Was princess Diana murdered?

[sweetheart]

Certainly i have my own opinion on this, and it IS relevant, as this event was the earthquake on which "new labour" came in to power... and a major retrenchment of the royal family to "being regular".

I know she was a cocaine user from multiple journalist sources in the UK that were not allowed to print the fact.... but even today, there is a stigma to considering her an MI6 sanctioned execution. Do you think she was executed? By whom?

[mlawson]

1. There was that rumor that the "Firm" had it done.

I am sure you know who I mean by that. Isn't Prince Philip the dark force there??? I have read that he is a real bastard!

[sweetheart]

3. i heard similarly

but why? Was it simply to prevent a brown baby (dodi's)? Was it because she was uppity? Blonde? Hidden in her death is that dark side of britain... but to call that geriatric bigot a dark force is stretching things a bit... no?

[mlawson]

5. I'm asking you.

Does Philip run the Firm, or does the Queen? Or is it a combination effort? Or is it far more complicated than this?

'Geriatric bigot' is an excellent term for him, BTW!

[sweetheart]

16. far more complicated

Its like saying: "who are the 10 most powerful people in the USA right now?"

The answer likely includes at least 5 names that are not public figures. Similarly in britain, behind the throne are shadowy nameless figures speaking perfect english and ever so well dressed... all interconnected to the families of wealth that own the UK for centuries... and all that time, the queen is the head of the church if england... and no remarriage of royals is allowed (charles/camila's curse)... hence edward's abdication to marry wallace simpson. How could a potential heir to the leadership of the church of england have a muslim baby? Some white racists felt that this was a step too far. Do not underestimate how sympathetic britain was with nazi germany.... that evil is in all nations... and most dangerous in those we do not recognize.

[Wonk]

2. Diana: The night she died

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/dianadied.html

"Woodward and Bernstein would have been proud." The Guardian

(snip)

After gaining exclusive access to all 27 volumes of the French report into the incident, the filmmakers were in prime position to ask pointed questions of those involved. Key witnesses have been silenced. Others have gone missing. Another committed suicide in suspicious circumstances. The driver, Henri Paul, has links with the British Secret Service, MI6, and it appears his autopsy is unreliable.

Why did it take Diana's ambulance one hour and 10 minutes to cover the three-mile distance to the hospital? All these questions are asked. This documentary is compulsory viewing for conspiracy theorists.

153 M quicktime

10 M mp3 for dialup DUers (the quicktime is much better because there are some parts with subtitles)

[hang a left]

4. I was reading this last night

it is real tin foily, but hey, got me going. It has to do with the Royals being satanists and Prince Charles being the Antichrist

http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/bsecret.html

[amazona]

6. prince charles is a liberal

I doubt the Antichrist gives a damn about the coal miners.

[hang a left]

9. you might want to do a little backround

research on the Prince. He is one of the most powerful men in the world.

[sweetheart]

11. Whats wrong with being a crackpot?

I found your article interesting along the lines of my own "thinking" on such matters:

The earth is on an interdimensional boundary between lower astral worlds and "higher" astral dimensions. This manifests that the primary conflicts of the place are issues of the second and third chakra (power and sex).... not of the higher chakras (love, communication, discrimination, absolution). The sanskrit term for this change in boundaries is "the beginning of the kali yuga". It describes a time where there is no longer law or ethics, but rather a population driven insane by desire and hatred... etc... and that the only place were one will discover knowledge is in "sexuality" and "meditation"... being very similar in truth...

Long ago this planet was colonized by an advanced civilization. This civilization formed a colony that became known as Atlantis. Their civiliation was millions of years old, and they had mastered genetic engineering and all sorts of high arts.

In a great war, reminiscent of "star wars" ;-), the home planet was destroyed and Atlantis was cut off... A fact all those folks with a "scottie beam me up" sticker are missing. The only way to leave this planet was occult (meaning hidden unexplainable). At a time long before our modern history, the advanced souls that reincarnated in atlantis keeping it "enlightened"... these souls formed a huge circle and left this world.

A few stayed behind to take care of those who would not make it.... and now, so many years and millenia later, we have a planet overpopulated by early cycle souls that percieve life as "me" and "enemy"... and they caste life in their image.

