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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:04 PM
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How would you handle a situation like this?
Can you file a lawsuit against someone on a web board that follows you around and tells people that they know you but they don't know you and you have proof that they have never met you.

Is there a stalking law that you can file against a person that follows someone around the Internet and admits that they are following you via an email sent to one of your personal friends?

If someone keeps spreading false rumors about you can you file charges against the person and the small circle of friends that are helping do it? If the person keeps it up for years and you have never met or spoken to her would you say that she and her small group of friends need psychological help?

Do normal people go through times in their life that are very difficult to handle with deaths in the family and financial loses. Let's say going from being wealthy to being broke and trying to adjust to the lifestyle that they have never led. Would you say that would take some time to adjust to?

When there are two sides to a story but one person is allowed to give their side of the story constantly but their side is a complete lie because you don't know them. How would you handle that?

The story which it is a story keeps getting embellished to a point that you need to do something to prove that she is not telling the truth and it's a game that she is playing for attention.

What would you do about a person that keeps spreading false rumors and lies?

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:15 PM
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1. No, but you need to come up with examples of it
and fink him out to his ISP. Most internet providers take things like cyberstalking very seriously.

Deluge them with copies of this crap and provide links to the message boards in question. Your case will be weakened somewhat if you've lashed out at this idiot on the boards, but you can still get them to take action.

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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:23 PM
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2. I have tons of proof
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 10:28 PM by GingerSnaps
She leaves messages on various web boards admitting stalking me and saying that she knows me. I also have the emails that she has sent to other people about me. I don't know her and I am to the point that I just want her to stop and leave people alone.

I never lashed out at anyone in my life and it's to the point that I have to do something now so that it doesn't happen to anyone else.

I see evidence of the same thing happening to someone else and I don't know the other person but I feel for them because it won't stop after it gets started and it will only get worse.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:25 PM
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3. Don't know about the law suit part.....
you can get them to have a hard time being on the net.If someone threatens you with harm you can get them dumped off thier isp but unfortunatley they can get on another on.....are the board mods notified ? keep track and back up anything you get,good luck,it is hard but i know people who have had people dumped .
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:46 PM
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6. What I am worried about is
She lives in the same town and she is constantly bad mouthing me to everyone that she comes in contact with.

I don't know any of them and a friend went to one of their meetings one time and took down everything that they said about me. It was very hurtful because I don't know these people at all.

I also have copies of the messages that she and several of her friends keep posting about me on various web boards.

I am now working out what they have done to me and the horrible election that just went on with the crisis center at my College. The therapists told me that what they are doing might have been the reason that I wanted to die the night of the election because it was effecting me deep inside.

I have printed everything that she has left about me over the Internet in the past. I also have emails that she has sent to a good friend of mine and I have a witness about the group meeting that she had where she talked about me like she personally knew me.

What type of person would continue this kind of thing for years and still keep it up knowing that what she is doing is not right. Maybe she is starting to believe the lies that she makes up about me.

I need it to stop because it's not right. I have never done anything to hurt another person. I joke about allot of things but I would never hurt someone. I tell the truth and I never lie about anyone. :hug:

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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:52 PM
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8. What? She lives in the SAME TOWN as you do?
For real - this is actionable.

If she's committing libel, slander, etc. You can ring her out.

I have one vindictive bone in my body, and I save it for those who are so deserving.

So many people are so insecure that they have to 'affect' others to feel valuable.

IMHO - they are a waste of natural resources.

PM me with details... I'll give you options.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:59 PM
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10. I Thought This Was A Simple Cyberspace Problem
Sounds like you'll suggest the proper remedies. It does seem that action is appropriate.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:36 AM
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25. ding ding ding...
... look into an action for libel, slander, defamation of character.

