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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:50 AM
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"God Is With Us": Hitler's Rhetoric and the Lure of "Moral Values"
December 7, 2004

"God Is With Us": Hitler's Rhetoric and the Lure of "Moral Values"

by Maureen Farrell

"God does not make cowardly nations free." -- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

A couple weeks ago, while asserting that the Founding Founders intended for the U.S. government to be infused with Christianity, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said that the Holocaust was able to flourish in Germany because of Europe's secular ways. "Did it turn out that, by reason of the separation of church and state, the Jews were safer in Europe than they were in the United States of America?" Scalia asked a congregation at Manhattan's Shearith Israel synagogue. "I don't think so."

One might expect regular citizens to be ignorant of history, but a Supreme Court Justice? Does he imagine that the phrase "Gott mit Uns" was a German clothier's interpretation of "Got Milk"?

If photographic evidence of the Third Reich's Christian leanings were not enough, Hitler's own speeches and writings prove, at the very least, that he presented many of the same faith-based arguments heard in America today. Religion in the schools? Hitler was for it. Intellectuals who practiced "anti-Christian, smug individualism"? According to Hitler, their days were numbered. Divine Providence's role in shaping Germany's ultimate victory? Who could argue? In other words, there is enough historical evidence to color Scalia deluded. Writing for Free Inquiry, John Patrick Michael Murphy explained:

"Hitler's Germany amalgamated state with church. Soldiers of the vermacht wore belt buckles inscribed with the following: "Gott mit uns" (God is with us). His troops were often sprinkled with holy water by the priests. It was a real Christian country whose citizens were indoctrinated by both state and church and blindly followed all authority figures, political and ecclesiastical.

Hitler, like some of the today's politicians and preachers, politicized "family values." He liked corporeal punishment in home and school. Jesus prayers became mandatory in all schools under his administration. While abortion was illegal in pre-Hitler Germany, he took it to new depths of enforcement, requiring all doctors to report to the government the circumstances of all miscarriages. He openly despised homosexuality and criminalized it." For anyone wanting even more proof, Mein Kampf is chock full of the Fuhrer's musings on God. ("I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord," Hitler wrote). But anti-Semitic rants aside, some of Hitler's religious musings are interchangeable with Mr. Bush's.

Continues: http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/12/far04041.html
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:54 AM
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1. more on Hitler and his pandering to the religious base
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

It will take some more digging to find sources that show Hitler privately scoffed at god.
Though it is shown in the docu-movie "Hitler: The rise of evil"

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 07:56 AM
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2. Isn't Revisionist History FUN?
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 07:56 AM by BiggJawn
Oh COURSE Adolf claimed to be a Christian...

Church (and other) leaders trying to re-write things to present him as some kind of Secularist are really ignoring that admonistion about ignoring the log in their eye, aren't they?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:58 AM
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3. Hey they don't call them Christian Revisionist for nuthin'
I think we ought to offer them all free housing on the Florida coast in Mobile Homes just before hurricaine season. I think they might be just stupid enough to bite.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:07 AM
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4. you're ridiculing christians!
why can't you be more tolerant?

/sarcasm
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:26 AM
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5. Perhaps the question should be:
Why can't Bush* Christians be more tolerant? Bush* stays in office and they suddenly think he has a mandate to install them in 'his' government? There is no mandate in a Democratic republic that would make this possible or legal.

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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:33 AM
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7. tolerance is impossible
when you deal with bible literalists.

their theology is based on a totalitarian deity. they prostrate themselves before a living god and subsume their rational authority to the authority of the literal truth of EVERYTHING in the bible.

is it any wonder that these people DON'T come off as fascists?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 09:29 AM
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6. No no no no! ALL evil people MUST be atheists!!!!!
</sarcasm>
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