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NikolaTeslaRocks Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:45 PM
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U.S. OKs Evidence Gained Through Torture
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?
tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20041203/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/guantanamo_det
ainees

12 minutes ago Top Stories - AP

By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Evidence gained by torture can be used by the U.S.
military in deciding whether to imprison a foreigner indefinitely at
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as an enemy combatant, the government says.

Statements produced under torture have been inadmissible in U.S.
courts for about 70 years. But the U.S. military panels reviewing the
detention of 550 foreigners as enemy combatants at the U.S. naval
base in Cuba are allowed to use such evidence, Principal Deputy
Associate Attorney General Brian Boyle acknowledged at a U.S.
District Court hearing Thursday.

Some of the prisoners have filed lawsuits challenging their detention
without charges for up to three years so far. At the hearing, Boyle
urged District Judge Richard J. Leon to throw their cases out.

Attorneys for the prisoners argued that some were held solely on
evidence gained by torture, which they said violated fundamental
fairness and U.S. due process standards. But Boyle argued in a
similar hearing Wednesday that the detainees "have no constitutional
rights enforceable in this court."

Leon asked whether a detention based solely on evidence gathered by
torture would be illegal, because "torture is illegal. We all know
that."

Boyle replied that if the military's combatant status review
tribunals "determine that evidence of questionable provenance were
reliable, nothing in the due process clause (of the Constitution)
prohibits them from relying on it."

Leon asked whether there were any restrictions on using torture-
induced evidence.

Boyle replied that the United States never would adopt a policy .....

I had to cut some off in order to follow the rules of the forum, sorry .
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:47 PM
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1. Yay! Here's comes the Inquisition.
Soon we'll be burning books in the street and hanging "intellectuals."
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:50 PM
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2. ...so I guess it's also okay to use the results of Nazi "scientific
experiments" conducted during the Reich? Swell.

:grr:
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:52 PM
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3. Good Lord
What, oh what, is wrong with this country.
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pnutchuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 12:55 PM
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4. "What's so bad
about peace, love, and understanding?"
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:01 PM
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5. NOT IN MY NAME
:grr:
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:13 PM
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6. Wow
Just wow.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 01:23 PM
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7. Well, we all knew it was coming, since the Admin had sought
legal excuses for torturing prisoners. But it makes me ashamed of our country.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 02:42 PM
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8. Fixed link here:
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 02:43 PM by Qutzupalotl
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 02:48 PM
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9. kick
:puke:
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60s Chick Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 02:56 PM
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10. A New Low
Just when you thought the Bushies couldn't get any lower! So much for that nonsense about the prison abuse coming from "a few bad apples". The rot starts at the top.
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