And/or an injunction to prevent further activity on her part...
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 10:25 AM
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31. I'm a full time student and I have an overload of classes this semester
She made the mistake of contacting someone that I know a few days ago and I have a copy of the email and private message. I have never met this individual in my life before and I guess the court system will work this situation out. The policeman that works part time in my building told me that since she is posting this all over the Internet that it doesn't have anything to do with the web board owners because it's public domain and that is where the legal and police department come into the picture at.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #8
47. Yes it is actionable.
Sue. Sueing bad people is fun.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:38 PM
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4. Contact the Bar Association in your city or state and ask for an attorney
who will give you a non-charge consultation. There are lots of them.
If you find one, take along every speck of evidence you can scare up including email addresses, websites, the whole thing. There are lots of lawyers who will give you half an hour or more just to see if there's a cause of action. Don't let the bastards mess with you! :D
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:10 PM
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34. Thanks
:hug:
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:42 PM
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5. You Sound Pretty Upset -- Worrying About What Other People Think...
or say about you is, in my humble opinion, a waste of time. You know who you are, what you have done, what you are doing and what you intend to do with your life.

It's strange, but the kind of crap you describe indicates that you are doing something right, if someone is taking the time to try to screw you up.

You always have the option of scrapping your screen name and beginning anew.

I'm not sure if you are describing yourself when you ask if a normal person can be wealthy, then fall on hard times and be broke. But, I can tell you that it has happened to me. And, it has happened to many of the most successful persons in history. Thomas Jefferson went bankrupt something like five times. Henry Ford bankrupted two companies before he started Ford Motor. The guy who founded the Macy's department store bankrupted six or eight companies before he got Macy's to fly. Shit, Donald Trump just filed for bankruptcy for the second time for his casino operation in Atlantic City.

Who cares what other people think of you? I sure don't. It's not worth the time and energy to bother with. You know who you are. If you speak the truth, you are golden, you need no other defense.

End of silly advice. Cheers.



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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:58 PM
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9. I had to file bankruptcy and it will screw me up the rest of my life
I am back on my feet and I have student loans that will help me until I am out of College. I received a scholarship for $15,000.00 to use towards my Masters Degree so that I can go in to Teaching.

I want to teach kids in the inner city about the arts so that they can have an area that will take their minds off of being poor. I don't know how to explain it but the best artists can come out of poverty. Schools no longer have art programs because their funds have been cut. If I can give a small glimmer of hope to these kids then it might make our world a better place to live in.

I love people and sometimes things happen in life that changes us. :hug:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:09 PM
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11. Ok, definitely follow all the advice about seeing an attorney...
I assume you know who this person is and can prove that she's lying about you.

DO NOT simply trust whatever an attorney says, they are NOT infallible, nor are they always out for your best interest.

If an attorney tells you something you do not want to hear - MAKE them explain to you in full why they are saying what they are.

There's an awful lot more to this, so I will PM you.

BTW- There's nothing she can say which can TRULY harm you. Sure she can make people dislike you (even if they've never met you), but that is a reflection on them, not you.

I have learned to laugh at such petty little humans, and when necessary - take them for the ride of their life 'till they find Jesus and beg for forgiveness.

I'll be in touch...
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:12 PM
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12. Please See My Later Post Above -- Your Career Sounds Wonderful
I want to respond that this bankruptcy stigma is only what you make of it. There's no reason it will screw you up for the rest of your life, unless you look at it that way.

These damned financial institutions use folks like you and me to make Trillions of dollars. Then they'll spit us out like a peach pit. Please don't be discouraged about that aspect of your post. It really doesn't matter, if you don't let it.

Cheers
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:04 AM
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48. Your rep in a small town is all you got sometimes.
It can be a factor in getting a job, a loan, or a host of other important things. If someone is intentionally damaging your reputation you should take action.

Caring what people think is one thing but letting someone damage your economic and social potential is an act of foolish cowardice.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:49 AM
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49. It's my Reputation that I am concerned about
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 11:11 AM by GingerSnaps
If her and her group keeps tearing me apart with lies and sending people emails/Pm's and bad mouthing me and they keep spreading lies around that are assumptions and embellished stories then they can mess up my career.

