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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:33 PM
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Did you see the guy taking over Homeland Security? Looks like a thug.

Worked as a police commissioner under Guliani. Looks like a mob enforcer. Well he ought to scare the pants off of any would be terrrorist. I wonder if he growls.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:34 PM
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1. He is a thug
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:37 AM
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26. I have footage of him just post 9/11 on CNN saying..
"I don't want to hear anything about civil rights from the bleeding heart liberals" in regards to the 'security measures' being considered ie- Patriot Act. He's a nightmare about to happen to us all.

RTP
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:58 AM
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30. You should send that footage to a Senator
Doesn't he have to be confirmed by the Senate?
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:34 PM
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2. Haven't I seen him on Faux as an "expert"?
I know I've seen him on one of the networks. Please, please tell me I'm wrong about it being Faux ... Please!
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:35 PM
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3. you are not wrong
Faux. Thug.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:38 PM
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6. He was who Bush sent to Iraq too. Great job he did there huh?
He was supposed to be helping the police get up over there.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:48 PM
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11. Kerik should be asked how much $$$ he and Guiliani made off of Iraq.
They have/had some sort of private security company.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:35 PM
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4. OMG! - They shaved Saddamn and sent him here!!!!
AAAIIIEEE!!!!

:evilgrin:
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:37 PM
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5. Just found this piece of crap he wrote ..
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/33106.htm


November 1, 2004 -- TOMORROW, America will decide who will lead our nation for the next four years. For the future of my family, my country and the principles I have based my life upon, I'm walking into the voting booth and pulling the lever for President Bush.
I am voting for George W. Bush because he has shown me that he has the resolve and the strength to fight and win the war against terrorism. In this year's presidential election, the first held since the attacks of 9/11, the most important election in our lifetime, these qualities have never been more critical.

I'm voting for President Bush because I was the commissioner of the New York City Police Department on 9/11 and I watched the planes crash into the World Trade Center, and take the lives of 23 of my cops, 37 Port Authority officers, 343 firefighters and almost 2,400 innocent civilians. And three days later, George Bush was at my side, and standing shoulder to shoulder with the grief stricken heroes still searching for survivors. He stood with us at the site of the worst attack in U.S. history and delivered a promise we desperately needed to hear — that the madmen responsible for this evil "would hear from us."

I'm voting for President Bush because he fulfilled that promise in three months, breaking the Taliban and al Qaeda's hold on Afghanistan and turning a terrorist breeding ground, responsible for training more than 20,000 fanatics, into a democracy, where the first presidential vote in Afghan history was cast by a 19-year-old woman.



Ass kisser. :puke:
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:41 PM
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10. Complicit in treason, you mean....
"I'm voting for George W Bush because I'm fully onside with his neo-con master's plan for global Fascist domination."
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:58 PM
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13. Asshole............
"And three days later, George Bush was at my side, and standing shoulder to shoulder"....................yadayadayada. Is he aware that Bill Clinton was standing in NY BEFORE Bu$h? That Clinton came all the way from freaking Australia and made it there BEFORE Bu$h> Bu$h is a fucking coward.
He's an ass kissing toady and a jack booted thug. He'll fit into the Bu$h administration very nicely.
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:39 PM
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7. No offense to police officers but this is really freaking me out.
Shouldn't the person who takes over Homeland Security have more... "worldly" --politically wise--experience? I mean not that Ridge had that much but I do believe he did host a couple foreign Diplomats when they came to PA.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:21 PM
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17. He's got wordly experience ... years in Saudi Arabia working for
the company .... the spooks ... some sort of .... uh .... contractor
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:39 PM
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8. Kerik helped cover up the truth behind 9-11...
Somebody ask him why he agreed with Guliani's decision to sell off the WTC rubble to Far Eastern salvage companies BEFORE any forensics were done on them.

I mean, he is aware of proper police procedure, isn't he?