Those few souls of atlantis are the famous and powerful souls still guiding things on this earth: Rama, Krishna, Adida ... www.adida.org

During the atlantis period, genetic engineers experimented with many species of animal, creating a dolphin and wale that they might survive the destruction of human civilization... and creating most of the species that people call "natural" on this planet... including slave races of human beings that were genetically modified to have hormone-driven reproduction vs. the atlantean bodies that were very tall, fair and living for at least half a millenia.

During the decline and end of atlantis, these species interbred... and now, a gazillion years later, we are atlanteans souls trapped in bodies that are very hormone driven, much more than is natural, and also living such a pathetically short time.

The earth has in the last decade, entered a transit towards this lower astral dimension... and few souls can contemplate life otherwise... that we live on an institutionalized hell planet... where evil denizens of the darker worlds take incarnation to live out their fantasies of mass murder and insanity.

The whole planet is a sinking in to a dark insanity and you are here because you belong here for some reason or another.... and you have the choice to change that in this life, that you do not reincarnate on this planet of insanity, as "insane as this diatribe sounds, it is nothing next to the sick murderers in the american government".... true mental illness, i'll leave to those doing the murdering.

Diana won her freedom and did not reincarnate here. She did it by being an exceptional person and fighting for land mine victems and AIDs patients... she did not start out that way, but wisely turned her cards when she felt mortality creep in on her.

The lesson of diana is to die a wise person's death.

The story is a bit hodgepodge, but it is the best i can reconstruct from all the myths, past life memories and such.

Best regards,
-s

[Must_B_Free]

18. Right on

I like that.

[Suspicious]

50. What an enjoyable read.

I recall having a few conversations with an acquaintance a few years back - he was what I would describe as "eccentric", but a heck of a nice guy. He was entirely cryptic when he spoke, and I was fascinated with his narratives.

One day, we were having a discussion of a somewhat spiritual nature - talking about different religions, etc. - and out of the blue, he told me a great change was taking place as we spoke, and it was a very important time. He told me there were thousands upon thousands of "souls" (and he didn't actually use the word "souls", but since I can't remember the conversation in its entirety, now, I'll use it, for lack of the correct term) vying to inhabit human bodies in order to participate in this great change.

Anyway, I found the whole story amazing to listen to. I never could get him to tell me whether or not he followed any particular religion or belief system, but I wonder, after reading your post, if he wasn't talking of some of the same type of stuff.

If I recall correctly, he was a volunteer - one of the suicide hotline type of volunteers. He devoted a vast amount of time and energy to it.

[Suspicious]

51. I love this line...

.... I know other people who have seen George Bush shape-shift into a reptilian.

Somehow, this should seem more implausible to me... :tinfoilhat:

[Dookus]

7. I dunno...

seems like inciting a high-speed papparazzi race would be a rather unreliable way to try to off somebody. Seems like the car might not have crashed, and even if it did, that it wouldn't necessarily kill the occupants. Had she been wearing a seatbelt, she probably would've escaped relatively uninjured.

I imagine M16 has more "subtle" ways of dispatching people.

[MoonAndSun]

14. Yes, Dookus, I agree with you completely.....

it has already come out from all reports that Diana would have survived if she had been wearing her seat belt. I don't know why she didn't have it on, did she get into the car so quickly at the Ritz that she just forgot and then she must have been upset at having the press chase her, I'm sure putting her belt on was the last thing on her mind. But then her bodyguard should have told her to put it on, he certainly had his on, it's the only reason he is still alive today.

What a sad time that was for all of Diana's admirers, of whom I am one.

[RobinA]

43. Wasn't She

in the back seat? I know I sometimes don't put my seatbelt on in the back seat. Don't know why, I always wear it in the front. In the back seat you just feel a little more protected.

[dflprincess]

36. I'm with you

Besides, if it had been a hit, they would have blamed the IRA.

[Demobrat]

8. If that was a murder it was the best orchestrated

killing I've ever heard of. The driver was drunk and crashed. It happens every day. Just like spousal murder and rape. Why is that so hard to accept when a celebrity is involved?

[Maple]

12. The driver was drunk?

And no one noticed?

A man who didn't do that previously?

Along with all the other odd things about it?

[Must_B_Free]

19. in the live coverage of the accident, you could see her

she was alert and talking - I saw it with my own eyes.

I think the crash didn't do it's job, but the hospital made sure it did.

Face it - she was going to turn the royal bloodline into the royal 'mud'line by having a child with a non-white - she 'earned' her death from their perspective.