Phone calls have been made to both Colleges on several occasions to verify that I am attending College at each School.

What did I do to this lady and her friends that they hold all of this hatred inside of them? Why would they go to a meeting and talk exclusively about someone that they don't know on more than one occasion?

I don't mind if they hate me because that is their prerogative. Spreading false information and telling embellished stories in order to hurt someone is very cruel and can destroy someones career.

Destroying someones reputation is not right. I already owe close to $38,000.00 in student loans. I agree about it being foolish cowards that would do something like this. The damage that she is doing is irreversible. How many more people has she done this to and how many more will there be in the future.

The democrat comes out in me whenever I think about this because I feel sorry for her and her friends. They need psycological help and the insurance industry might not pay for that kind of treatment.

I am right now seeing someone at the Crisis Center and I had to make an emergency apointment with him for tomorrow and I have finals this week and next week. The election has destroyed me inside and now this BS about emails/pm's being sent around the internet to people has put my depression into a larger slump.

I don't know her and her friends. I can't understand why she would hate someone for this length of time that she doesn't know.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:47 PM
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7. Yes- do all of that... and.....
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 10:48 PM by Dr_eldritch
If for some reason you do not get satisfaction, you can always play her game too...

I'll PM you with a way to get them... but first I'd like to see just what you're talking about. Details? Links?

Is this really causing your harm in your life?

Put em' up.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:12 PM
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13. It's happening to another person now
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 11:14 PM by GingerSnaps
I don't know the person who is begging for help but I see the exact thing that happened to me starting up on someone else. That part hurts and I am not going to get involved because I don't know the person. If I do something to stop it on my end maybe they will stop on their end and the other people will not be effected by what they are doing. I can only hope.

Someone in the group registered me at every porn web site on the Internet and a page was created about me. I saved my hard drives from my computers and someone can check them and find out that I have never registered at the websites in my life.

It hurts deep inside because it's a joke to them but it's serious to me. The funny thing about all of this is they should know better because they are older individuals that are between 30 to 60.

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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:20 PM
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14. I Had No Idea What You Were Alluding To -- Definite Attorney Time
And I agree with the above poster that you can get legal help, even if you are short of resources. This is sounding like you can get damages as well. Best of luck.
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Saffy Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:22 PM
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15. Okay, NOW you have somethng concrete!
It would most likely be scoffed at if you attempted to sue this person for libel or slander, given that they're slandering a 'virtual identity' and not YOU. However, if they've registered your name for false memberships (regardless of the content of the site), that is, in fact, a solid foundation for a lawsuit. Identity Theft.

Since you are a student, you should be able to get legal advice and possibly representation through the legal services department at your school. Unless, of course, the person in question is also a student at the same school.

Best of luck, and while I don't generally give a rat's ass what other's say about me, I'd be furious if they attempted to steal my identity.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:47 PM
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17. She hasn't been a student in years
I wanted to teach classes in my field a few days each week and I know that I don't have my Masters Degree yet but when I went to register my name for a website it came back that my name was taken. So I thought that was alright someone else has the same name. I typed my name in on the search engine and someone had registered a website with my name that had something to do with s & m. I kept thinking that it had to be someone else so I checked a little bit further into it. The person had the same name, lived in the same town and was the same age which was very odd. Then I looked at the personal description and it was describing what field that I was in and I almost fell through the floor because I would have never done that kind of thing to anyone.

I kept copies of everything. The therapists at the crisis center at my College told me that the feelings of not wanting to live was coming from what she was doing to me and had done. The election was just a small part of it I just want it to stop and I don't want anyone else going through this any longer.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Reach deep down into the rage and find the will
To crush them.

Teach them very clearly that petty behavior can be harmful.
Your retaliation will not make you petty or "lower you to their level".
It will show them once and for all that childish behavior amongst adults will get them an adult-style spanking.

Can you get angry enough to find that will? To tap that righteous fury?

If not- you will be a victim for the rest of your life.

