... further reducing a devastated force.

it will only get worse.

and, btw, bushies are TRAITORS. and you know the penalty for treason. bring em on!

indict, convict, pass sentence, carry out sentence.

[prolesunited]

15. Did you have any health problems

or feel any ill effects at the time?

[nostamj]

24. no

i really was NOT in the *thick* of it....

if they had not gotten the subways running (well, MY train) then I would have been much much closer to the major smoke that day getting to the Manhattan Bridge...

but there was still paper falling out of that plume in Brooklyn when I finally got home....

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. Heck, you could smell it blocks away?

My mother could smell it in Richmond Hill, Queens.

[nostamj]

22. well, I *was* talking about BROOKLYN

Carroll Gardens....

[TNOE]

6. If this doesn't tell you what they're really about

I don't know what does - keep business moving - hell with it if you get sick on your way there. They don't care how many they kill off as long as that mighty dollar is made.

[JHB]

7. So What? It's only New Yorkers...

It's not as if this were about red-state Heartland Real Amuricans, is it? :shrug:

</sarcasm>

[demgrrrll]

8. What is sad about this for me is that the answer is not an unequivocal

yes. There should be no question about this at all, but I would bet that anyone who reads this will also be thinking I wonder how they are going to slide on this one. Every fiber of my being wants them to pay for what they have done. I believe that what comes around does eventually go around it just isn't happening fast enough to suit me with chimpy and his slimebucket crew.

[JustJoe]

10. Wall Street must open!... Oh, and "National Security," too!

http://www.turnto10.com/news/2455185/detail.html

"We were told that a desire to reopen Wall Street and national security concerns were the reasons for changing the press releases," (Inspector General Nikki Tinsley, the EPA's top watchdog) said.

[robbedvoter]

13. "I'm a businessman, not a politician" - that's what it means

It was other businessmen - in the second tower telling people to stay put after the first one was hit. Beware of businessmen!

[graham67]

17. I haven't read any reports....

what kind of toxins are we talking about? Is asbestos one of them?

[tom_paine]

20. Asbestos, dioxins at 1,500 times exposure limits!

The worst of it was...such was the upswelling of patriotism at the time, if the Busheviks had even released half the data and arranged for minimal protections, I'll bet so goddamned many of those brave volunteers and rescue workers would have consciously decided to get what protection was available (something a bit closer the right full protection, not a fucking wet handkerchief) and consciously decide that they would take the chance because they did what had to be done. Then those who incurred rerspiratory ailments (probably not as bad had the Busheviks began airlifting in as much protection, even if it was only partial, as was available) would have made the concious and brave decision to risk that in service.

But no, instead they were utterly lied to, and instead of getting half-protection, they got NOTHING but a lifetime of respiratory ailments.

Disgusting, grotesque. Evil.

You know...what we've come to expect as normal from the Busheviks.

[tom_paine]

18. That all depends on how far we've sunk down the Orwellian Spiral

I have to say I'm afraid that it's very far indeed and that you may be mistaken.

Orwellian Madness. I've been surrounded by increasing levels of cognitive dissonance in Imperial Amerika since the Attempted Coup of 1998 and especially after the Bloodless Coup of 2000 so much that you'd think I'd get used to it, like the horse Boxer in "Animal Farm".

But I can't. It is just so offensive to the intellect and also it is so goddamned like a taste of the Old Soviet Union that I, who is pretty anti-Commie (7 great uncles offed by Stalinists in the 20s -- Grandmom escapes just before they start getting hauled off), have a natural revulsion to Comrade-style lies and propaganda.

But to get back to my original point: While I wish your post subject line is true, I'm afriaid that, like the collapse of the Old Soviet Union, I'll have to see some concrete evidence before ZI surrender to wishful thinking...

[Andy_Stephenson]

21. Shock and Awe

perpetrated on the American people.