How is that a man who perpetrated, at best, an act of incredible "gross negligence" get nominated for a promotion?

huh?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:49 PM
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12. Perhaps his Saudi experience helped?
Fresh out of the Army, 21 year old Bernard provided security for the construction of a large military base Saudi Arabia. There he honed his know-how in international police work, investigations and terrorism and also worked for the Royal Saudi family. "I think I left Saudi Arabia with a different sense of internal pride, with a sense of honor and integrity that I didn't know and understand before I got there."

www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/tows_past_20011114_d.jhtml

Yes, from Oprah. Just the first link I could find to confirm these interesting details of his resume.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:03 PM
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14. Kerik was definitely in on it.
Maybe the coverup, maybe the execution, but he's clearly being rewarded for something. Twice now, in fact. And the fucker looks every bit as corrupt as the rest of them. If there's one thing I despise more than a fake "Christian", it's a dirty cop :grr:
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 10:08 PM
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22. let's be fair. he may have only helped CAUSE 9/11. he isn't Lex Luther.
I mean, he needed help from Cheney and several other people.

I would let him guard the Reichstag anytime!
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:56 AM
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29. Bush is filling his cabinet with uberLoyalists and insiders...
if I were a 9-11 conspiracy theorist... and I'm not saying I am... I'd see this appointment as payback for going along with the plan.

:tinfoilhat:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 07:41 PM
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9. He used to be Giuliani's cheuffeur. Just goes to show,
it's not what you know, it's who you know.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:30 PM
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15. Kerik
Isn't that what Captain Kirk shouts when he loses his memory?

"I am Kerik, I am Kerik"
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 08:52 PM
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16. Freeper Women Salivate over Him
Judith REGAN, the one behind wingnut Regan Books, used to do an interview show on Faux. He was one of her authors. She was drooling throughout, partly with her desire to mother him in his search for his mother, and partly with lust as she asked him where he was when the 9-11 news broke. He said he was in the shower in his office. Pause. After working out. She was drooling at the image in her mind.

*******QUOTE*******

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060009012/qid=1102036848/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-7634645-1226422?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

The Lost Son: A Life in Pursuit of Justice
by Bernard B. Kerik,

As a young man, he is often in trouble and even quits school. He gains a sense of purpose in the military and embarks on a career in law enforcement that culminates in his becoming commissioner. There's a secondary story line in this book: his desire to understand why his mother abandoned him and what led to her death.

http://www.mhmraofharriscounty.org/Interface%20WWW/DecJan02/KayY.html

In her 34 years of life, his mother was divorced four times, arrested and charged with prostitution, and, following “stretches of sobriety” was ordered by the courts to spend 12 weeks in a hospital or institution for the treatment of alcoholism.

When Kerik was 4, the police placed him in protective custody and foster care for six weeks. Kerik’s father petitioned the courts to obtain custody, and his mother didn’t show up for the hearing, “because she was wanted on a warrant for escaping from the hospital where she was sentenced to tackle her alcoholism.”

********UNQUOTE*******
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:11 AM
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33. What Judith REGAN Is Up to Now
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 11:39 AM by UTUSN
*******QUOTE*******
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/liz.htm
I WAS READING Judith Newman's ar ticle in Vanity Fair on publishing's "bad girl" Judith Regan, and though there may be plenty in this piece that Regan doesn't care for — on the whole, I think it's a business valentine. If I know the courageous, indomitable, unpredictable Regan, she'll have it reprinted as a promotion piece. It makes her sound dynamic, invincible and smart! In my opinion, she isn't just smart; she is brilliant.

One of Regan's books this year is Peter Evans' "Nemesis." I had read "Ari," Evans' 1986 book on Aristotle Onassis, and thought he was right on the money, so this column was one of the first to write extensively about "Nemesis." The book, which Evans says took him 10 years to write, tells the disastrous story of Onassis, his marriage to the widowed Jacqueline Kennedy, his various nefarious dealings, his epic tragedies and suggests that he had a terrorist assassinate Robert Kennedy, a man he considered to be his mortal enemy. ....