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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:52 PM
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18. Years ago...
...I was stalked online by some religious wacko who truly believed by sleeping with me he could send me straight, in the name of Jesus of course. :eyes:

Sapph and I ended up looking into online stalking laws, and there are laws which protect us against this. What you need is to take all the proof you have, and contact your local law enforcement agency with that. If they believe you have a case then they will work to find out who this person is and take it from there.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:14 AM
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19. People are sick
Sorry, to hear about the nut-case that you had to deal with. Sick religious idiots like the one that you described are the worse kind of people to deal with :grr:

I asked one of the doormen that works as a police office in my building about the messages that she keeps leaving and he told me to check the Internet laws and if there is a law she can be arrested and taken to court. I just want her and the small group of friends that she has to stop.

I believe that she thinks that she can post anything that she wants because it's on several different privately owned web boards. But the web boards can be pulled up all over the world so that takes the private part out of it. :hug:
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Saffy Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:23 AM
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20. Alert the web-moderators
of those sites you mentioned that are privately run. I'm sure they don't want a potential lawsuit to filter down to their acquiensence. They can look up her isp and the specific location of her personal computer's settings and ban her. It may take some work if she's registered you on many sites, but at least you'll be taking a proactive measure against her and her cohorts.

But seriously, look into legal representation through your college. The initial consultation should be free, and representation will be much more affordable than a private attorney. Also, the suggestion of finding a pro-bono lawyer through your local bar association is a good one, but if you can approach them with information from your previous free consult vis your school, it'll be that much easier for them to determine if this is actually a case.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #20
33. I did that
One of the websites is down right now.

I need to get past this and I don't want to see others hurt. I will check into getting a Lawyer through my College. Thanks for your suggestions. :hug:
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #19
21. Yes!
She can be charged if you do have a good case.

I suggest you google online stalking laws, and take it from there.

The only reason I never pursued anything with the religious wacko that was stalking me was simply because I was in Australia and he was in the USA, and had absolutely no personal information about me. He just made a total pain in the ass of himself and would follow me around chat rooms and stuff. However, he did say some pretty weird stuff over IM's to both myself and Sapph (he blamed her for my sexuality. Said she had seduced me. LOL That is so far from the truth. I bloody well seduced her, but she was/is a tried and true lesbian) that we had saved and stuff. Just wasn't worth the cost for me to pursue.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. It has to be something in our water...sorry
I met this man one time that didn't like my sister because she has blonde hair. He kept saying that she was the fault that I didn't want him and that she was putting ideas into my head to cause me not to like him. He kept going on and on about how blondes were no good and they were the problem and they were sleazy, etc. :silly:

You terrible woman you shouldn't have seduced her and taken her away from him :eyes: :evilgrin:

Can you imagine if that small little man that was harassing the both of you guys wound up in Australia and tried to meet you. He then ends up in a bar in the outback like the one in the first Paul Hogan movie and makes the wrong move on one of the Ladies in that bar LOL

Brings back memories of Prisoner Cell Block H. Is that show still on?

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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. OMG!
What a stupid man! Obviosuly he can't handle rejection too well.

Prisoner Cell Block H! Now you are talking turkey! Unfortunately they don't make Prisoner any longer. They stopped producing it maybe 15 or so years ago now. But it still gets played in reruns every so often.

A couple of years ago they began releasing some of the Prisoner episodes on DVD and video, so I began purchasing them. Every time they release a new box set I get it.

That was one of the campiest, yet great shows of Australian history.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #24
26. How can I get copies of the show?
My Mom and I use to watch it together when I would come home at lunchtime from school. I would only catch a bit of it but my Mom was glued to her realistic soap opera. She would always talk about Bea, Lynn, Gran. I can't remember what some of the other names were but they didn't wear Hollywood makeup and they were interesting.

Did they end the show when the main characters go out of prison?

Do you remember a movie called Puberty Blues? One of my Mom's favorite movie was Tim because it was a good movie and it also showed Australia.:hug:

I am so tired I have to try and sleep today.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:47 AM
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28. I think...
...Amazon.com has some of the special box sets available. Maybe go there and run a search and see what you find.