[Clete]

38. It's possible. Some people are functional drunks.

An LA cop once told me a story about a man he stopped for an expired registration and no other reason. He was driving fine. When the man got out of the car to give the cop his driver's license, the cop noticed an open bottle of liquor in the car. So he gave him the walking on a straight line drunk test.

The man passed the drunk test, but by that time the cop had a chance to get a whiff of his breath. Since it's also against the law to have open bottles of alcoholic beverages in a car, he arrested him and took him to the hospital for a blood test. The results were over 2.0 and legally drunk was anything over 0.8.

So what the cop said is that rarely, but it happens, they run into people who have learned to adapt to being constantly drunk and can function anyway.

[Maple]

39. Oh WELL, that solves the whole thing

Even though the man didn't drink before.

[sweetheart]

15. because it was more than celibrity

She was the female living thorn in the side of the crown... and she was not going away... likely her natural death would have long outlived the current queen.

She was murdered. We all know that, but i play dumb for thread's sake... MI6 and prince phillup. They could not conscience the possibility of a royal princess carrying a muslim baby, and all that that would mean for their dominance and control of UK culture.

She was no civilian, rather more like Mrs. Bush... a non-elected family member of immense influence... don't get her confused with brittany... its a lot more than celibrity at issue, rather the ascent of new labour and the retrenchment of the royal-crony network on british politics... that a left government supports the shrubster and his imperial wars of mass stupidity? Something's up and we must trace crimes back to their origins.

[Maple]

10. the Queen is on record

as having said..."Be careful Paul, There are powers at work in this country about which we have no knowledge"....to Paul Burrell, Diana's former butler.

Diana wanted to marry a Muslim doctor...not Dodi.

[jmm]

13. I heard that too.

Diana wanted to marry a Muslim doctor...not Dodi.

I saw some E special recently that said she was dating Dodi to make the doctor jealous.

[Maple]

17. She was prepared to convert

Dr Hasnat Khan from Lahore Pakistan was his name.

[friendofbenn]

20. diana is a given for me

what about david kelly?

[sweetheart]

21. coerced suicide?

Murder's a bit of a stretch for Walter Mitty. The inquiry clearly turns the hand of number 10... covering up for the lies lies and more lies about going to war... that some minutia and trivia of how 45 minutes drove the country to war... when the plain fact is that a liar prime minister formed a conspiracy to decieve the public in concert with the criminal bushishta gang. That inquiry is overlooked while the 45 minutes claim is cleared up that the real inquiry never begin.

The Kelly death is a sad affair, but that it has effectively distracted all of britain from the fact that they illegally went to war based on lies and now british citizens are being murdered as an evil occupying imperialist power... stinks to high heaven.

I'm glad the press believes it... as i sure don't. Labour needs more than some PR window dressing.. a little honesty would be a welcome respite in this war of control freakery and warmongers against regular human beings.

[sweetheart]

22. some quotes for dramatic support:

"The prime minister said that he was aware of no unhappiness in the intelligence community about the dossier. He disagreed with the Foreign Affairs Select Committee (FAC) verdict that some of its language was tougher than usual for intelligence material."


Obviously, Mr. Blair does not speak to his own people:

"Mr Scarlett, chairman of the joint intelligence committee (JIC), made it clear in his evidence that the intelligence assessment of the 45-minute claim was that it related only to battlefield mortar shells or small-calibre weaponry, Mr Ottaway said. "That would only threaten an invading force, so on the evidence so far Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the region or the world."

This is from a london-times article that i will not reference as i loathe murdoch, but it is the only national paper in my local shoppe.

[friendofbenn]

26. what about kelly's "dark actors" comment?

it sounds remarkably similar to what the queen said to paul burrel to me. are they actually investigating the cause of death in the enquiry? i think kelly and alistair campbell are fall guys for the main man. what next? geoff hoon resigns to spend more time with his family? thats getting to be a common excuse lately

[sweetheart]

29. indeed it reeks

of people taking a fall for "numero uno". I read that, but i think he was most concered with those iraqi people who had been his sources who were betrayed by the exposure of certain details... that those folks would pay with their lives and that likely he himself would be found dead in a forest somewhere.... (i think that last bit is a close quote)

I'm just a bit flummoxed as to how a guy killed himself with a boyscout knife slitting one wrist... but the location in rural oxfordshire seems hardly the MI5 specialty. Surely they would have arranged a less purposeful death had they been involved.

[goddess40]

23. Princess Diana

Who cares???????????????