Robert (VAUGHN) grew so fascinated by the story of "Nemesis" that he sent a copy of the book to Sirhan Sirhan, still serving a life sentence in California State Prison for the 1968 murder of Bobby Kennedy. He says, "I have suggested to Sirhan that this book could form grounds for a new appeal by him and could open the door to a long overdue federal investigation into RFK's assassination. I was a friend of Bob Kennedy and have had a keen interest in this from the start." Vaughn adds, "I'd like to know why everybody is talking about this book, except apparently the people who should be doing something about getting the case reopened."

In "Nemesis" — Onassis has a lady friend toward the end of his life, Helene Gaillet De Neergaard, and she claims Ari told her he had hired terrorists to kill Bobby.

********UNQUOTE*******
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:13 PM
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40. Oh, boy....Bush now has his Heydrich.
Guy's childhood makes the Big Dawg sound like a son of privilege.

but I somehow get the feeling Kerik isn't put together as tightly as Clinton.

He said he "Saw the planes hit the towers" yet he told Judy he was in the shower?

So, which is it?

A cop with a shaved head. I'll bet he looks REAL studly in Jodphurs and Jack-boots.

We're in deep shit. Ashcroft would try to twist the Law. This fucker will just declare Martial Law.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:31 PM
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18. This is disgusting.
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 09:33 PM by geomon666
Bernard Kerik

Excerpts:
The keynote speaker for this year's Sixth Annual Industry Summit at ISC Expo West was Bernard B. Kerik, CEO, Giuliani-Kerik LLC, New York, NY.

"We lost more people on September 11th than we did at Pearl Harbor. Do you know why? Because of that flag," said Kerik.

Huh?

Kerik explained that he once worked for the Saudi's and that he is married to a Syrian, so he is in a good position to understand the radical Muslim mind.

What a shock.

"They will continue to hate us until all the world becomes Muslim, and we all know that that will never happen."

Can I puke now?
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 09:36 PM
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19. Oh good...
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SeanOhio Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 10:04 PM
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20. I Met Him
I met him at the CNN Town Hall meeting. He was a friendly guy, though he only spouted talking points.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 10:05 PM
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21. OMG that is one scary looking fascist-type creepazoid
Jeebers cripes in heaven.

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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 10:18 PM
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23. A crook and an idiot, he's been kissing the Bushes' * for the past
few years. Bush sent him to Iraq to straighten out the mess over there he even campaigned for W.
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:19 AM
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24. Entry in Wikipedia
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:32 AM
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25. Ridge looked like he came right out of WWII Germany.
n/t
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IStriker Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:45 PM
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37. Say anything terrible you want about this guy; he beats the crap out of
Ridge, my former Repuke governor!
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:53 AM
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27. Looks like Major Dad
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 05:55 AM by kiki
has a younger, more psychotic brother.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:42 AM
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28. Actually...
He looks more like Sargent Slaughter.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:49 PM
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34. LOL now that's a name I haven't heard in many, many years...
He's probably enjoy the comparison

RTP
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 09:00 PM
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36. AT-TEN-HUT!
Ready to make this country a fascist place.

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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:08 AM
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31. well he clearly has an education level that * is comfortable with
GED--just heard on TV
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:12 AM
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32. You mean he HAS a GED? Or just heard about them on TV?
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 10:13 AM by JHB
* would be comfortable with either one :evilgrin:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 08:16 PM
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35. He helped Giuiani screw th NYPD after they got him elected!
Worst contract negotiations ever for the NYPD. The police force was shocked at how quickly Rudy turnrd on them. But you know, he still kept broad support with the NYPD, beause he wasn't a "politician" LOL Ha ha ha. I asked my brother, after screwing you all over, you still don't think Rudy's a pol??
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 10:45 PM
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38. A-HOOH----------------WAAAAHHH n/t
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:01 PM
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39. He looks like Ernst Rohm
he better hope der fuhrer doesnt turn on him too.
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