I don't really wanna spoil the eding of the show for you, in case you do get the box sets, but it didn't end with the prisoners getting out. It ended with a surprise someone getting IN.

I can tell you, Bea was killed off. She was burned up in a riot at Barnhearst after The Freak (Ferguson) managed to get her transferred.

I sure do remember Puberty Blues. I told Sapph about that movie a few years ago and we ended up searching it out on Ebay found a copy and places a bid and won that auction.

If you want some other good movies which show Australia, I suggest you try and get copies of the remake of Oh the Beach, Malcom, Picnic at Hanging Rock, and that is all I can think of for now. But if you have cable, keep an eye out for shows called Kath and Kim, and McLeod's Daughters. Both are made here in Australia. One in Gawler (right near the Barrossa Valley) and the other (Kath and Kim) made right here in Melbourne.

Have a good sleep!
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #28
29. Barrossa Valley
:9 :beer:

Good day mate!
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 10:25 AM
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32. Mmmmmmm!
Some fine wines come out of the valley!

Cheers to ya, cobber! :beer:
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:42 AM
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23. If this person or persons are DUers
As you seem to be implying that they are, you should contact Skinner and give him the information that you say you have. You should also contact the boards that you say these people are posting false stories to, they would easily be able to take care of the issue, especially if you have the proof you say you do.

Posting a cryptic thread like this would probably just inflame the situation, akin to throwing gasoline on the fire, don't you think?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:39 AM
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27. Stop hanging around chat rooms and discussion boards and get out on the
real world and live a real life.

Volunteer at a children's hospital, or in an animal shelter.

Volunteer at a senior housing project in their recreation department, read to some seniors, or take them to a movie, or the library or a park.

Work at a women's crisis center, counseling women with real problems of domestic abuse and mental illness.

Work at a suicide prevention center, or at an AIDS hospice.

Volunteer at your local City Hall, for a counsel person.

Volunteer at the local library, organizing reading events for local children.

Volunteer in the burn ward or cancer ward of a hospital.

Wouldn't any of those things be much more satisfying?
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. Ummm!
Rad, can you please explain how this can help? The OP is the victim here and shouldn't have to change their lifestyle because of that.

You might not think it serious about online stalking, but believe me, it does scare the crap out of you. And this person is in an entirely different situation than I was. The person stalking the OP lives in the same damn town, and is slandering our OP in that town.

Online stalking can truly affect ones life. I told of one story of being stalked online, but I have been stalked more times than I care to remember. One time was very serious. This one person had tracked down my full name and the suburb of Melbourne I was living in. They knew about my past, my previous relationship (before Sapph), a lot of personal shit. This one particular person even threatened to travel to Australia to find me and cause me considerable harm. Stalking isn't a joke, be it online or in person. It is something that needs to taken very seriously. And the kind of advice you are offering isn't going to make the stalking stop.
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Saffy Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #27
36. Truly priceless
So,as you're typing this ode-to-self-help for a victim of identity theft and stalking, telling her she ought to change her lifestyle and stay away from message boards and chat rooms, you are doing what exactly?

Right.

Sadly, self righteousness is not limited to the conservatives.

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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:15 PM
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38. I started this thread for suggestions and not to call anyone out
Self righteousness? Your a psych major then you must know the symptoms of OCD and personality disorders. What would cause one to keep following a person around for years that they don't even know.

Why would they feel compelled to tell the world about what they think is wrong with someone that they don't know?

Some people have problems that they take out on others. If you are taking psych classes then you should be able to recognize a person that must have some type of disorder that requires that person to stalk someone that they don't know and to trash them every chance that they can get.

I try and look for the good in someone and I forgive people for their mistakes in the past. If you don't know someone then how can you possibly have so much animosity towards that person? Why would a person feel compelled to make another persons life a living hell and destroy their career before they even get out of College.

