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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:50 AM
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States rights for red states only
Now that pot has become a states rights issue, the Supreme court has a delemma.

So far only blue states are denied their own laws when it comes to initiatives that the people legally elect.

Perhaps they may officialy rule that some states are more equal than others.



.............





Songs I wrote about pot..

to the tune - A few of my favorite things

Pot makes you choke like a goat on galoshes
Cost of the smoke could buy boats for your bosses
Go for a drive around paranoid town.
These are the highs that will make you feel down.

When your lungs ache
and you eat cake
for a day, or two

Then you will know how pot improves your life
Like when you have the flu.

da dea da dea da dea da dea da dea da
da dea da dea da dea da dea da dea da
da dea da dea da dea da dea da dea
da dea da dea makes you forget the words

When the cops come
for your freedom
and you're thrown in jail

Your source for more pot will be better by far
as you grow old and pale.


..................
If Marly were alive.



Smokin herb
singin for da people
Rasta mon
sang his redemption song
Da words
same as beneath a steeple
Da road
to freedoms long.

300 years ago
Arabs sold the slaves.
Africa divided
white man reaped da gold.
Ossama is a traitor
a rich man we are told.
How'd he help da people?
They were lied to and sold.



__________________________
Brother against brother
Is what the man counts on
When we are together
All they're power's gone

Love your child and free em
To reap what they can sow
If you want your freedom
Its all in what you know
___________________________


Bob Marley's songs
in Africa.
We knew what
they were sick of.
There were raids
In ol Cape town
Half now die of Aids
buried in da ground.

The Al Queda
think they know the way.
With disease
they plan revenge
If they smoked mariquana
there'd be peace today.
You've got to tell your neighbor
There is a message we must send...


Freedom needs compassion
Dats why we smoke da herb
When freedom is rationed
Your life becomes absurd

We're not the infidel
We're not the enemy
We are just the people
We are you, you are me.
__________________________
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:53 AM
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1. Read up on the Fugitive Slave Laws
Same Sh*t, Different Century, but something to remember when some Neoconfederate starts spewing about "the tyrannical North" or its modern Red/Blue reincarnation.
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:59 AM
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3. Dread Scott
Maybe blue state citizens will be awarded 3/5ths citizenship.
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buckettgirl Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 11:58 AM
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2. legal pot?
That would be the day...
Maybe the world would get along if we all got stoned...
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Dzimbowicz Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:28 PM
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6. I've never known a violent stoner...
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 12:28 PM by Dzimbowicz
Think about legalization...

1. It would give former tobacco farmers something to grow.

2. Something for tobacco companies to sell in lieu of (tobacco) cigarettes.

3. It could be controlled just like liquor and sold at the red dot (if, you don't understand that is, it's a southern term for "the likka sto").

4. It can be taxed. This ought to make politicians happy.

5. There are many other uses for hemp besides intoxication.

Mother nature makes marijuana, man makes alcohol (which is also a poison). Whom do you trust?
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buckettgirl Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:33 PM
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7. my thoughts exactly...
Not only that, drug crime would be drastically lowered, and look at all the money that the police would save by not having drug squads. The taxes alone would more than make up for it...

I had another thought too... Random drug testing. I am going to be a nurse, that means no weed for me anymore (not that I smoked much to begin with...). Suppose someday I take a trip to a country where pot is legal... I smoke some. I come back to my job and they drug test me, find it in my system, and make me go to a clinic or whatever.... even though I did it where it was legal. How can it be illegal to have it in your system if you smoked it on vacation?
But issues like that would be resolved too.

mother nature knows best :)
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Dzimbowicz Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:11 PM
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10. Since you are in the medical profession...
Just how long does it stay in your system?
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:11 PM
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9. Agree with all points
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 01:11 PM by SOS
but cannabis is not a poison. The body identifies the THC molecule as a fat molecule and therefore stores it as food in the liver. That's why pot shows up for 30 days in a blood test.
Poisons, such as nicotine and alcohol are identified by the body as poison and are quickly filtered out. Thus the need for constant re-administration.
It also explains why cannabis is not physically addictive, while alcohol and nicotine are.

Edit: On second reading, I see you didn't intend to say cannabis was a poison, but rather than delete my post, I thought it was worth noting the poison aspect.


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Dzimbowicz Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:14 PM
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11. Thanks
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 01:16 PM by Dzimbowicz
you answered a question I just asked someone else on this post. I had not read down far enough to see your post.

I can now see how one could think I was refering to cannabis as a poison.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:02 PM
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4. don't forget "death with dignity"
Ashcroft tried several times to overturn our state law on assisted suicide. Then there is the whole issue of tort reform which seeks find the lowest common denominator for lawsuit limits and make sure that all states have limits so low that nobody will file any lawsuits anywhere.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:04 PM
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5. And energy policy when they want to pollute California
Just read this in my LA Times:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-lng3dec03,0,6500996.story?coll=la-home-nation

Congress Fuels Fire Between FERC, States

By Richard Simon, Times Staff Writer


WASHINGTON — State officials from California to Rhode Island are fuming over a provision, slipped into the massive year-end spending bill expected to clear Congress next week, that says federal regulators should decide where liquefied natural gas terminals are built.

Many lawmakers say they didn't know about the provision when they voted for the voluminous bill last month.






But state regulators know about it — and they don't like it. They said it could make it harder for them to block facilities that could harm the environment or pose safety and security risks.

The provision seems to leave the Republican-controlled Congress leaning against its natural tendency to support states' rights. But the language reflects the determination of President Bush and his congressional allies to increase energy supplies, especially in the face of predicted increases in natural gas prices.

California appears to be the target of the provision. The state has gone to court challenging the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission's claim that it has sole authority to decide whether an LNG facility will be built in Long Beach. The facility would receive imported natural gas that had been cooled to a liquid so that it could be transported by ship rather than pipeline.

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:41 PM
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8. Absolutely
The utter hypocrisy of the repigs' states' rights argument has been apparent almost from the beginning. Oregon's assisted suicide law was passed overwhelmingly TWICE by the voters and the feds won't leave it alone.
States' rights is code for states' abilities to codify discriminatory practices.
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