[edward]

24. Sounds like an Art Bell program.

Well, that new guy whoever he is.

[sweetheart]

25. unsolved murders with perps still in government?

Hmmmm... sounds like a crime to me... one that has no statute of limitations... and one that has the same circle of crony friends as the bushta's....

The network of the criminal government in washington DC is a global one, and must be attacked root and branch.... it is not simply enought to depose shrub, but to remove their memory such that no culture ever remembers neocon'ism, tory'ism and all that it stood for.

You don't care as you are disabused to murderers in government... it is normal for america to be ruled by a mass murderer.... and in this case a really evil one... so indeed, diana appears small pickings... but that is a mistaken illusion.

[Maple]

32. Pardon me?

If it doesn't directly concern you, it therefore doesn't matter?

Have you thought of the connections this has?

The Muslim ones?

The security service ones?

The American ones?

Are you awake yet?

[ddoumeche]

27. A plot in a cup of tea ?

As with any celebrities violent death, there are rumors about
Diana's death.
For sure, she was not beloved by the Royal family, but I
haven't noticed the Queen Elisabeth was a fanatic of political
murder, especially about the mother of its great-children.

Let's watch some facts :
- a lot of celebrities are cocain-addicted, that's something
usual. According to some user, you can stop it by yourself, or
there are private and efficient clinic to cure yourself. And
Diana was quite wealthy, enought for this kind of treatment.
- the MI6 don't obey to the queen but to the prime-minister.
- car crash is the most usual kind of violent death in the
developped world.
- paris highway are especially dangerous at night (I know, I
drived in them)

It's a sad event, but celebrities die as well. Except in our
hearts.

[friendofbenn]

28. the intelligence services answer to no one

they have no oversight whatsoever. as for answering to the prime minister. tell that to harold wilson

[Maple]

31. None of which

have anything to do with this topic

[Dirk39]

30. Yes, I did it...

I was so tired of this living soap opera with her small affaires, her fashion shows and her pseudo-political engagment against landmines, I couldn't resist to get rid of her. She didn't even have breast implants or released a record...
Cynical from Germany,
Dirk

P.S. I asked some well known secret and not so secret organizations to do the job for me, but they all claimed, to have better things to do...

[Maple]

33. And because YOU are unaware

of anything beyond 'fashion', you assume it's the same for everyone?

[HalfManHalfBiscuit]

34. Of course not

She died in a car accident.

However, the "Morrissey is not gay" rumors were certainly started by a clandestine organization - MI6 most likely. Mabye you should look in to it.

[Maple]

35. Maybe you could be serious

like...you know...just for a moment of your life?

[Gloria]

37. Believe it or not, E! had a decent show on last night, inc. an exclusive

interview with Dodi's father. There are some very interesting things they brought out.
For example, 20 traffic cameras between the hotel and inside the tunnel were for some reason, turned OFF that night...so there's no tape.

An eyewitness heard an explosion before the crash.

Henri Paul had some working relationship with the British "CIA" or whatever it's called.

They took blood from the wrong place in his body at the autopsy...and then took another sample 4 days later, when sugar levels in his blood would for sure have risen (thus indicating alcohol).

The CIA and the Brits were monitoring the yacht the week before D & D went to Paris....

Mercedes was never allowed to examine the vehicle...

The white Fiat was found in Southern France...and the guy who owned, I believe, died suspiciously

The ambulance stopped TWICE on the way to the hospital...supposedly because her blood pressure was low....but why STOP TWICE if the patient is critical?? And take over an hour to get to the hospital?

And much more....

[DemBones DemBones]

42. It was like when Reagan was shot and the Secret Service

piled him into the limo and "got lost" on the way to the hospital. In D.C. Reagan was supposed to die.

[RobinA]

45. I Think Bill Clinton

did it. Diana had been having an affair with Vince Foster and in an intimate moment he had blabbed about Bill and Hill's plot to rig bombs in the World Trade Center in case the radio controlled jets missed crashing into it.

After they offed Vince and let a suitable amount of time go by as to avert suspicion, they carried out their nefarious plot by having first brother and known substance abuser Roger Clinton substitute at the very last minute for Diana and Dodi's driver that night. They had to have the video cameras in the tunnel turned off because Roger, who did wear his seatbelt, hopped out of the car after impact and disappeared into the Paris darkness. Has anyone heard of Roger lately?