Ask your Professors what type of disorder that someone has that does something like this to a person that they don't know.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:14 PM
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35. The best thing for you to do is contact a Moderator or Administrator
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 04:17 PM by Cuban_Liberal
Posting such hypothetical stuff here borders on calling someone out, which is against the rules. If someone is stalking or harrassing you, contact a Mod or Admin.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 09:31 PM
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37. Can you please point out where I am calling someone out on here?
I did contact the boards that she was posting on and I also am filing a complaint with the police when I get a break from classes next week.

If this was happening here I would contact the mods and send them a packet of everything that has happened. How can it be calling someone out if it isn't happening here?

How would you like someone to send Pm's and emails to people that you know and don't know and then the one's that know you send you a copy of proof to show you what she is doing?

Your a policeman right? What if she had continued everything that she was doing over a number of years and you have everything that she has said and done against you.

I am sure that in your days as a policeman you have arrested a number of people that just can't leave someone else alone and they keep up the same tactics over and over again until that person takes them to court.

This person sent an email to someone that I know and this is not the first time that she has done this. She admitted to logging on to web boards and typing in my name and looking up everything that I post. Do you honestly call that a normal person or could it be someone that she has some type of OCB or some other type of problem?

What if you would see this person following you from web board to web board posting a message right after yours just to let you know that she is watching you and she told you that she was watching you. Would you find that a little bit out of the norm? What if you only wanted her to move on and stop her behavior and you tried to ask her to do this but she kept involving other people would you like that?

What if you wanted to sit down and talk this out and find out why she is doing this to you? Do you think that would be possible? Have you ever had someone prejudge you and carry it on for years and the person or group really didn't know you personally?

If she had the choice to ignore you but instead choose to keep following you around and she sent everyone messages and it was a pretty high number of people on a web board that she has contacting trashing you and she has never met you what would you do?

What if she took it off of the boards and into the places that you are a member of and she is kind of in the same field as you are in. Would you let your career be trashed by a person that doesn't even know you?

What if you have proof that it has gone on far beyond the Internet and now it has been taken so far that you don't know where she will end this whole thing at? Is that normal?

The only way that I can stop her is to file a complaint let the police handle it and take it to a Lawyer. Like I said I do not want to handle it that way but what other choice do I have when the person just won't stop what she is doing.

She needs to find a hobby because I shouldn't be her "hobby".

Have you ever arrested a person that the neighbors just couldn't believe that he/she would do something as horrible as the person did and they just couldn't believe it because they knew that person and they didn't seem the type to do something like they did? In the end they were guilty of what they were doing and the person should have stopped instead of continuing with what she/he was doing?

What I would like to do is set up a meeting with an Attorney and ask them to set up a meeting with her and the people in her group that is doing this. Find out why it keeps happening year after year and try to discuss what issues that she has with me. Try to discuss it like an ADULT and show her everything that I have a hard copy of that she has done in the past. Ask her why she feels like she needs to continue this and try to work something out before the court system gets involved. Once it gets into the court system and it happens to someone else and they file a complaint than it becomes very serious.

BTW Most of the questions asked on web boards are hypothetical questions aren't they? When you say something about someone over the Internet the whole world can read it if they log on to that website.

