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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:50 AM
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Fallujans to citizen processing centers, to receive badges they must wear
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 10:59 AM by G_j
http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/12/05/returning_fallujans_will_face_clampdown/

Returning Fallujans will face clampdown
By Anne Barnard, Globe Staff | December 5, 2004

FALLUJAH, Iraq -- The US military is drawing up plans to keep insurgents from regaining control of this battle-scarred city, but returning residents may find that the measures make Fallujah look more like a police state than the democracy they have been promised.

Under the plans, troops would funnel Fallujans to so-called citizen processing centers on the outskirts of the city to compile a database of their identities through DNA testing and retina scans. Residents would receive badges displaying their home addresses that they must wear at all times. Buses would ferry them into the city, where cars, the deadliest tool of suicide bombers, would be banned.

Marine commanders working in unheated, war-damaged downtown buildings are hammering out the details of their paradoxical task: Bring back the 300,000 residents in

time for January elections without letting in insurgents, even though many Fallujans were among the fighters who ruled the city until the US assault drove them out in November, and many others cooperated with fighters out of conviction or fear.

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:52 AM
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1. Why don't they just tatoo them with a number on their forearms?
seems to me it would be much cheaper? >sarcasim off.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:55 AM
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3. shades of Hitlers ghettos
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boi1946 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:55 AM
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2. Doesn't sound like Fallujah
sounds like CONCENTRATION CAMP to me.
Just how far can we go???
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:21 AM
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7. as far as they want it seems:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/12/05/aid_cuts_threatened_by_us_over_tribunal?mode=PF

Aid cuts threatened by US over tribunal
Millions at stake for foreign allies
By Joe Lauria and Farah Stockman, Globe Correspondent And Globe Staff | December 5, 2004

UNITED NATIONS -- The US government is quietly threatening to withhold hundreds of millions of dollars of foreign aid aimed at combating terrorism, resolving conflicts, and building democracy unless countries agree to shield Americans from prosecution at the UN permanent war crimes tribunal.

An amendment to the 3,000-page budget bill before the House of Representatives would punish countries, even close allies in the war on terrorism, that have joined the International Criminal Court and have declined to promise they would not send American citizens to the court without US permission.

Since 2002, the US government has withheld military aid from countries that refused to sign such a bilateral agreement. But the new amendment in this year's budget bill goes a step further, revoking other nonmilitary assistance to governments. The amendment targets an economic support fund designed to foster democracy and human rights around the world, as well as promote the rule of law in Muslim countries to bolster counterterrorism efforts.

Jordan would be hit hardest. It stands to lose $250 million in a two-year old program to foster pluralism and secular education, potentially undermining the Bush administration's declared goal of spreading democracy in the Mideast.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:24 AM
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8. since we're broke,
this "aid" is iffy at best. If the countries look past the end of their noses, and realize that middle- and long-term it's better to cure the disease than control the symptoms, they will proceed with the tribunal.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:43 AM
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9. And where would they get the money for this aid they say they'll withhold?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:51 PM
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10. borrow it
from China? :shrug:
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wug37 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:58 AM
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4. Just goes to prove what I always say
Republicans are Nazis.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 10:59 AM
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5. Something easily visible, I hope
Like a six-pointed star
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 11:09 AM
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6. any bets on how soon this will be happening here? . . .
my guess is within a year of the next "terrorist" attack . . . which, btw, could come at any time, given that the election fraud issue is starting to grow legs . . .
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:38 AM
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13. Irakkk is the testing ground. So they can see how well it works and iron
out the flaws...
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:52 AM
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17. Yep. before they try it stateside. eom
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:21 AM
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11. kick
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:37 AM
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12. Fallujah is the new iraqi ghetto, welcome to Irakkk under bush!
Will the RIGHT Irakkkis get to wear ONE color, and the "wrong" type of Irakkkis wear another.

This is sounding SO familiar to me... think, think... where have I heard of this before????

(thumping head....)
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:39 AM
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14. Are they shaped like stars?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:47 AM
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15. Crescents, maybe?
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Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:51 AM
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16. Woah! This is sooooo Krakow.
Ya think that you ran out of things to make you so angry and horrified that you could vomit. The entire * administration should be tried as war criminals. How dare they do this to our wonderful country's name? How dare they do this in our name? Not a fun way to start my morning. :mad:
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