[Dirk39]

47. I would believe this story, if I wouldn't know that I did it...

we just made this experiment to replace all those drug-addict-long-hair-unwashed-communist-socialist-liberal-marxist-terrorists with Princess Diana, and it really worked. It really worked, people are that stupid. But then, after this liberal version of Britney Spears started to get boring, we wanted to get rid of her....
We thought about giving this job exclusively to Clinton, but after we found out that Hillary is a Lesbian and he had to beg this school girl, we knew, he was finished anyway...

Dirk

[teknomanzer]

40. So what...

the princess is dead. Boo f'in hoo. She posed for pictures with sick and injured children while wearing fancy dresses and enjoyed a life of fantastic privelidge. Now she is dead... and I still don't care. Mother Teresa died around the same time. Teresa was in the trenches working directly with the unfortunate. When she died what was there like maybe one news blip that faded off the radar in a milisecond. Screw princess Di! In fact screw all scum royalists! The English Republic is long overdue! I spit in the Queen's direction! (Pahtoowee)

[DemBones DemBones]

41. There were obvious reasons for "The Firm" to want to

do away with Diana, and murders of royals are nothing new. I guess it's my English ancestry that made me think of this right away. One of my ancestors was a barrister at the court of Henry VIII -- speaking of executing inconvenient wives -- and I'm sure he'd have understood that Diana had gone beyond the pale and had to be stopped. The future king, Prince William, could not be allowed to have a half-Arab sibling and a mother who converted to Islam.

[incontrovertible]

44. that is EXACTLY right

I was JUST about to post this:

"The future king, Prince William, could not be allowed to have a half-Arab sibling and a mother who converted to Islam."

Absolutely right. The whole of Western Civilization flows from the survival of Christianity against the onslaught of Islam, and England is considered the epitome of Western Civilization. The conversion of the mother of the future King, and the potential mass conversion of her fans amongst young women throughout England, would have made it seem as if the Battle of Tours had never occurred.

There are forces at which we are only allowed the faintest glimpse. These are among them.

If Princess Diana were not murdered, I'd lay every cent I own on the bet that she was going to be.

[Mz Pip]

46. BFEE

We all know they are responsible for everything bad that happens anywhere, anytime... <sarcasm>

MzPIp
:dem:

[Maple]

48. And..........

"One day I'm going to go up in a helicopter and it'll just blow up. MI5 will do away with me" - Princess Diana (Sunday Mirror, January 4th 1998).

"Such an affair is racially and morally repugnant and no son of a Bedouin camel trader is fit for the mother of a future king"
Prince Phillip

[incontrovertible]

49. shiver

"Such an affair is racially and morally repugnant and no son of a Bedouin camel trader is fit for the mother of a future king"
Prince Phillip

Yikes. Yeah, uh... for anyone reading... don't doubt for one second that Prince Phillip could have you killed.

[sweetheart]

52. i thought about that

But what the hell. Murderers are allowed to run free in the Thames valley... i guess its always been that way, but i have to wonder about that "justice" thing.

The long and deep hatred of islam in the church of england and american christian churches that are warmongering evil houses to abuse power to murder anyone... but such is christianity and the dynasty of popes that rules this holy roman empire.

[emad]

53. There's one simple way to a truly informative answer:

that will quickly and scientifically sort out the conspiracy theories from any potential facts:

Ask the coroner at the forthcoming inquest that they are now promising to DNA test Charles, Wills, Harry, Earl Spencer, the Spencer sisters Jane and Sarah, Frances Shand Kydd - Di's mother - & Queen Elizabeth. Now try and make a match with Di's DNA. If the results are perplexing (eg. no Di match against Wills and Harry), ask the coroner how come these two inherited her 17 million pounds. Then ask why John Major was appointed Legal Guardian of Wills and Harry before they could get the dosh.

Then ask why a Legal Guardian was needed if the boys already had one ie. their father Charles. Then try get a DNA match for Charles and the boys.

Next, repeat DNA test against DNA from Di's mother and siblings. If no match, what the hell are they doing overseeing and executing her last will and testament, and raising money for her charity - the one that recently got busted by the US's Franklin Mint for gross mudslining.

If still no answers, compare Di's DNA to that of John Major. And try comparing Charles' DNA to that of Queen Elizabeth.

If that one also draws a blank, ask why was JM almost immediately appointed to the board of Carlyle Group.

For those that knew her from a very early age, I believe the above formula might answer any remaining questions about her premature demise.