(What if you found out recently that for a second time that your College has been called several times by a person asking for the Dean and verifying if i was a student at the College. The same thing went on at my other College that I received my Associates Degree at and they kept the notes on the calls that were made to them. It must be coincidental that both Colleges have received the same types of phone calls asking to speak to the Dean and verifying that I am a student. That's my career! )
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:18 AM
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43. Please re-read my sentence #2.
Thank you.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:54 AM
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46. I have contacted every board that I know that it's happening on
Everyone talks to each other on here and I needed some suggestions on what to do. The places and areas that I know that it is happening at on the Internet I took your suggestions and I have contacted every one that I know about. I have never met this person and she has kept this up for years. Do you understand how frightening it is to find out that someone has been following you for several years now and it is as recently as 2 days ago.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:58 PM
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39. it sounds like you have rec'd some good advice here...
and you know what to do in terms of contacting the ISP provider, police and talking to lawyers, etc.
I'm sorry you had to go through this harrassment and it is important to stop them asap, especially since you are concerned about it hurting your career. That said. hopefully this is a haven for you, as you've said it's not hapening here. I'm glad for that.
In the meantime, I agree you should not have to hide or alter your posting behaviour because you are the one being victimized here. That said, I would not go on about this situation or expose any more information on sites where you know she is watching. Only to keep from giving her any satisfaction, because as screwed up as it is, she is playing with your head. Any way in, or clue that she's hurting you is just going to make her happpy.
The phonecalls to your school and collection of info regarding you and your friend is very disturbing and this needs to be shared with lawyers and police. I had someone I didn't know try to do this to me to a smaller extent years ago. I found out later I had dated someone who dumped her 6 months before and she managed to find out enough of me through an aquaintance. Really disturbing stuff. I think you should mention to the lawyer if you see it happening to another person. I would ask the lawyer if you should PM this person as maybe they have evidence of stalking as well. I would ask the lawyer beffore doing this. According to my brother, these stalker types can stop when forced to, but usually do when they have found someone else to harass instead. They need to be bothering somebody, it's just their nature.
At any rate, I hope you take the seps you need to quickly and move forward with your teaching plans and leave the situation behind soon. God luck!
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:21 AM
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40. Your message made a light bulb go off over my head
Has this been going on for years and do I know her from somewhere else besides the blogs. Possibly its dealing with animosity due to prior job competition :dunce: :scared:

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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:49 AM
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41. it's good to know. I had the feeling you had crossed paths once,
and might not have realized it just be careful.
As hard as it is, try to be very calm and matter of factual with the police. if any issues are he said / she said the way you present yourself matters alot. unfortunately the less emotional and more calm, but insistant, you are with them the better. otherwise they start thinking you are making stuff up (becasue if it were her, she would lie-- people lie to cops all the time-- they are wary about this kind of stuff.) the internet stuff may not interest them (try the ISP providers) - stalky behaviour, phone calls, threats or slander, behaviour you feel is threatening should be noted at least in a police report. this person doesn't need to hear about it, but it helps if behaviour persists or gets out of hand. you will have a history and credibility and get the name of an officer or detective to call to follow up with if you need to.
and do it soon!
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:10 AM
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42. I don't think that we have ever crossed paths in the past
Everything will work it's way out in court. I have no idea about how many years this goes back to. What I do know is that she emailed/pm'd someone a couple of days ago. Can you imagine emailing someone out of the blue that you don't know and telling them something about someone else and they don't really know you either. I would question the reason why this person was sending me the message in the first place and then I would also question if she does this kind of thing to more than one person and what the reasoning is behind it. :shrug:
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 04:23 AM
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44. I would change my email address and screen names and move on.
Why waste your time with a lawsuit?
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 05:14 AM
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45. Thanks for the suggestion
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 05:42 AM by GingerSnaps
I won't be changing my birth name in order to prevent her from leaving messages on web blogs about me. The only way to move on is to make sure that she has moved on and take out an oder for her to stop what she is doing along with the rest of her group of friends. Enough is enough.

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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:40 AM
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50. Your're right, I don't know much about it.
Why would you give out your birth name online? I suppose it's too late to do anything about it.

I feel bad for you that you got yourself a stalker. Good luck in taking care of it.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:01 PM
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51. Many of us do when we join websites
People never learn until it's too late do they? I use to put my first name in my messages and the last name was very easy to figure out because someone created a thread that asked people if they were related to someone famous and like a fool I answered it.

Also, when you send anyone a return email your name that you registered your Internet service under puts your name on the top of the message unless you edit it and delete everything. Just a tip so that you will know the next time that you send an email out you should edit your name before hand.

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:36 PM
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52. If you are being harassed by another member
please let the moderators or administrators know so they can deal with the problem.

I am locking this thread.
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